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I dunno man, Wales will be up for it and that Montenegro team must have 30 or 40 professionals to choose from.

I would just like to see Maradona try and snog Stuart Pearce tbh

I dunno man, Wales will be up for it and that Montenegro team must have 30 or 40 professionals to choose from.

Once you've faced the might of Slovenia you can have few fears

Fuck that, If Maradona wins the WC for Argentina, the FA should be targetting him
― ,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 July 2010 13:12 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Nah surely it's time for an english manager now? After a swede, a dutch and an italian??

Has anybody suggested Shearer yet?

I suppose if you take the position that the Malvinas are British territory, it's not that far of a leap to getting Diego on board tbh.

xpost fuck alan shearer, he's too fucking dearer

Maradona worked for Argentina, so surely only one man will do for England:

http://www.xrv.org.uk/forums/attachments/chatter/302d1181841322-bbc-headline-abbas-warns-collapse-gaza-gazza.jpg

It's just possible that Gazza will be too out of it to worry about what the press thinks of his team selection.

Jimmy 5 Bellies at centre half.

Do England shirts come in XXXXXXXXL?

Clubs at which, according to Soccerbase, the England Squad from 1990 began their careers (and their clubs at the time of the tournament):

Stoke City (Derby County)
Brighton and Hove Albion (Glasgow Rangers)
Wealdstone (Nottinghasm Forest)
Reading (Manchester United)
Nottingham Forest (Nottingham Forest)
Ipswich Town (Glasgow Rangers)
West Bromwich Albion (Manchester United)
Tow Law Town (Olympique de Marseille)
Wallsend (Liverpool)
Leicester (Tottenham Hotspur)
Sudbury Court (Liverpool)
Fulham (QPR)
Nottingham Forest (Glasgow Rangers)
Oxford United (Derby County)
Aston Villa (Chelsea)
Everton (Liverpool)
Manchester United (Aston Villa)
Nottingham Forest (Nottingham Forest)
Newcastle United (Tottenham Hotspur)
Burnley (Glasgow Rangers)
West Bromwich Albion (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
Leeds United (Arsenal)
Edgware Town (Chelsea)

This year:

Watford (Portsmouth)
West Ham United (Liverpool)
Arsenal (Chelsea)
Liverpool (Liverpool)
Nottingham Forest (Tottenham Hotspur)
Chelsea (Chelsea)
Leeds (Tottenham Hotspur)
West Ham United (Chelsea)
Tottenham Hotspur (Tottenham Hotspur)
Everton (Manchester United)
West Ham United (Chelsea)
Norwich City (West Ham United)
Liverpool (Aston Villa)
Aston Villa (Manchester City)
Luton Town (West Ham United)
Leeds United (Aston Villa)
Nottingham Forest (Manchester City)
Liverpool (Liverpool)
Charlton Athletic (Tottenham Hotspur)
Tottenham Hotspur (Tottenham Hotspur)
Leicester City (Aston Villa)
West Ham United (Manchester United)
Shrewsbury Town (Manchester City)

We've been worrying about Premiership teams giving chances to their youth team products but I wonder whether we should think more about how and why English football has managed to reuce the supply lines of players from smaller clubs to the best clubs?

Everybody knows the top 4 have got all the best English players, silly

West Bromwich Albion (Wolverhampton Wanderers)

Should've have 50-odd caps :D

I didn't know he started at West Brom - was he a boyhood baggy?

Don't think so. He was born in Tipton anyway.

Liverpool and, uh, Rangers dominating the 1990 squad

how and why English football has managed to reuce the supply lines of players from smaller clubs to the best clubs

because now the bigger clubs buy all before them at as young an age as possible, and then nurture them in a professional and successful manner through the ranks?

xp And Forest.

not xpost: more than they did then? It's not like Manchester United didn't have a youth team in the 70s and '80s.

The point I'm trying to make is serious, if not very thoroughly thought-through: finding the lads who will be the very best players is always hit and miss, even for clubs like Ajax who do it remarkably well - guessing which of your youth will be the best players in 8-10 years time will always involve mistakes. If we have reduced the way back for players who miss the cut at 14 then we're likely missing some class.

tryign to think who the second tottenham (tottenham) player is besides king- is it crouch? not sure he had signed forms for us tbh

xp

no, i agree with you tim, to be honest

Yeah it's Crouch, he did actually sign a professional contract and he played for the Spurs youth team.

xp It is. Doesn't look like he made the first team so maybe that should read QPR (Tottenham).

