Basic Channel Records ... Educate Me, Please.

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i would like a capsule review vahid! i might even attempt my own.

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i'd like to read a lenghty critical appraisal of the basic channel series. are there any?

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

ps vahid write a book

friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

pps-but can you tone the 'omg noobs' type commentary down a bit, especially where it isn't needed?

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

though i would like capsule reviews too.

i think you overrated phylyps trak, but i need to listen to it a few more times before i get into specifics as to why.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

also, 'Elephants' is pretty awesome. thx for the tip.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

also, 'Elephants' is prettyFUCKING awesome. thx for the tip.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

No problem. I agree, it's awesome. And I can't listen here at work but their myspace has a Dennis Young (of Liquid Liquid) remix of "Elephants" up. That should be quite nice. It's here: http://www.myspace.com/tusslers

Also, you can download two choice cuts they've released on Rong at their website here: http://www.tussle.org/music.html

matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, so now i understand the Tussle love. weird that the tracks i slsk'ed don't impress me in the same way.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always considered them a bit undeservedly ignored.

matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

someone please please please help me find the german dub-techno 12" that i once listened to at a store in san diego ... i don't remember ANYTHING about it except it was either from berlin or detroit, it was full of scary pinging sonar sounds and hard acid, it sounded a LOT like phylyps "trak" except rougher and nastier and more aggro, and it had a picture of the bow of a submarine plowing straight at you on the cover.

95% sure it was NOT drexciya or UR

vahid (vahid), Friday, 2 February 2007 06:19 (seventeen years ago) link

was that at Elevator records? Mark was always trying to get me to buy that record but it was way to hard for me. I can clearly picture it in my mind...

tylero (tylero), Friday, 2 February 2007 06:48 (seventeen years ago) link

not clear enough to remember the name, alas.

tylero (tylero), Friday, 2 February 2007 06:49 (seventeen years ago) link

oh wait...was it one of these records: http://www.discogs.com/label/Surface

tylero (tylero), Friday, 2 February 2007 07:30 (seventeen years ago) link

HAHA YES ... WE HAVE TOUCHED THE SAME VINYL (no brokeback)

MYSTERY SOLVED ... now we know why i always thought it was a chain reaction related project!!

vahid (vahid), Friday, 2 February 2007 07:55 (seventeen years ago) link

so anyway, yeah that shit was astoundingly rugged but i think not an entirely illogical progression from something like "enforcement" or "trak"

vahid (vahid), Friday, 2 February 2007 08:01 (seventeen years ago) link

listen to the label here and be sure to check the paul mac eps!

vahid (vahid), Friday, 2 February 2007 08:22 (seventeen years ago) link

does anyone here like PUB?

the one on orange vinyl is very very good

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 2 February 2007 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/release/25759

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 2 February 2007 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: Wow, I wish I had that Paul Mac ep! It's really good!

tylero (tylero), Friday, 2 February 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

it's all about e2-e4 basic reshape. a shame it's only 6 minutes long.

rio natsume (rio natsume), Saturday, 3 February 2007 03:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i've yet to explore chain reaction.
-- friday on the porch (l...), January 30th, 2007. (lfam) (link)

i have wrapped my life in chain reaction. the records keep destroying me. hallucinator "morpheus" and fluxion "prospect I/II."

the table is the table (treesessplode), Sunday, 4 February 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

On the speed thing, this thread inspired me to give Octagon another listen, and I cued it up as an mp3 since I don't have a turntable at the moment - and I was shocked by how fast it is at +/-0! (Octaedre is even faster, IIRC) I don't think I've EVER heard it that fast before, because I've never listened to it unmixed before, and it tends to get mixed with stuff that's more normal-ish kinds of tempos, at least in my experience. The standard tempo of a track is a great insight into what the context its creators imagine for it, and it's kind of blowing my mind they imagine it sitting next to the kind of brutal (and usually minimal, if punishing) techno that sits at that speed.

Elsa Svitborg (tracerhand), Monday, 5 February 2007 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Moritz's mix of Tony Allen is pretty much the only thing that's keeping me alive today

a (rslvd), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, the speed is what makes octaedre for me. it's so fast but so skeletal... just a few elements in a huge space. i think the slight delay on the snare's reverb is what keeps the rhythm tight enough to work at the speed. it's like the track is just keeping time until that comes in.

friday on the porch (lfam), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

it's also noteworthy that the speed is there, but the BOOM BOOM is not. the beat is buried in this really nice way. once in a while i can hardly remember it is there.

also, i know i keep on saying this, but CHAIN FUCKING REACTION.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
omg n00bz

i FINALLY bought "pole 3" this past weekend, after all these years ...

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Weird, I was thinking about these records today. I always used to play them at -16% at 33rpm. I have the first three of them in a record box in my parents basement back home. #4 was kinda sketchy, he wore the formula a little thin by then. They are keeping my Gas double packs company. I haven't heard any of this stuff in years.

I had the day off and decided to play though some of the old M records and BC stuff. I need to pick up more stuff like this. I think it is getting to be time to revisit shuffled 909 hi hats and chord stabs.

