REVEALED-THE ILX TOP 75 FILMS OF THE 1950s

I might have voted for "High Society", I can't remember. I love it, anyway.

I would've considered JG if any of the rest of it was in this ballpark:

Johnny: How many men have you forgotten?
Vienna: As many women as you've remembered.
Johnny: Don't go away.
Vienna: I haven't moved.
Johnny: Tell me something nice.
Vienna: Sure, what do you want to hear?
Johnny: Lie to me. Tell me all these years you've waited. Tell me.
Vienna: [without feeling] All those years I've waited.
Johnny: Tell me you'd a-died if I hadn't come back.
Vienna: [without feeling] I woulda died if you hadn't come back.
Johnny: Tell me you still love me like I love you.
Vienna: [without feeling] I still love you like you love me.
Johnny: [bitterly] Thanks. Thanks a lot.

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63. Ivan The Terrible, Part II
Sergei M. Eisenstein & M. Filimonova, 1958
POINTS: 63
VOTES: 2
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“well arguably the second "Ivan" film is a critique of Stalin. the whole film is about the paranoia that comes with power, and the death meted out as a result--it makes Ivan into a simultaneously grotesque and tragic figure. anyway the "Ivan" films are the strangest films you will ever see, I'm confident. no way can they be reduced to either Stalinist paen *or* or Stalinist critique.”

― amateurist

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62. Europa ‘51
Roberto Rossellini, 1952
POINTS: 64
VOTES: 2
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“WIth Rossellini's Flowers of St. Francis, one of the most serious treatments of Christianity by a great filmmaker.”

-Dr. Morbius

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61. Elevator To The Gallows/ Ascenseur pour l'échafaud
Louis Malle, 1958
POINTS: 64
VOTES: 3
#1s: 0

“elevator to the gallows is pretty fun. moreau's performance is great, and i love the guy who plays the german tourist.”

― a spectator bird

“I would like to put in a mention for Louis Malles "Lift To The Scaffold" - less interesting stylistically than the efforts of many of his peers, but an incredibly vivid and evocative atmosphere. “

― Nordicskillz

"I saw this by myself in rep and then had dinner w/my dad & sister afterwards. Our conversation was dominated by me recounting the whole film to them blow by blow. I rarely do that, but the thing was so absorbing and well crafted. I also vividly recall many of the male viewers at the screening gasping at the first sight of the tourist's gullwing Mercedes."

― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain)

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Whoa, slow down, are you going to reveal them all today? I've only seen one of these and would like to read comments.

Wow, Elevator to the Gallows sounds nowhere near as good as Lift to the Scaffold. The UK/US divide hadn't occurred to me before.

(x-post)

...and that'll be it for today. I'll be back w/60-46 tomorrow.

not that it matters, but I think a film that got 64 (2) should be ahead of one that got 64 (3). I think the Village Voice called it the Passion Index.

Grrr. I want them all today!

Anyhoo, glad to see Joan Crawford make an appearance, prolly her only one here. That exchange you quote is indeed eternal, Morbs. But my fave is:

Emma: I'm going to kill you.
Vienna: I know. If I don't kill you first.

It's all in the delivery.

JC didn't like this one, btw: "I should have had my head examined. No excuse for a picture being this bad or for me making it." Roy Newquist, Conversations with Joan Crawford (New York: Berkley Books, 1980), 106.

I was a bit harsh calling High Society a snooze. But "skipping around to the musical numbers" really captures the fate of this film as well as soooo many others. The curse of the genre picture.

I was, for the record, one of the two voting for Ivan, Pt. 2, though I'm sort of feeling guilty about it now considering it was filmed in the '40s, et al.

A lot of the films from 1950 were filmed in the 40s too ;-)

I rescind my ballot.

(Figured it wouldn't be a film poll results thread without me saying that.)

Yeah I would've voted for Ivan the Terrible but felt schizy about including it as a 1950s film.

"Asphalt Jungle" and "Lola Montes" both way too low, I'd say. I don't mind the sentimental stuff in "Asphalt Jungle" - you'll find it in every other Cagney or Robinson flick, I took it as gangster movie convention (though not noir convention, I admit.) Though to be honest I'm not even 100% certain on which parts we're talking about - not the ending, I hope? Or the speech by the police inspector? Cuz that's my all-time fave example of a director using code restrictions to his advantage.

"Lola Montes" could be seen as a bit...overripe, in a way, but I think it's a masterpiece of sorts.

I don't necessairly skip to the songs in "High Society" but I'll admit I watch it more like an old-skool TV special than a movie per se.

Very curious about that Eisenstein!

