MIA

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and food too i guess

― max, Monday, July 12, 2010 8:15 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol at the Wiki entry, sorry.

not to get all 'in my world of young ppl' but c'mon dude. she may not be lady gaga but she's pretty famous/popular.

― some dude, Monday, July 12, 2010 2:37 PM (6 hours ago) Bookm

??? im not sure what was weird abt that phrase! it basically just means 'anecdotal ppl in their 20s i know'??

perp's review seemed a bit weird but so does dorian's "come on this is so much MEATIER than like a christina aguilera record!!!" & nicely inconsistent of lex to not observe that 1

not to get all 'in my world of young ppl' but c'mon dude. she may not be lady gaga but she's pretty famous/popular.

A handful of the college kids at the paper -- excluding the radio station guys, of course -- know her because of "Paper Planes"; she's certainly not argued about like Gaga is.

m perpetua's constant bagging on rap for being soooo traditionalist is really eye rolly to me but i dont dislike his taste any more than 90% of ilm so

A handful of the college kids at the paper -- excluding the radio station guys, of course -- know her because of "Paper Planes"; she's certainly not argued about like Gaga is.

― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, July 12, 2010 9:54 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thats .... what somedude was saying? actually a lot of folks know MIA regardless of paper planes if u know anyone in college basically

I guess we're arguing about what constitutes "popularity," which becomes complicated when Gaga enters the conversation. What I meant by my experience: Gaga's clothes, casual remarks, and longform TV interviews are discussed as much if not more than her songs. M.I.A. meanwhile is like Jason Derulo ("Oh, she did that song a couple of years ago from the Seth Rogen movie").

No one in the group I see cares about terrorism, Diplo, Tamil Tigers, truffles, etc.

It's like Madonna vs. Nu Shooz in 1986.

thats true w/ a general audience -- thats exactly what somedude was saying, shes certainly not gaga level -- but MIA def has a much bigger cult audience than effin nu shooz

OK -- fair enough

you will see perpetua change

deej, you've slightly misrepresented my point - I'm not saying that MIA is automatically "meatier" than Christina. Bionic is a very diffuse album in which Christina bends her style and even her voice to fit her producers: there's the MIA track, the Le Tigre track, the Ladytron track, and none have much to do with one another, so Perpetua's format of just listing producers would be more apt there (if still lazy). Whereas MIA is very much at the centre of Maya, so to just talk about Rusko tracks is to ignore all the industrial harshness that they have and other Rusko tracks don't, and to skip over the fact that the sound (combative, claustrophobic, besieged) mirrors the lyrics. Whatever the failings of this album, I think they come straight from MIA - she's not just dialing up hot producers and asking them to make tracks for her. So when I mention Bionic I don't mean ALL mainstream pop albums - records like Blackout or Future Sex/Love Sounds have a unity of sound and purpose which makes them more interesting to write about.

for me the prob with bionic was that it didn't seem like xtina really cared about making another album - the only reason for it to exist is because it's been four years since back to basics and i guess she's not in a position to do a timberlake and just take the foreseeable future off. so it's a very thought-through, box-ticking album, like an idea of what a credible pop album should be, that unfortunately has no real inspiration.

nonetheless i'm pretty sure that xtina's "monday morning" is better than anything on maya.

oh i'm listening to maya now. it's a bit boring, isn't it? even she sounds bored. and like she's making up lyrics on the spot.

there's a remix of "teqkilla" with nicki minaj. i'm a bit confused as to why minaj chose that song, of all songs, to jump on :/

lol @ how this album makes "born free" sound genuinely exciting because SOMETHING ACTUALLY HAPPENS

actually i think bionic is a decent comparison points and its flaws similar to maya's - neither m.i.a. nor xtina sound particularly into the music or all that inspired; both albums are somehow overthought and underdone, sort of like the main driving thought behind each was "if i was inspired, this is the kind of album i'd make" - they're trying to force creativity in both cases but coming up against a brick wall. i feel like i'm listening to actual writer's block. maya is a passable imitation of claustrophobia and alienation but it's not very effective, it feels like maya's imitating that cuz changing her direction often fools people into thinking you're making a big artistic statement.

Whatever the failings of this album, I think they come straight from MIA - she's not just dialing up hot producers and asking them to make tracks for her.

yeah, i think the failings of bionic come straight from xtina too tho.

ok this album is ending, hurrah, i don't have to think about it any more or listen to it again. feel like i've done my duty there.

