― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Reed Moore (diamond), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Reed Moore (diamond), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link
(And I just got the contract ratification bonus check today. Wheeee! And I took some decongestant because I'm getting a sinus infection! Wheeeee!)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link
gaz, you can e-mail me at my new normal ILX e-mail address: oumtransmissions@go.com. I have even written down my password.
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― H (Heruy), Thursday, 28 October 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 28 October 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link
I also saw yesterday that Women's Voices Across Musical Worlds has an article on the subject of this thread by Virginia Danielson, which looked like a really good compact introduction to Oum Kalthoum.
― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Friday, 31 December 2004 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 31 December 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 1 January 2005 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Recommended recordings:
Why is Al Atlal so often the recommended CD? Why that as the only one-song CD they recommend? Why recommend the 5 volume EMI collection of early material? Why bypass the core of her greatest work: the late 30s through the early 60s?
I paid over ten dollars for this issue of Songlines, so I could complain about this?
(Songlines is really lightweight. Despite it's frequent mediocrity, I think The Beat's coverage of the "world music" that it covers, which probably wouldn't include Oum Kalthoum, is better.)
Geez, I think the Oum Kalthoum intro. that appeared in Global Rhythms was better than this (but that's by the same author who wrote that NPR guide mentioned above, and I get the impression that he's spent some time listening to Oum Kalthoum.
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, Songlines is pretty good for reviews. It's the articles that are usually a let-down.
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umm_Kulthum
Jah Wobble? He's worth mentioning in a capsule biography of Umm Kulthum? (Did Natacha Atlas write this?)
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.lorenlarsen.com/joanna/ummbio.htm
I think Mohammed might just be a little better known.
She did not use musical scores, she simply sang a few simple lines over and over altering them as her heart saw fit.
She didn't read scores while performing, but her works were probably all pre-composed. The lines might have generally been fairly simple, but some of the lyrics were considered to be very challenging poetry.
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link
Oum Kalthoum in Iraq, 1932. (That's what the website said anyway.)
― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Oum Kalthoum's villa.
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link
BOOM, the GLASSES.
― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Thanks
― amina marref, Monday, 7 November 2005 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link
"The greatest ever singer in the world"--Rabih Abou Khalil (quoted in Songlines, Jan/Feb 2006).
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtWvmD9A2RA
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 13 August 2006 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 13 August 2006 03:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 13 August 2006 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link
The beginning of "Baid Anak" is now up on youtube. (There are other parts up too. I haven't checked to see if it is a complete concert. The CD copy of this is quite long, and even it, I think, leaves off a portion of the instrumental intro. here, though I haven't listened for a while, so I'm not positive.) This opening passage is one of my favorite Oum Kalthoum performances (and it's from relatively late in her career). Notice how she totally works off the one possibly overzealous audience member who calls out (around 4:26ish) and just takes everything deeper. This is absolute must-see if you are remotely interested in Oum Kalthoum:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl0g6dXIsqQ
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 02:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Performing "Al Atlal" in Paris:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy_24rwXlKA
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 04:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Another "Al Atlal"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLmDUk4g7xg
(This was something she performed very heavily in her international touring at one point in the 60s. Not like I was there, alas.)
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link
This is pretty amazing (one-hand oud solo version of "Inta Omri"):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRvcIwKL2fI
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 12:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Interesting. This Kuwaiti audience behaves more like a western audience than maybe any other audience I've seen/heard in an Oum Kalthoum live recording.
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link
another victim of ilx2 thread title truncation
― Lingbert, Monday, 12 November 2007 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes, it's sad. What is it with people reviving my old threads today? (Not complaining, it's just weird.)
― Rockist Scientist, Monday, 12 November 2007 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link
If only ILX could do Arabic script - then we would only need one version of her name.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Monday, 12 November 2007 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Hey Rockist Scientist or someone, can you date/rate these two new eMusic acquisitions....?
http://www.emusic.com/album/Oum-Kalthoum-Oz-Kourini-MP3-Download/11174931.html
http://www.emusic.com/album/Oum-Kalthoum-Oud-Kourini-MP3-Download/11174968.html
― Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link
or daterape
I think I have a copy of this first one, but I will have to check and get back to you once I'm at home.
― _Rockist__Scientist_, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link
These are good:
http://www.emusic.com/album/Oum-Kalthoum-Oum-Kalsoum-Arabian-Master-MP3-Download/10978902.html
― _Rockist__Scientist_, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm checking out Ozkourini now. I think I picked this up in one of the last batches of Oum Kalthoum CDs I bought, which I haven't listened to all that much. This didn't really stand out for me, but sometimes it takes me a while to get into particular recordings by the subject of this thread. There are some fine solo violin passages so far.
There was just a big "ALLAH!" from the audience which I didn't see coming, which means I'm not quite clicking with it. Usually when I really click with one of these performances, I know when the audience is about to flip out.
It's very dark and brooding (presumably, romantically), even by the standards of her repertoire.
― _Rockist__Scientist_, Thursday, 13 March 2008 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link
The pace is finally picking up somewhat, but I'd have to say this is not something I'd recommend to someone who hasn't heard a bunch of her other music already.
― _Rockist__Scientist_, Thursday, 13 March 2008 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link