"Lift To The Scaffold" probably the most archetypal noir not made in the USA? I don't like all of it cos I can't stand Jeanne Moureau, but it is pretty impressively dark and feverish. Love the scene with the german tourists.

xp: Yes, the horsey face-licking included! Cagney-Robinson sentiment was pulpy; a lot of Huston's in AJ is artsy-fartsy.

I rescind my ballot.

I accuse my parents.

O no! Now the big break.

Don't remember anything about Othello; do remember "Yes, you're next/You're so next" from "Rabbit of Seville."

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60. Smiles of A Summer Night
Ingmar Bergman, 1955
POINTS: 65
VOTES: 3
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“Smiles of a Summer Night is one of the best sex comedies.”

― Dr Morbius

“I don't get the "humorlessness" complaint either. While not a laff riot, Smiles of A Summer Night is a great Lubitsch-style comedy.”

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn

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59. Le Amiche/The Girlfriends
Michelangelo Antonioni, 1955
POINTS: 67
VOTES: 2
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“A female spin on "I Vitelloni" (or better still, Sex and the City relocated to 50s Turin), Le Amiche is one of those movies that probably would be better regarded if it had been made by someone else. Not quite addressing the darker impulses that would fuel his most famous work (although he was getting there—remember, Il Grido has just 3 years away, and closer thematically to this film than you would think), the film is a terrifically bittersweet melodrama, easily the equal (or the better) to anything else the genre had to offer at the time.”

― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain)

blaming Alfred for low Smiles position

word. thx for this.

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58. Imitation of Life
Douglas Sirk, 1959
POINTS: 67
VOTES: 2
#1s: 1

COMMENTS:

“My point is that there is no way audiences could mistake "Imitation of Life" for anything but a film about race (among other things). The current film studies cant about Sirk being subversive has never convinced me. His best films are sincere, beautifully-crafted liberal melodramas. If I knew how to italicize "liberal" I would. And I'm not using it as an epithet.”

― Amateurist

“As perfect a capitalist product as has ever been created in the USA, delivering contradictory pleasures sometimes within a single shot. Classical Hollywood never topped it.”

― Kevin John Bozelka

“wow, that moment when Susan Kohner sassily talks all Butterfly McQueen to Lana Turner in Imitation really rules. But God, any scenes w/ John Gavin or Sandra Dee...”

― Dr Morbius

“last time i watched imitation of life i had like three glasses of whiskey and could barely see the screen at the end through the TEARZ :(“

― impudent harlot

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57. Roman Holiday
William Wyler, 1953
POINTS: 68
VOTES: 2
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“I don't really get Audrey Hepburn either and I've seen lots of her films, but she is super-charming in Roman Holiday. it's the only movie I've really liked her in.”

― horseshoe

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ick

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56. Diabolique
Henri-Georges Clouzot, 1955
POINTS: 68
VOTES: 3
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“do it, paul meurisse. just fucking do it, you bad-ass.”

― poortheatre

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lol "dry yr palms"

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55. Pickup On South Street
Samuel Fuller, 1953
POINTS: 70
VOTES: 4
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“only seen pickup on south street but he [Richard Widmark] was pretty amazing in that ... RIP”

― n/a

“I've seen Pickup on South Street a few times, a few weeks ago most recently, one of those films who's charms grow on you, and you like it more the more you think about it. I was underwhelmed the first time I saw it, perhaps expecting more intensity after seeing the Naked Kiss and Shock Corridor. The scene where the spy beats the girl is still one of the more brutal things on film...”

― Dan Selzer

“Poor Thelma Ritter.”

― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain)

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54. Invasion of The Body Snatchers
Don Siegel, 1956
POINTS: 71
VOTES: 3
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

"There's a reason the original keeps getting remade every ten years, with endlessly compelling results no matter how trashy (the latest) orbrilliant (the '70s one): This is our most potent-ever allegory of soulless conformism, might-makes-right complacency, and defensive contentment fending off the genuine pursuit of happiness. Communists and anti-communists, corporate men and drug heads--everyone should take a second look at this and make sure they aren't identifying with the wrong side. I still meet pod people in real life, and still worry I'm becoming one."

― Pete Scholtes

Invasion of the Body Snatchers

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Be back in a bit. Hunting for comments.

3 out of 15? what do you ppl like?

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53. Un Chant D’Amour
Jean Genet, 1950
POINTS: 72
VOTES: 2
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“Tosses the bouquet and swings the dick with the best of them.”

― Dr Morbius

“Are any even as satisfying as gay movies of porny qualities? I mean, sure, there's Un Chant d'amour and Pink Narcissus, but what else?”

― Eric H.

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52. Some Like It Hot
Billy Wilder, 1959
POINTS: 72
VOTES: 5
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

Some Like It Hot: Classic, Dud or Something Inbetween?