Of course I have an ulterior motive because it'd be really nice to see a few more of those pounds sloshing into the lower leagues.

There's a thing in the back of my mind where I suspect that coaches select (at least in part) on players' ability to absorb and respond to coaching, and that's one of the things which programmes out the hint of the mercurial which England could do with so badly just now. But that is baseless speculation really.

xpost how tall was crouch when he first signed?

(and how good were his feet?)

Wealdstone (Nottinghasm Forest)

Think the local tourist board should change the name to Nottinghasm forthwith.

Now available for call-up again

Marlon King out yet?

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_03/bartonDM_468x589.jpg

HE'S READY

we did that england XI already didn't we?

With Adams for manager, obviously?

nah, he'd be too preachy.

gazza has already been locked in for this one imo

Didn't Harry say he'd take the England job?

yeah he said that.

he wasn't asked by anyone important, but he said it nonetheless

Fabio's staying.

Arsenal have made the bold decision to pull out of the FA Premier Reserve League. The surprise move comes despite leaked details of a much needed revamp, which is set to come into play for the new season.

The Gunners join Fulham, Stoke City, Birmingham City and Tottenham Hotspur in deciding to pull out of Reserves League, and will instead opt to arrange their own second string fixtures in the form of friendlies. The decision will see a complete overhaul of youth development at Arsenal, with those previously in the Reserve team now stepping up into the first-team as part of the 25 man squad rule. The Under 18′s will continue as normal, while a large number of players will be leaving on loan.

The clubs prowess in the Reserves has been well documented, and it was thought that Arsenal would be one of the key participants in the new re-shuffled league. However, this move is a sign of the quality in the Academy, with players now poised for a quicker route from Under 18′s football into the first-team. The best players will be moved up to work with Arsène Wenger, while those just needing a little extra will leave on loan.

Neil Banfield’s role should also adjust slightly. He is expected to focus more heavily on helping making the transition into the first-team a smooth one, while still taking the friendly games.

Further details of how the new ‘Arsenal XI’ will play their games this season should be announced shortly.

ignoring the arsenal specific bits of the arsenal based article- messing around with what is seen as the 1st step for youths as english football shows it obv needs more than a knock out round that could see most clubs u21s not have anything to play for after the first couple months of the season. ffs fa.

Davenport was accused of launching the ferocious attack on his 28-year-old sister Cara after being told she was pregnant again.

hum, Gerrard or Terry?

28-year-old tho

too young for Rooney

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/02/article-1291467-0A4C3526000005DC-726_468x346.jpg

http://ezpicshare.com/images/bigsam-1278198850.jpg

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/world_cup/865175/ENGLAND-FACE-YEARS-IN-THE-WILDERNESS.html

LET'S be clear about one thing - no country has ever won the World Cup with a foreign coach.

Fucking stupid walrus face, might as well suggest digging up Alf Ramsey.

But whoever succeeds Capello will have a huge job on their hands otherwise we might have to accept suffering a spell in the international wilderness as Holland did in the 1980s.

Holland won euro '88.

But yeah, really looking forward to Capello choosing John Terry for the Hungary friendly. You know, just acting like nothing happened and then killing his Eng career, slowly but surely, and finally dropping him at some point during qualification for the Euros.

Haha, 'strue - you'd think he would've cited england's spell in the wilderness in the 70s instead. I'm sure that must've been under foreign coaches too, so it would suit his argument perfectly.

Yeah its got nothing to do with it.

Also given that Dunga and Maradona failed to lift the cup people might have been saying all sorts about how former players don't win WCs as coaches but bcz Beckenbauer did with Germany in '90 that won't happen as that scenario has worked, even if only the one time in nearly 20 WCs.

But whoever succeeds Capello will have a huge job on their hands otherwise we might have to accept suffering a spell in the international wilderness as Holland did in the 1980s.

did they have a foreign manager or something?

*All* foreign teams have foreign managers.

I think the point is everyone has managers who aren't Big Sam's Big Fat Face.

Also given that Dunga and Maradona failed to lift the cup people might have been saying all sorts about how former players don't win WCs as coaches but bcz Beckenbauer did with Germany in '90 that won't happen as that scenario has worked, even if only the one time in nearly 20 WCs.

― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 4 July 2010 11:12 (Yesterday) Bookmark

carlos perreira, iirc?