MIA

so the new Juan Maclean comes in a longbox? pretty retro.

so the new Juan Maclean comes in a longbox? pretty retro wasteful

Link?

HA!

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If they can't the facts right about the single biggest pop star of the last century then why should we care what else they say? Outrage regarding MJ had nothing to do with the quality of the 'early 1990s' records but with the fact that there weren't any court cases re the child abuse up until then. People didn't take any of it too seriously until the Jordy Chandler case in 1993. Up to that point, it had all been Bubbles the chimp, airtanks in the studio and facelifts and hearsay and gossip.

that 4.4 rating and overall h8 is obviously meant for the artist herself, not the album....right?

I dunno. I don't like or not like Maya anymore now than I ever did, but the new album is a heap o' shit.

Even Space?! See, I quite enjoy the chaotic nature of the album but I can see how it can be off-putting to certain ears. Especially those who were expecting her to take the next step in mainstreaming her sound, or who aren't too fond of the lo-fi aesthetic. What I don't get is how can someone appreciate Sleigh Bells, then turn around and say Maya is "too noisy".

*how someone can

XXXO and ...Muscle are as mainstream/pop friendly as Rihanna.

I think Sleigh Bells are too noisy. I know that mixing right into the red is part of their thing, but my ears would be happier if they didn't do that. However, the songs are definitely there in Sleigh Bells' case. The new M.I.A. is largely shapeless and lazy, whereas her earlier albums were tight as a drum. tbh, it comes across to me as her just not caring anymore. And if she can't, I can't either.

In total agreement. XXXO is the most poppy thing she's ever released imo.

that 4.4 rating and overall h8 is obviously meant for the artist herself, not the album....right?

― Soft Sad Tecmo Bowl (Spinspin Sugah), Monday, July 12, 2010 6:53 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

the artist who made the album

and yeah when they're not um sampling funkadelic sleigh bells sound horribly loud

If they can't the facts right about the single biggest pop star of the last century then why should we care what else they say? Outrage regarding MJ had nothing to do with the quality of the 'early 1990s' records but with the fact that there weren't any court cases re the child abuse up until then. People didn't take any of it too seriously until the Jordy Chandler case in 1993. Up to that point, it had all been Bubbles the chimp, airtanks in the studio and facelifts and hearsay and gossip.

― piscesx, Monday, July 12, 2010 1:51 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

why even nitpick details with such a batshit parallel. MJ = MIA and child molestation = inarticulate interview!

"The piece was devastating to her credibility, and her childish response-- putting the author's cell number on Twitter-- only made matters worse."

Really? I got the distinct impression that no one outside of ILX gave a shit and ILX seemed pretty meh about her (basically non-existent) credibility and childish response.

nah there were definitely people outside ILX who take/took her super seriously and were shocked and dismayed, silly as it seems

On second reading, that review is even worse than I thought. For one thing it's lazy - apart from mentioning the theme of The Message he doesn't engage at all with the lyrics and why MIA might have chosen this dense, abrasive sound as a vehicle for them. He just lists producers and grumbles that they're aren't enough tunes, which is what you say about a Christina Aguilera album, not one with this much to get your teeth into. The lines where he actually engages with the music are feeble and colourless - "moments of interesting noise" ffs.

Furthermore, as pointed out by some dude, the idea that MIA has to make up for some major bad behaviour is just ridiculous - you really have to have your head up your arse to think that some simplistic/daft political statements (no more simplistic or daft than those made by Strummer, Marley or PE, by the way) are a big enough deal that she has to atone for them. He quotes Hirschberg's caricature as if it's the consensus view and presents as fact the dubious, condescending assumption that the sound of the record is about her restating her hipster bona fides to make up for marrying a rich dude, constantly acting as if the reader shares his personal animus against MIA.

None of which is to say that you couldn't make a good case for a grade this low - I'd give it about 6 - but it's like he isn't even trying. I'd say the argument was weak but there's really no argument being made here.

Really? I got the distinct impression that no one outside of ILX gave a shit and ILX seemed pretty meh about her (basically non-existent) credibility and childish response.

I thought her childish response was the only rock and roll thing anyone has done in years.

Plus, the idea that M.I.A. has a "public." She has one hit.

it's matthew 'fluxblog' perpetua

Her "public" is on this thread or writing their own M.I.A. reviews.

