What club should I adopt as my favorite in the Premier League this year?

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what teams have the least evil ownership?

iatee, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, Sunderland and Middlesborough are amongst the grimmest, most mocked places in England and I cannot root against either, really and there was a time when Sunderland entertained me a good deal (Kevin Phillips era).

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

As a neutral on this one (as my team have been excluded), I'd say go for Spurs. Failing that, try Everton.

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Out of curiosity, why Arsenal?

'Cause they have so few English players?

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

ha if real are the yankees (big if), than barca are the red sox, which doesnt make em much better

max, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway i say go "red bulls"

max, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm a Red Sox fan.

Political baggage seems to be half the fun of Euro football IMO. It's so foreign to the American sports experience.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Will be a Portland Timbers supporter next season.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Villa or Everton

is breads of india still tite (admrl), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'd go with that. Or Spurs.

ailsa, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

No, not Spurs

is breads of india still tite (admrl), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm really leaning towards Villa

is breads of india still tite (admrl), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

my only exposure to SOME of these clubs is playing Fifa soccer games on the Xbox. though I've seen Blackburn, Chelesea, Man City, Man U all play before....

San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Everton have good US links, as someone posted above. They play good stuff, under a good manager, they bring through youth and get bargains in. Not too many of their players seem to be dicks. They've got history. They've got a hell of a derby.

Go with Everton.

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

You also have to choose whom to hate.

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, the hating is everything. (Chelsea).

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Spurs would win that poll as well.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Would they?

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

We did it once iirc, Man Utd won in a walk.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

have any of you killed a man with your barehands at a soccer match, or have you avoided the Italian leagues....

San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

(or I guess the real question is, do you often get into ruckuses over soccer matches)

San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I once maimed a small child for whirling his rattle too frequently, but nothing serious, no

RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been to see Roma a couple of times. No killing was done.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sure ILX has some right nasty geezers, I mean real hard men. When it kicks off you can be sure they're posting proper hard zings, innit?

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

iirc ronan murdered someone, with a knife

max, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, the hating is everything. (Chelsea).

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Spurs would win that poll as well.

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Would they?

― Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), 14 July 2010 17:05 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

Guilty hand raised here if you're looking for someone to blame for this.

Rly, it'd be Chelsea tho I think? Or Liverpool (based on hating post volume)

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

If football posts could kill ronan would have been in solitary this long time since i tihnk.

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't imagine it would be Spurs though I can imagine Chelsea or Man U. I can't imagine my team would fare terribly well, either, but they're not in the Prem right now anyway.

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxpost *gets an image of ILXors standing in Old Trafford angrily IPhone-ing insults to each other while the match is unfolding below them*

San Te, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/12/article-1161501-004D0FDC000004B0-990_468x322.jpg

After a particularly brutal thread derail.

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

The day after Liverpool win the league next year

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_jay/0209brawl.jpg

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Spurs nowhere

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe San Te should base the decision on which club has the best mascot.

Probably would be between Moonchester, Chang The Elephant or the Frogmore The Frog (RIP) for the most bizarre.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/moonchester.jpg

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Paul Robinson. Fat clown.
Zokora. Diver.
Dawson. Shit.
Gareth Bale. Geek.
Aaron Lennon. Runs like a girl.
Jenas. Shit.
Huddlestone. Fat bastard.
Kevin-Prince Boateng. Comedy tattoos.
Malbranque. Ugly and has silly name.
Defoe. Midget.
Berbatov. Looks like a vampire.

― Tom D., 12 December 2007 14:46 (2 years ago)

real talk

Everytime I hit 'submit post' the internet gets dumber (darraghmac), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

everton no question - steady but spirited, interesting blend of players (some of whom are young and exciting) a good history, and a lack of resources that makes them perennial underdogs. comedy big local rival too. also, for someone just getting into british football, a great and useful contrast to some of the... more involved shall we say... narratives of the other clubs.

but consider west ham if you fancy something a little riskier that could turn out pretty silly; maybe wolves too, a grand old club building sensibly.

villa, as people have said, are as similarly stable as everton but will be dull and suffer under a looming thwarted vibe this season imo. newcastle will be just be grim and not nearly as lol as advertised.

under no circumstances enlist in the yid army (tottenham hotspur and their merry band of ilx plonkers).

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_jay/0209brawl.jpg

glory days.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted Liverpool.

Orange You Glad I Didn't Say Mañana? (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Based on the team I think most likely to have the biggest impact w/o being in the top 3, I'm going for City

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, because he said, "...this year."

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

shame on you

r|t|c, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Lost the ability some time ago.

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Since this thread is blowing up today I'll leave this here.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/morrissey/2495474,CST-SPT-morrissey14.article

If soccer ever does take off here, it's going to take off on the strength of the game, not on the fervor of its fan base.

Soccer is a great participatory sport for kids. It's a great way to stay in shape. It's not so great to watch. Unless there's something we've yet to see, that's not going to change for many of us.

Is that OK?

It's going to have to be.

*puke* Just make sure you don't let irrelevant media dinosaurs like this guy influence you, San Te.

Danny Dyer (dan m), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Why is affirmation so important to them?

Ha ha. After many years of arguing w/American soccer haters or critics, I've basically taken the converse approach. "You don't like soccer? Awesome, now go talk to someone over there about how and why you don't like it or whatever You're not going to convince either of us to not like it and we actually have some informed discussion going on and aren't interested in your proposed rule changes and gripes et cetera."

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

You should start watching the SPL, games widely available on justin.tv and iraqgoals every weekend, and the SPL thread could do with some new blood.

ailsa, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

The football's mostly pish, right enough.

ailsa, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Who should he support though, Aberdeen?

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, why not. They can't do any worse than last year. We've got Celtic, Rangers, Hamilton and Hibs covered, so take yer pick from Hearts, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, St Johnstone, St Mirren, Kilmarnock (not advised), Inverness Caley Thistle (even less advised) or Motherwell.

ailsa, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

(I just like saying "sheep shaggers" in my comedically woeful Scots accent)

I have a friend who's a Hearts fan. He's kind of a gloomy dude, though.

Grand amiral de la marine des licornes (Michael White), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

san te, good question. i was in this boat a year or two ago. i decided to let a season play out and see who i fell for. and i fell for...none of them. i stayed neutral.

i've ended up liking the way arsenal play, the way everton are run, specific managers (hodgson, moyes, o'neill, zola) and specific players (arshavin, fellaini, nasri, ireland, dempsey, etc) but nothing's connected at that ~visceral~ level. yet. i still think if i saw a game in england, or had a loved one devoted to a team, that that might change my pov.

but it's been fun, being neutral. i've never done it before. this way i get to laugh at liverpool and half-hate chelsea and roll my eyes at tottenham without any of it mattering too much.

all that said, i voted Everton.

156, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link


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