Velvet Underground Trainspotting Question

isn't it "cookin"?

yeah I thought there was a "vinyl" after it but that is a record label

thanking u

oops it is "cookinG"

How do you get invited to join Nuns Are On The Seawall? I only managed to download The Psychopath's Rolling Stones before it went invite only.

investigating that -- thevelvetforum.tk would be a good place to haunt. I think the dude who runs that blog posts there.

meanwhile, there's this: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=540
dunno if it's good or not.

looks like the nuns site is back up and running. still sort of scared of it, but an amazing resource!

Just got the Hilltop boot on vinyl. blowing my fucking mind

yeah that thing is one-of-a-kind, the only LOUD outdoor gig of the Velvets that has surfaced so far. really different dynamics and sound when they turned it way up.

yeah, parts of the "what goes on" on that bootleg are mindblowing. if you haven't seen it, i did a sort of sampler of the professor tapes over here: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/838951975/move-right-in-the-velvet-underground-at-the

Ossum scenes

The Velvet Underground in Boston (1967, USA, 33 min.), which Warhol shot during a concert at the Boston Tea Party, features a variety of filmmaking techniques—sudden in-and-out zooms, sweeping panning shots, in-camera edits that create single frame images and bursts of light like paparazzi flash bulbs going off—that mirror the kinesthetic experience of the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, with its strobe lights, whip dancers, colorful slide shows, multi-screen projections, liberal use of amphetamines, and overpowering sound of The Velvet Underground.

http://www.moma.org/visit/calendar/film_screenings/10587

... features a variety of filmmaking techniques that most people try when given a movie/video camera for the first time, ....

movie itself sounds sorta painful, but i wonder if the sound is any good? i guess it'll all be cut up thanks to "in camera edits"...

Friday, November 12, 2010
VELVET UNDERGROUND FILM DISCOVERIES
Two complete screenings, at 8:00 pm & 10:00 pm
Admission: $7.00

Moore College of Art & Design
20th & Race Streets, Philadelphia
(215) 965-4099

Read more: http://theworldsamess.blogspot.com/2010/11/velvet-underground-films-to-screen-in.html#ixzz15OO3KwJr

When will someone find their guest appearance on the Marvin Gaye/Tammi Terrell show?

holy fuck @ this

including one film with color, synchronous sound footage of the band playing live in Boston in 1967

one of only two known films with synchronous sound of the band performing live

also how does that blog code its text so that if you c/p a line you are also c/p'ing "Read more: http://theworldsamess.blogspot.com/2010/11/velvet-underground-films-to-screen-in.html#ixzz15RjU7sGL";? that's clever.

nyt does the same iirc, i guess it is a thing you can do now

it's some java scripting and it's annoying as fuck.

yeah seems like newspapers are doing this autofill thing now. that's the first blog i've seen doing it tho. irritating.

politico.com's been doing that since it started

crazy times. is lou for or against it, do you think?

it has always amazed me that a band who was clearly around filmmakers all the time left behind so little actual footage

would love to see this of course

yeah, there are literally films of dudes eating bananas in the Factory.

hours and hours of a building.

if you look closely though, the VU are playing on top of the empire state building during that movie.

I'm gonna make an art project...Empire State with a soundtrack of Sister Ray or What Goes On seamlessly looping for 8 hours.

hours and hours of a building.

have watched this for about fifteen minutes at the Warhol museum in Pittsburgh...it is almost indescribably beautiful fwiw

crazy times. is lou for or against it, do you think?

think lou has always been pretty pro-javascript but a late career turnaround isn't impossible

im officially obsessed with velvet underground bootlegs. what's the definitive version of the gymnasium show? 'psychedelic sounds from the gymnasium" has booker t after sister ray which is not in the other widely circulated boot

On "The Singles 1966-69" there's a radio spot at the end, at at the end of the radio spot there's a mix of Beginning To See The Light where the drums sound way different. Anyone know where that's from?

Well, bear in mind the current CD has the 'non-closet' mix, so its either

1) From the 'non-closet' mix, originally issued on the first pressings of the UK edition, and all the ones (LP, etc) ever available in Japan
2) The 'closet' mix, issued 'later' in the UK, and that was always issued as the LP version everywhere else.

Back when, I ended up paying plenty for a jap copy, and less than a year later the CD version came out.

Anyway, back to the promo, I'd assume it's from the 'closet' mix.

I thangyew.

closet mix would be correct, imho.

I checked out the two cd version of Live 1969 from my public library and was sort of surprised and stoked over some of the differences between it and my 2lp version of it.
Like "Sweet Bonnie Brown/It's Just Too Much." I couldn't believe there was a VU song I hadn't heard, but I was still glad. I'm also certain that there are different takes of some songs.

Definitely not the closet mix, since that's the CD I have, but maybe it's the non-closet mix? The difference is on the closet mix the drums are panned center and are softer, and on the radio promo they're panned more to the left and at the end during "how does it feel to be loved" there's a much more prominent pounding floor tom sound.

Could the Closet mix on the Peel Slowly And See box be different from yours?

I just realized I still have my old CD from before the box set came out. I just checked and it's definitely not a closet vs. non-closet issue.

I have a CD from the mid '90s pre-peel slowly box, and then I have the box.

unreleased mix alert!

Eh, maybe not. On closer listen I guess it is the closet mix, it's just that the radio promo is less bassy and more distorted and that tom sticks out more?

It's probably Tom Wilson talking over a copy of the album playing with a bit more reverb.

Well, I want a mix of the whole album like that. "How do you feel? You don't really know how you feel."

Like a director's commentary

“Angus MacLise was the Velvet Underground's first drummer. He withdrew when he found out that at a paying job he had to start and stop playing when told to. No one told Angus to stop playing. So the job of a working musician was impossible for Angus, and he taught us all a lesson about purity of spirit.