The reason I'm so pissed off with it is because I actually look forward to Pitchfork reviews of big, divisive artists that spawn endless ILX threads - there's potential for some terrific writing. Compared to the two meaty Vampire Weekend album reviews (by [nabisco] and Mike Powell) this is a waste of time.

so wait, you're saying that something written by someone who made a name for himself by being a vacant musical magpie wrote a worse review than two people who actually analyze the music they come across?

STOP THE PRESSES

Her "public" is on this thread or writing their own M.I.A. reviews.

― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, July 12, 2010 3:34 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not to get all 'in my world of young ppl' but c'mon dude. she may not be lady gaga but she's pretty famous/popular.

the alt report report is funnie mainly for zinging perpetua imo:

Not sure if this reviewer ‘authentically hates M.I.A.’ or if it is a rookie music writeblogger critic trying to make a name for himself in the blogisphere by ’shitting hard’ on this album/M.I.A.’s brand:

Without compelling tunes, the obnoxious public antics, dubious political messages, and thin voice that had grated on her naysayers have become impossible for even dedicated fans to ignore. It’s as if everything that was great about M.I.A. has been stripped from this music, leaving behind only the most alienating aspects of her art and public persona.

Seems obvi. Coulda just posted a picture of some feces and moved on, but I feel like maybe this review is an opportunity to ‘be remembered forever’ maybe.

Well I don't usually read his stuff and I thought Pitchfork would assign an album this significant to a writer worthy of the job. My mistake.

lol @ perpetua hate

"no more simplistic or daft than those made by Strummer, Marley or PE, by the way"

haven't spent v much time listening to Marley, but this is also otm

Hating on Perpetua in 2010 is like still making fun of Martin Lawrence for screaming at people on Ventura Blvd.

(although, Perpetua is still Perpetua doing his Perpetua thing, and Martin Lawrence has cleaned up and cooled out...so, um, carry on!)

^^^wisdom of the ages

i'd no idea who this perpetua guy is, i thought he was just... some guy.

all i remember about him is that he is fat and likes robyn

apologies if i'm wrong about either of those things! i'd hate to spread malicious rumors

about loving that robyn album, i mean

You are right on both articles.

there's a lot of info on his wiki... well, some of the older iterations anyway

it was pretty lol when he threw a pompous hissy fit about the jukebox rating animal collective badly, along the lines of "ANCO ARE SO IMPORTANT HOW DARE YOU CRITICISE THEM" and then he made some comparison to some 80s canon indie that probably wouldn't have passed 6/10 on the jukebox either.

I just realised what this reminds me of: a school report. "Maya is a bright, energetic girl with lots of ideas but she often fails to execute them to the best of her ability. I wonder if she has been distracted by her blossoming relationship with one of her classmates, Benjamin Brewer, and her friendship with a disruptive new arrival, Rusko. While it is good to see her so willing to speak up in class - she certainly is an opinionated young lady! - perhaps she should think a little harder before opening her mouth in future. Then, of course, there is the regrettable incident of Ms Hirschberg's cellphone number, which you will already have discussed with the principal. In conclusion, we hope that this has been a temporary setback and that next semester Maya will get back to the kind of appealing grooves and memorable hooks that we know she is capable of."

As much as I disagree with Perpetua, I feel like his writing is usually at least a little better than this.

i don't feel really strongly about Perp either way, but it's interesting how he's the only former ilx regular of minor renown who really seems to get trashed the way he does besides like Momus

lol dorian

ahaha that basically should be the definitive review of this album dorian

more reviews written in the style of school reports please

i don't really know anything about perp but i've recently started noticing how fucking dull and lame his reviews are

His bubble world consists of bands he thinks are ZOMGFANTASTIC and everything else ranges from bad to terrible, and when someone dare shit on one of his favorites he reacts like a big baby. At least, this is the way it was for many years. But even more, he's prone to be super-duper-hypercritical if an artist is doing something the wrong way, as his idea of what/how they should be doing what they do is always far -superior-.

"i don't feel really strongly about Perp either way, but it's interesting how he's the only former ilx regular of minor renown who really seems to get trashed the way he does besides like Momus"

Didn't Ott used to post here?

haha I was gonna say

pretty sure NSylv posted for a little bit too

man the ott pfork review of this album would have been g.o.a.t.

jf who are some of his zomg bands?