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51. The African Queen
John Huston, 1951
POINTS: 73
VOTES: 3
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

"Romancing the Stone was an acknowledgement of what Raiders of the Lost Ark was missing: a credible or compelling romantic relationship at its center. Compared to Raiders, this adventure of whites in Africa pitting missionary and entrepreneur against Nazis seems mild as action and questionable as history, but somehow far more richly entertaining just by being a love story that gets Katherine Hepburn in wet clothes."

― Pete Scholtes

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I kinda thought Some Like It Hot wd be the only pure comedy on the list, just bcz of disposable comedy-adventures like The African Queen.

and see Eric, you are not the anti-barometer re Genet erotica or Rossellini.

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50. Shane
George Stevens, 1953
POINTS: 75
VOTES: 3
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“Jack Palance is so fucking awesome in Shane.”

― Alex in SF

“I was just now explaining Shane to someone who only knew him for City Slickers.”

― Ned Raggett

“Yeah, "Pick up the gun" is my favourite Palance quote too (anyone see Bill Hicks' "Revelations" when he compares that moment in Shane to the U.S. arming little nations, then attacking them because "See! He had a gun!"?)”

― shorty

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a western for ppl who don't like westerns.

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49. Plan 9 From Outer Space
Edward D. Wood Jr., 1959
POINTS: 78
VOTES: 3
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

ALL OF YOU ON EARTH ARE IDIOTS!

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xpost OK, this list is starting to get really bad.

How is Imitation of Life THAT low?!

+ I think Un Chant D’Amour was something like #2 on my list.

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48. Rebel Without A Cause
Nicholas Ray, 1955
POINTS: 78
VOTES: 5
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“belle and sebastien are sal mineo in rebel w/o a cause”

― Fritz Wollner From If bands were characters from movies

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luv me some Diabolique (damn I shoulda voted in this thing)

Plan 9 < Glen or Glenda?

I was going to vote but never got around to ordering my list, but I specifically excluded Plan 9 because I felt it didn't belogn on the list. Certainly not above Some like it Hot

Everyone's in character and it just works.

Really enjoyed reading this thread...

Still love that Morbs, one of ILX's two foremost anti-gay marriage advocates, is so in love with Father of the Bride.

nothing disconnective there -- I love Paris Is Burning and am still pretty dragphobic.

(also, FoB is pretty ambivalent at best about marriage)

(ie, Vincente Minnelli would've only favored gay marriage to Judy Garland)

Yep, '50s still a dark period in American history.

We were all in tip-top form here.

Tracy has a nightmare in FoB! you should watch it. xp

Kevin thread's late-innings MVP

Kevin was hilarious.

I look for any opportunity to revive my Wilder beef with Morbs.

Oh look, even he likes that movie that got turned into a Steve Martin Short movie.

33. Father of The Bride – Along with Minnelli’s even more frightening The Long, Long Trailer (which I forgot to nominate), this film is the reason why we cannot determine genre by audience reaction alone.

I still can't sit through Shane, On the Beach, Rebel Without a Cause.

Peck is a case study for the effects of exposure to nuclear radiation.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:49 PM

3 Kurosawas in the top 20 seems to me the poll's biggest overreaction. On the whole, these film poll results were ILX's best.

I still can't sit through Rebel Without a Cause.

^not gay

Well, no, I commit homosexual acts.

Wish I'd been posting regularly then. My top 5 would be Sweet Smell of Success, On the Waterfront, The 400 Blows, The Apu Trilogy, and Paths of Glory; after that, Rear Window, Night of the Hunter, The Killing, maybe The Ten Commandments (absurd, I know), and something else--A Face in the Crowd and The Harder They Fall come to mind. Mostly predictable stuff.

I missed the first 20 minutes or so, but watched most of The Browning Version (Asquith, 1951) last night...surprisingly intense! Redgrave was great, and I really wanted to push Crocker-Harris' wife into traffic. Sort of an English Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?

Wish I'd been posting regularly then. My top 5 would be Sweet Smell of Success, On the Waterfront, The 400 Blows, The Apu Trilogy, and Paths of Glory; after that, Rear Window, Night of the Hunter, The Killing, maybe The Ten Commandments (absurd, I know), and something else--A Face in the Crowd and The Harder They Fall come to mind. Mostly predictable stuff.

― clemenza, Wednesday, September 7, 2011 9:48 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post

You didn't vote? I thought you had, but the email records are long gone so I have no proof. I do know you came out for the 60s one (and IIRC posted on the thread too).

I didn't start posting regularly till April 2009, so I missed this by a few months. Depending upon how it was scored, I might have moved Night of the Hunter into first.

A call to re-evaluate Stanley Kramer and On the Beach

http://filmint.nu/?p=5264

(i've never seen more than a few minutes of it btw)

anyone ever seen this novelization?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_Planet#Novelization