LOL

hey, mia (trapez, loads others i expect) is djing at my local discotheque on saturday. anyone know what to expect from her?
― nebbesh (nebbesh), Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:00 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no, but you you should go and report back to this thread! m.i.a tracks = niceness.
― tricky disco (disco stu), Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:57 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you mean mia from germany?
― k (blue), Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:25 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, mia from germany, did she do that 'tied to the 80s' track, i used to dance in my bedroom to that. i wasn't sure how deep/minimal/thoughtful she'd play it, i want to bring friends with and don't want them all to stare at me balefully.
she must be doing some dates in london too i expect.

― nebbesh (nebbesh), Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:38 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol Lex, I have been tirelessly bumping the REAL M.I.A. thread and you're posting over here!

Dan = King Canute

forks going "shrug" when i called him out on bumping the wrong thread seriously made me more angry than any other ilx post in a good two years

dan as a mod i think you should effect some sort of c/p or locking thing on these threads!

I'm looking forward to hearing this on account of I like the two songs I've heard a lot and the tone of most of the slagging off makes it sound like it just might be right up my alley.

it's streamable via her Myspace page

the middle sags but I love the beginning and the end

"Fluxblog is the very first MP3 Blog. It was founded by me, Matthew Perpetua, in 2002."

BS. Dude missed being the 'first' by at 5 years. Plus, there were regularly updated RealAudio-hosting sites before Winamp/MP3s came out in '97.

Clearly Maya doesn't even merit its own thread, oh how the mighty have fallen.

dan, i think you should copy and paste all posts, from across ilx, about the "wrong" m.i.a. into the thread about the "right" m.i.a.

done and done

I tried to start a Maya thread but the system wouldn't let me. And the mods said I was too early. And now I'm too late. Ain't that always the way?

wait, who said you were too early?

I tried to start a Maya thread but the system wouldn't let me.

waaaaht

I can't remember - it's somewhere on this thread I think. I was getting tired of all the NYT talk and wanted somewhere to discuss the music but someone said there was no point starting an album thread until it was out/leaked, and I could sort of see their point. Then I forgot all about it. I sort of assumed someone else would start one anyway.

On reflection, it was probably the CIA.

Google? The government?

xp my friend wz telling me about how the CIA had developed Facebook and using it to create lengthy psych profiles on people...he's not really someone who would not be reading MIA write-ups in the NYT Magazine...I mean he's kind of a conspiracy theorist...I mean what's up? All wingnuts think alike? Or is there something to it but it keeps getting mangled??

Conspiracy theories circulate - it's not as if MIA made this one up on her lonesome.

kinda half liked "born free" (mostly due to liking "ghost rider"), hated "xxxo" or whatever the next track was called. interest in hearing the whole album is currently pretty low. i mean, there's gotta be someone here who loves it and can explain why, right?

nah

Most of it sounds like she found a copy of Skinny Puppy's VIVISECT VI and started chanting over it, which I find to be awesome.

^really? that DOES sound awesome!

I'll repeat: It's streaming on her Myspace page

yeah my internet access is pretty limited right now for various reasons...

not to get all 'in my world of young ppl' but c'mon dude. she may not be lady gaga but she's pretty famous/popular.

― some dude, Monday, July 12, 2010 2:37 PM (6 hours ago) Bookm

??? im not sure what was weird abt that phrase! it basically just means 'anecdotal ppl in their 20s i know'??

― blap...tremendo (deej), Monday, July 12, 2010 10:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hey i go through the same thing of trying to relate anecdotal IRL experiences to the blogosphere shut-ins on ILM all the time and i sympathize with your own efforts, but the turn of phrase "in my world of young ppl" is just hilarious to me sorry

'in my world of aging drug addicts'

'in my world of staggered deadbeats'

(this is fun)

Most of it sounds like she found a copy of Skinny Puppy's VIVISECT VI and started chanting over it, which I find to be awesome.

okay, sold

be warned though that if you hated "Teqkilla", you will hate most of the album (or conversely maybe the album will make "Teqkilla" make more sense, I dunno)

noz had a bunch of angry tweets about this album like "i heard this album sounded like skinny puppy, THEY LIED TO ME"

Listening to it now via MySpace. It's loud, ugly and stupid. I like the air-gun sample; reminds me of "Stainless Steel Providers" by Revolting Cocks. I think this will almost certainly wind up being my favorite of her albums, but that's saying so, so little.