Angus was a dream percussionist. A dream person.” -- Lou Reed

DREAMWEAPON
The Art and Life of Angus MacLise 1938 – 1979

May 10 - May 29, 2011
Art Exhibition
Open EVERYDAY 11AM-6PM
Boo-Hooray Gallery Chelsea
521 W 23rd Street Sound Installation
Open EVERYDAY 11AM-6PM
Boo-Hooray Gallery Chinatown
Location to-be-announced, Chinatown, NYC

Opening party: Tue, May 10, 2011, 6pm at Boo-Hooray Chelsea
Film Screening at Anthology Film Archives: Thurs, May 12, 2011 at 8pm
Walks and Talks at Chelsea Location: Sat 5/14 at 3pm, Sat 5/21 at 3pm

Exhibition series overview
DREAMWEAPON, The Art and Life of Angus MacLise 1938-1979 is the upcoming exhibit at pop-up / parasite gallery Boo-Hooray and presents the work of the American artist, poet, percussionist, and composer active in New York, San Francisco, Paris, London and Kathmandu in the 1960’s and 1970’s. The exhibition series will include an overview of poetry, artwork, and publications in Chelsea, an audio installation in Chinatown, and a night of film screenings at Anthology Film Archives.

Sound installation overview
Boo-Hooray presents a new sound installation of never before heard music by Angus MacLise and collaborators. The sound installation will be open everyday to the public, from 11AM to 6PM, at the new Boo-Hooray Gallery space. Angus MacLise, a composer/improviser and inventive hand drummer, produced multimedia tape works and concerts of his own music that often included dance, poetry, and experimental films. He composed original scores for films by Ira Cohen, Jack Smith, Ron Rice, Sheldon Rochlin, and Don Snyder. A founding member of the Velvet Underground, he also performed with La Monte Young’s The Theatre of Eternal Music and Daniel Moore’s Floating Lotus Magic Opera Company. The audio installation will play the entire Angus MacLise tape archive including film scores, improvised jams, tape collage works, and drumming with various groups of musicians across a variety of genres. Each day the installation will feature a set of curated programs of MacLise’s music.

Film screening night overview
May 12th, 2011 at 8pm, Anthology Film Archives will host an evening of film and video works by Ira Cohen and Piero Heliczer. At the center of this event is the underground classic, The Invasion of Thunderbolt Pagoda (Dir. Ira Cohen, 1968), showcasing the music of Angus MacLise and the Universal Mutant Repertory Company. The program will also include works by Heliczer starring MacLise, Marty Topp portapak video from the Ira Cohen Jefferson St. loft (1971-72), and the world premiere of a new film, Heavy Canon (Dir. Ira Cohen, 1968/2011), comprised of unseen 16mm footage shot in Cohen’s Mylar Chamber and scored with tapes from the Angus MacLise archive.

DREAMWEAPON is curated by Johan Kugelberg and Will Cameron.

Bump, this starts tonight.

yeah, sadly Ira Cohen just died last week.

detailed descrip of that VU in Boston film from someone at the velvet forum:
The sound quality is like you are outside the venue listening in with alot of background noise, so whatever your expectations you will be disappointed, as this is by far the worst VU audio experience. However if you listen very closely you can focus in on the music through the muddiness and background noise. We are, however, very lucky to have this preserved, as it gives the only live recordings we have of two VU songs: Walk & talk and I heard her call my name.

Waiting for the man is a 40 second section half way through the song, sounding much like it does on the Gymnasium tapes.
Guess I'm falling in love is the end of the song, and lasts for 48 seconds, sounding much like the Gymnasium versions but with enough differences to make it interesting.
Run run run is the end of the song, lasting 2 minutes and 51 seconds. much the same as we are used to, but with particularly good guitar soloing.
There is then 1 minute 47 seconds of tuning.
Heroin is a 2 minute 18 seconds section near the start of the song, no surprises here.
Walk it & talk is from the start of the song and lasts for 2 minutes and 10 seconds. I can make out words that sound like "you better walk it, and talk it" and later "moving too fast.......you want it to last". Needless to say with Cale in the band it is nothing like the later 1970 demo version. If you imagine a hard rock version of that demo, with some heavy organ in parts, and great guitar soloing then cross it with sister ray and foggy notion and you'll be close to what this sounds like. Makes me want to hear the Gymnasium version that Cale has even more. It sounds like one of the best VU songs ever.
I heard her call my name lasts for four and a half minutes, and begins near the very start. It starts off sounding like the sundazed alternative mix version, going into some amazing guitar soloing which goes on for most of the rest of the song.
Venus in furs sounds like most other versions, lasting 1 minute 20 seconds, half way through the song.
Then there is tuning for 30 seconds (Cale preparing his organ)
Sister ray lasts 12 minutes 33 seconds, from the start of the song to the end, and there are some edits by Warhol during the song. The band seems much tighter here than in the Gymnasium version and it sounds more menacing. Great organ, with superb guitar soloing, screeching and feedback. I think without a doubt this is the best version recorded, and its a real shame the sound quality isnt better. Nearer the end it slows right down into a steady beat for about three minutes, then it speeds up very fast to the end of the song.

Thats the audio. Visually of course this is a unique experience and its great to see what they looked like when they were playing live. Despite what has been said about the camera work there are some good shots of the band. Check out the woman dancing at the very end of Sister ray...........If I was gonna dance in public to Sister ray I'd dance exactly like her!

(sounds neat)

Sounds great!

I know this was asked by someone else above, but does anyone know the password for the Nuns On The Sea Wall stuff? I've just found two files that I hadn't unzipped and the blog is currently invite only.

i think it's cookin ? maybe? try that.