ILM July Madness: Round of 32 - WEST

21. Kraftwerk
vs
22. Al Green

this is sick. how could you make someone do this?

Can, The Notorious B.I.G., CCR, Joy Division/New Order

Beach Boys vs Can was the most painful in this one.

31. Prince
32. Black Sabbath

H8 u so much right now

ps no rockism/whatever complaints unless you think I left out something that could have realistically won this poll. that was my criteria. in retrospect I think I probably should have left out the stooges, but they got paired w/ duke so who cares. maybe kate bush.

ps 2: seeding was randomly generated

I think led zep might had a shot but ehhhh?

Fucking iPhone.

Beach Boys, The Notorious B.I.G., CCR, Joy Division/New Order

wau at this

all my first round choices are easy, except for maybe having to vote against the stones. next round will get hard though.

"maybe kate bush."

maybe kate bush what? maybe leave her out b/c no one else has a chance against her?

best poll ever. went can/abba/stones/bowie. are the other divisions active yet?

south is the most fucked up bracket by far. i say this cuz fall vs. smiths & stooges vs. dan are the easiest calls for me (FALL! STOOGES!), while eno vs. p-funk & prince vs. sabbath are almost impossible. practically unfair.

Beach Boys, The Notorious B.I.G., CCR, David Bowie

easy 4 me

Can, The Notorious B.I.G., CCR, Joy Division/New Order

afaik I've never heard Can, but fuck the Beach Boys

oh shit, I voted wrong. that was supposed to be:

Can, The Notorious B.I.G., CCR, David Bowie

oh well, that was the one I felt least strongly about

where can i vote for CCR, The Notorious B.I.G., CCR, The Notorious B.I.G.

who is CCR?!

p much the best band ever

these are mostly gonna be easy votes for me as i actively dislike at least half these acts

where can i vote for CCR, The Notorious B.I.G., CCR, The Notorious B.I.G.

― the boy boy young messi (J0rdan S.), Monday, July 5, 2010 11:47 PM Bookmark

^^^ the hardest shit since MC Ren

CCR = crime in choir

ohhhhhh CCR = creedence clearwater revival. i've heard half of one of their songs ever, at a bbq, and it was one of those final-straw-can-we-PLEASE-put-something-else-on moments. it was absolutely dreadful dad-rock. i'm boggling that a) they're considered ilm canon (don't think i've ever seen them mentioned before) and b) jordan likes (has heard!) them

not looking fwd to dylan/mbv and fall/smiths, how to bring myself to vote for any of those atrocious acts :( it already sucks that i had to vote for the rolling stones here.

also is this only a poll of elderly/dead/may as well be dead artists or...?

lex is funny

and out of 32 acts...only FOUR involve females o_0

I count at least seven acts with females, plus most of these acts had girlfriends and back up singers.

plus most of these acts had girlfriends
plus most of these acts had girlfriends
plus most of these acts had girlfriends
plus most of these acts had girlfriends
plus most of these acts had girlfriends
plus most of these acts had girlfriends

come on, was funny before you looped it. plus noting that ilm hive mind is kinda guy-centric /= sexisme!

pixies/jay-z/aaliyah would have all been decent additions (and maybe could have won a bracket?)

cant believe jordan has heard ccr

i know wtf

still, only 4 are "female artists" to any significant extent. point taken.

aretha franklin, donna summer, nina hagen, b-52s, heart, pixies, bjork, dusty springfield, joni mitchell, mazzy star/opal, missy, cher, portishead, cocteau twins, pj harvey, cat power, grace jones, nico, stereolab, the raincoats...

plus galled by absence of devo, talkingheads & boredoms

i love ccr

sbed lex tbqh

I was gonna vote CCR (don't feel too strongly either way, like a few songs by both, probably more by the Stones but their post-70s career and endless Mojo reverence is kind of offputting), but the amount of CCR love is kinda surprising me here, maybe into voting Stones

Beach Boys v Can is difficult! I like either band more than anyone else in this round.

Anyhow my first thought was the same as Johnny Fever's (Beach Boys, Abba, CCR, JD) and maybe first thoughts are the most important thing here

pixies/jay-z/aaliyah would have all been decent additions (and maybe could have won a bracket?)
plus galled by absence of devo, talkingheads & boredoms

there are tons of good additions and I thought about most of these. people should come up with good subtractions!

are the other divisions active yet?

nah my goal was to not flood new answers, not gonna do more than 1-2 at a time

plus noting that ilm hive mind is kinda guy-centric /= sexisme!

ty. yeah I had basically planned on lex coming to this thread and doing his act.

is there a place i can go that explains how this vote works?

the top of the thread? what's confusing?

what's confusing?

