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I think it's just a full-speed OTG controller. I may be wrong, though.

I think the whole "runs OSX" thing should have some giant asterix next to it, as it is obviously some sort of subset of the OS, or a set of APIs or something.

This is intersting: http://www.simmtester.com/page/news/shownews.asp?where=2895625&num=9767

Knowing Apple, it's probably some weird Frankenstein combo of a bunch of chips.

― schwantz (schwantz), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

You interface boffins have seen this, right?

http://honeybrown.ca/Pubs/BumpTop.html

It would be cool to do that stuff on an EYEPHONE.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

i just read somewhere that you WON'T be able to chain hard drives to the appletv directly. you can attach 'em to your computer and stream, but looks like you can't use this as a big harddriveable media hub.

this thing looks shittier and shittier the more i look at it, honestly

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Which is odd because the Airport Extreme hub can daisy chain additional drives.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

you can't use this as a big harddriveable media hub.

Well then the itv would have to have filesharing so you could access those

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

oinktv?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

can i use iTV and SlingBox together to travel through time

― TOMB07 (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i read about some hub that actually does have a torrent client built in

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

$600 for 8gb no thank you.

This the perfect example of a convergence project. Everyone who was hoping for a 100GB iPod is incredibly disappointed. Everyone who (like me) was looking at paying 3-400 bucks for a blackberry/Treo/PPC-6700 that has between 128-256 MB of storage (expandable with overpriced flash cards) is incredibly excited about 4-8GB. (Not excited about Cingular, not at all, but as of right now I am leaning towards switching in the summer.)

I am currently using a Sprint phone, Verizon blackberry and my 2nd gen 20GB ipod (circa 2002) which is a tank. I have been holding off on a new phone/berry in the hopes of something better, and I would definitely switch over to the iPhone for the joy of reducing the device count in my pockets from 3 to 1. That said, as is pretty much ALWAYS the case with apple, it might be worth waiting until the 2nd generation (16GB flash? unlocked GSM? HSDPI?)

― Ash (ashbyman), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Hopefully we'll be on 2nd gen stuff before anything's released to the UK.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

this thing looks shittier and shittier the more i look at it, honestly

yeah that thing is a long way away.

whatever i just use this unit here: http://217.205.137.242/images/Apple/OR2150000019411.jpg

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

that's what i did till i got my current dvd player.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/1/10/6559 criticism/shortcomings with an eye on what comes after model 1.0

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

*cough* http://daringfireball.net/2007/01/iphone_arm *cough*

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 11 January 2007 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link

lol at non-britishes lolling at britishes over ARM

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6250511.stm

― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link

S'on t'other thread.

So, how long before the iPods go touchyfeelyscreeny?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/1/10/6569

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

my boss predicted a samsung arm-based thing. like their arm11

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's an 1136.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

is there any reason i shouldn't buy a 24" imac here in canada before i leave? these things are generally accepted as being totally awesome, right? ed? jon? alan? tom?

― m@p (plosive), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, buy one, but you make get hit for VAT and import duties when you bring it into the UK and I'm not sure if the warranties on desktop machines are international. (They are for laptops)

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

On the other hand, you might be able to claim the tax back using the visitors tax form.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm sending a small amount of stuff over by boat, so i figure i'll just send it over with that. the shipment is fully insured and apparently safe for electronics, plus its (allegedly) duty-free, so it seems like a pretty safe bet.

re: upgrades, RAM (from 1 to 2 gigs) and the video card seem like no-brainers, but everyone's saying the upgrade to 2.33 isn't necessary. that sound about right?

― m@p (plosive), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

How soon do you leave?

Do any of the Britishes still have their Amigas????

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

actually i do have my strongarm acorn under my desk here. i'm not making this up.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

That's disgusting.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i re-installed WinUAE recently, what of it?

my SUpergun Deluxe (huge box to connect actual arcade game PCBs to) is still under my bed at the family home.

― reverto levidensis (blueski), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I have an Amiga A1200 in the house someplace.

― treefell (treefell), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't have an amiga, but can probably make one up from all the bits lying around my desk!

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

jon, i leave in two weeks.

― m@p (plosive), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

If you can get access to a student in the uk, you'll get it cheaper, and get three year warranty as standard, which is free apple care essentially.

duty free shipping sounds a bit dubious, are you sure on that? My american pal imported her mac and had to pay huge duty.

― stet (stet), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you allowed to advertise for access to a student?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

my sister is a student so i'll get the discount here too. might spring for extended applecare as well -- it still works out to be way more cost-effective if i do.

the duty free shipping is courtesy one of those intercontinental shipping companies that specialize in entire house moves. i asked repeatedly about the vat and they assured me it'd be fine.

― m@p (plosive), Thursday, 11 January 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

re: the 24" imac, how important is the video card upgrade? i've got a g.c. at a bricks and mortar apple dealer and would prefer to buy from them, but a model with 256megs video memory is apparently going to take a few weeks to arrive, which is time i don't have. if i'm mostly going to be using it as a media center, does it really matter?

― m@p (plosive), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

it totally doesn't dude.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

unless you're planning on creating and rendering your own 3D graphical entertainments for your amusement, and that's what you mean by media center.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160073232436

― am0n (am0n), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Q: this is not the iphone so take this off before i report you... lol i cant believe you would even try to sell this off as a iphone it says right on the...more
Jan-12-07
A: Thanks- for you the price just increased.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

hahahahaaaaa

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 12 January 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

unless you're planning on creating and rendering your own 3D graphical entertainments for your amusement, and that's what you mean by media center.

Does Coyote Nate play second life???

I guess I should get it.

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Does the educational discount apply to refurbs?

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

it seems not

― roc u like a § (ex machina), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

no.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link

It does support exchange, if the admin turns on IMAP support.
-- Ed
Which non of them ever do...

-- you win again, gravity!

haha, so true. in fact, we had imap on on ours but our Mac person made them turn it off so none of us could use Mail.app to check our mail, he wanted everyone to use sucky Entourage. But he's a faddy gadget freak, I'll bet that port opens up the second he gets an iphone.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

all the demos out there seem to insist on scrolling as the only way to get to both contacts and songs... I hope that's not the case because even though the scrolling seems well implemented and v fast I'd like to be able to jump straight to a contact... can you only operate it w/two hands too??

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

that is, how easy is it to operate one-handed d'you reckon?

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Voice recognition would be handy here, right?

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know if you'll be able to put porn on it w/o 3rd party app support cozen.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 12 January 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, because no websites accessible in mobile safari have porn on them

― mh. (mike h.), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

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