it's so much more
― 156, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 05:35 (thirteen years ago) link
is this somehow supposed to be like a jab at MIA's manufactured backstory?
at any rate, it is caca. D-
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 05:48 (thirteen years ago) link
^ the truth, in a whitechocolatespaceegg
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 05:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Finally someone makes the industry critique on the 4th consolidated album seem piquant and deep by comparison.
― BEAROTAURDED (jjjusten), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Note: I am amazed by this as a thing, but I also spent an hour tonight trying to convince a dude to watch "I accidentally domed your son" so
― BEAROTAURDED (jjjusten), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 06:01 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda has this laurie anderson call/response thing goin on
― Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link
guys stop making me want to listen to a Liz Phair song
― emo WINNER! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
HOLY SHIT
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link
You guys I am linking this here. Dan, you have to listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ7tGcLcwwY
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I love how quickly this is becoming the new Showgirls
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link
IT'S A TRAP, DON'T LISTEN
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
hahahahahahaha
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link
that is so bad
Listening to the thing all morning, I'm still left holding a handful of air. The strummy guitar songs are tuneful and amiable enough. The jokey numbers, though, confuse me – is Phair so deluded about the size of her record sales that she thinks she can play with her public image? But I like her imitation of an airhead.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link
That's an imitation? Sounds like it comes pretty naturally to me.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Matt LeMay revisits his 0.0 review of the 2003 album: http://www.mbvmusic.com/2010/07/07/liz-phairs-2003-self-titled-album-is-still-terrible/26971#more-26971
After my Pitchfork review ran, I received a volley of e-mails pointing me to some interviews Phair gave around the time of Liz Phair’s release. In these interviews, Phair explained that she made a “commercial” record in an effort to be a responsible grown-up, to make a financially successful record, and to support her family. By not liking the record, I was implicitly putting down women of a certain age, women with children, women in general, women in music, and/or women of a certain age in music. If I were Liz Phair’s friend and not a music critic, you could accuse me of not supporting her life choices. But, for better or worse, Liz Phair is an artist. And haphazardly contorting your art to better suit a potentially lucrative fad — whether it’s “teen pop” or “glo-fi” — is not something that we, as critics, should have to make excuses for.It isn’t fair to hate on Liz Phair for not being an indie rock record. But it is fair to call out Liz Phair for being a limp, cynical and half-assed pop record.
It isn’t fair to hate on Liz Phair for not being an indie rock record. But it is fair to call out Liz Phair for being a limp, cynical and half-assed pop record.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
oh god it's bad
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
"Bollywood" makes the Liz Phair s/t album sound like Purple Rain in contrast.
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
It's awesome, as is the album. And her 2003 album that caused all the suicides
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Unfortunately quite a few indie males remain.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I never hated the 2003 album, fwiw. But I've never been a big fan of hers anyway, so it just seemed like a natural progression to me (OH HAI I'M LIZ AND I HOP ON BANDWAGONS). Funstyle is probably the first time in her career where I haven't been able to figure out what she's aiming for.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
forgot about this
Somebody's Miracle was originally modeled after another canonical album, Songs in the Key of Life by Stevie Wonder, though only elements of this exist in the final product. At an estimated 84,000 copies, Somebody's Miracle remains Phair's lowest selling LP to date.
she sucks at sell-out
― buzza, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
only elements of this exist in the final product
Elements?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link
notes and stuff
― Dr. Chuck Klosterman, LLC (jjjusten), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
"Look, a thing!"
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link
The acrostic of the first seven lines of one of the songs spells out "Sir Duke"
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link
"Stevie's use of the F# really pushed me through the creative process"
― Dr. Chuck Klosterman, LLC (jjjusten), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Perhaps she could have gone this route:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTsxpVcQtL4
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
"I loved how his clavinet reminded me of the sound of my larynx."
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
She could have gone this route:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03OElvyEoNs
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03OElvyEoNs
can somebody force dan to listen to this, because i need to experience his reaction
― Dr. Chuck Klosterman, LLC (jjjusten), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
He might die.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
to Celine doing "I Wish"?
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Where's Linda Ronstadt doing "You Haven't Done Nothin'"?
Celine is actually covering Skee-Lo.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
the route she probably actually tried:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFK6H_CcuX8
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^^ PLEASE ^^^^
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Did anyone read M@ura's ramble about this? Gave up after the first page (much like I gave up about a minute into "Bollywood")
― the food has a top snake of 1 (ulillillia), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
liz phair song is remarkably bad (just listened to the whole thing after bailing on the comedy voices a couple days ago). i get that it's supposed to be silly & self-mocking, but it's awful however you take it. like laurie anderson with all the wit removed, and so completely lost in time. seems to come from some bad, alternate 1990, like it's supposed to slot in next to soho or something. updated with c2K missy beats? can't make sense of it & can't believe it's an actual album track.
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
people
stop comparing this to laurie anderson
wtf
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Seriously, my 2NU comparison upthread is way more on the money.
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
well, i was just picking up on what was said before... but it's hard to hear this particular voice pitch shifted in this particular way without immediately snapping to "sharkey's night". and bringing up LA is an attempt to construct a conceptual frame in which the song might make sense - even though it still doesn't. but yeah, it's a tenuous comparison at best.
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
also, liz's attempt to comment on herself as an object presented for consumption smacks of conceptual art, or of certain ideas about such art, which (along with the sonic palette) links easily/lazily back to LA
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
it sounds more to me like she's fucking around. which i don't object to in principle, tho obv there are plenty more inspired examples. anyway i'm about to pay 6 bucks for the album out of mere curiosity, and that's more money than i've spent on a liz phair album in a long time.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
It certainly won't be the worst album to released on-line this year.
My hate isn't growing.
― Blue Sky Whine (SeekAltRoute), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link
omg i would not pay for an album with that song on it if my life depended on it
― janice (surm), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link
like obviously she is v confused, and some kind of drug, or something, or coming off a year or 2 on drugs during which she did nothing but fry her brain
am about to watch this celine tho
― janice (surm), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link
<3 u ramz
― altered scones (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 July 2010 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link