Like, uh, the entire thing?

I forgot some people might not have any idea what march madness is. this is a single round elimination tournament w/ 32 artists that I completely arbitrarily deemed to be ilm canon. to save space, each thread is essentially 4 poll threads at the same time, this one being:

Beach Boys vs. Can
The Notorious B.I.G. vs. ABBA
CCR vs. Rolling Stones
David Bowie vs. Joy Division/New Order

you vote for your particular mix of answers, one of which will be the 16 combinations

Can / Abba seem less ILM canon than the others here; actually would say the same about the Beach Boys. Also, why stink JD/NO together, besides the obv. reason? I love NO & like JD but they're pretty different acts. I'd have voted NO over Bowie (reluctantly) but Bowie over JD by a mile.

voted Beach Boys, The Notorious B.I.G., Rolling Stones, Joy Division/New Order fwiw.

also lol @ "stink"

Ah, got you! Beach Boys vs. Can = that's cruel, man

be *in* the xp

Also, can I really be on the verge of voting for CCR over the Stones?!??!?!?

"doing his act" smh

plus noting that ilm hive mind is kinda guy-centric /= sexisme!

it kinda IS tbh

encore encore

boring zing to go with boring taste

um Can won

oh duh. miscounted. hooray!

btw I didn't see this poll in time but it is pretty astonishing that "Can, The Notorious B.I.G., CCR, David Bowie" only got one vote for that is how I too would have voted

holy shit then it would have had 2 votes!

sorta surprised that lj likes CCR?

Too English is he?

Maybe he just hates the Stones

Maybe he just hates the Stones

'Gimme Shelter' is quite good. If someone could suggest some Stones tracks I might like then go ahead. But at this moment in time I can't freakin' stand them. Literally cannot wait until I reclaim my glorious surname from that charlatan

and his poxy spawn

always been a fan of "under my thumb" personally

ok well let's have a listen to 'under my thumb'

hang on this is from their early phase when they still had ideas

that's a funny way to characterize their early career imho

I mean I like the Stones and all - love a fair amount of their material - but they have always been outright thieves/magpies.

:D basically flaunting my ignorance in that charming way o' mine

but this has some groovy xylophone stylings and a cool tune. would listen again. no it isn't very original but I don't associate xylophone-borne melodies with The Stones, so it's at least a little surprising!

the next track on Spotify is Ministry's cover, which I am enjoying possibly even more

:/

Don't try to tell me you don't like "Paint It Black"

.. or "Paint It, Black" to be pedantic about it

xps.....nah, it's not that good, tbh - Ministry can do better than this

:D basically flaunting my ignorance in that charming way o' mine

What's charming about it?

Self-deprecation is an art, my dear WmC

Oh I know this song! It was in that film. It's quite good, yeah. Again, though, it's from their first album! How the hell can a band this unoriginal release thirty goddamn albums or whatever it is

Paint It Black is an amazing tune

it is not from their first album!

"Original"? What does that even mean?

it means 'bringing new ideas to the table', 'displaying a modicum of artistic innovation', 'doing anything remotely surprising'

Oh wait, so Aftermath isn't their first record? They've been going bloody ages :/

Geirspeak

give me some credit dude, I am attempting to engage with a band I don't like very much - I could have just walked in here, farted at the Stones, and sauntered out

Aftermath is like their 5th record or something

Yes, but you should hear the Caridacs 5th album

my guess is you'd like the mid-period stuff the most from what you're saying - the period where they were no longer shameless American R&B copyists (really some of that early stuff is SO EGREGIOUS - sometimes good/great, sometimes awful) but before they'd morphed into blues-rock libertines, basically the period where most of their interesting ideas were coming from Brian Jones. Their psych phase is hilarious, but has lots of great tunes.

Prolly. But then if you like "Gimme Shelter"...

so like Their Satanic Majesties Request, then?

Gimme Shelter is a rollicking, unimpeachable piece of aural chemistry that defies its lumpen source material - this shit can't be legislated for

I'd recommend: Aftermath - Between the Buttons - Her Satanic Majesties - Beggar's Banquet

HSM is a goddamn silly record but it has some great stuff on it and is a wonderful mess

Shakey's recs are how I got into them and sidestepped some of the conclusions I'd drawn about them growing up with them as the biggest band on the planet. Maybe also check out "Street Fighting Man" if you like Gimme. Or just enjoy this, the version sung by the original version's "back-up" singer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPx1Zlc0IBU

ah sweet guys, cheers - will give those albums a listen