Display Name, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 05:29 (seventeen years ago) link

pole fucking sux vahid looooo-l

am0n, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

;-)

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry that was very snrub of me

am0n, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

There's no need for us to fight, we're sister and brother.

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

i miss porter ricks so much.

and yes, chain reaction is totally classic, especially when it shows up in a tribal set!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Pole has a new album out on Scape, saw it at the store today. It isn't very good.

Display Name, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 07:19 (seventeen years ago) link

nine years pass...

classic post

really really really really reaaaaaaaallly good
bc-02 - phylyps "trak"
bc-03 - lyot "reshape"
bc-07 - "octagon" / "octaedre"

really really really really good

bc-04 - quadrant "1.1"
bc-08 - "radiance"
bc-qd - quadrant "infinition"
bc-cd - CD compilation

really really good but not sure what the point was

bc-01 - cyrus "enforcement"
bc-09 - phylyps "trak ii"
tresor 100 - scion arrange and process basic channel tracks

merely really good though sometimes boring

bc-05 - cyrus "inversion"
bc-06 - quadrant "dub"

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:27 AM (ten years ago)

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Sunday, 4 September 2016 04:37 (seven years ago) link

Do Various Artists fit into this somewhere? Decay Product is a fantastic record.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Sunday, 4 September 2016 09:17 (seven years ago) link

Are these the same versions as on the 12"s or edited versions? www.discogs.com/Basic-Channel-BCD-2/release/1345423

Wimmels, Sunday, 4 September 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

bc2's tracks are unedited

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 4 September 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link

thanks!

Wimmels, Sunday, 4 September 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

Various Artists is Torsten Pröfrock, some stuff under T++ and was part of Robert Henke's Monolake stuff for a few releases.

afaik this thread is mostly basic channel the artists/label but the chain reaction stuff was what they published from others

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Sunday, 4 September 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link

btw saw moritz dj this year, it was good

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Sunday, 4 September 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

Destroy "radiance" for inspiring all that shitty echo cord emo dub shit

brimstead, Sunday, 4 September 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

enforcement is maybe the best for me. a brutal hypnosis.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 4 September 2016 23:22 (seven years ago) link

enforcement, phylyps trak ii, quadrant 1.1 and octaedre (though it is way too fast) are the ones that i still play out. phylyps trak ii still way, way out in front of all the others for me.

stirmonster, Monday, 5 September 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link

my favorites are probably

enforcement
q 1.1 b1
infinition

brimstead, Monday, 5 September 2016 00:44 (seven years ago) link

All the 12"s were released digitally a while back - I got them from the Amazon MP3 store.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 5 September 2016 01:02 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...

classic post

really really really really reaaaaaaaallly good
bc-02 - phylyps "trak"
bc-03 - lyot "reshape"
bc-07 - "octagon" / "octaedre"

really really really really good

bc-04 - quadrant "1.1"
bc-08 - "radiance"
bc-qd - quadrant "infinition"
bc-cd - CD compilation

really really good but not sure what the point was

bc-01 - cyrus "enforcement"
bc-09 - phylyps "trak ii"
tresor 100 - scion arrange and process basic channel tracks

merely really good though sometimes boring

bc-05 - cyrus "inversion"
bc-06 - quadrant "dub"

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, March 26, 2006 2:27 AM (ten years ago)

― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Saturday, September 3, 2016 9:37 PM (six years ago)

i would like to revise these rankings

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 16:05 (eleven months ago) link

at the time i was listening to a lot of hard techno, so probably overrated these two:

bc-02 phylyps trak
bc-03 octagon / octaedre

of the two i think octagon holds up better as a “basic channel track”. i like the weird blippy noises on octagon that skitter across the sound field like drops of water dancing around a hot skillet. octaedre is not so exciting for me, it’s like they tacked the maurizio dub house beat onto the a-side, doesn’t quite work for me

phylyps trak also sounds (to me anyway) a lot like octagon with a beat tacked but it’s that insane barreling early 90s german techno beat. there’s a mills mix on one side and that’s how i think of the whole ep, as the most “techno compatible” of the series. i have to admit i can’t really tell the three mixes apart. maybe phylyps base emphasizes the kick (phylyps bass?) and i think at one point mills adds some choppy transmat type snares and hats? i usually just pick one randomly when i play it

people complain about these being too fast, and yeah like a lot of the series they’re 140+ bpm! but i guess with the rise of new “copenhagen techno” stuff and current interest in juke tempo music maybe it’s their time now

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 16:28 (eleven months ago) link

if it’s too fast you’re too old

brimstead, Saturday, 20 May 2023 16:51 (eleven months ago) link

bc-03 lyot reshape

here’s an embarrassing confession, i think i was confusing this one with the maurizio lyot remix, which is part of m series not bc series. that one is obviously eternal. i like how submerged and spacey this mix is.

the phylyps mix on the other side is as indistinguishable to me as the others. at 10 mins long it might be the most functional one from a dj perspective? i feel like i discover something new each time i listen to a different mix … and then promptly forget whatever i discovered. maybe that’s a feature not a bug woth the phylyps traks

bc-05 cyrus inversion / presence

i never listen to inversion. i’m not sure what the appeal is. i guess maybe the unique synth notes over the top? those notes sound vaguely middle eastern to me (like some sort of zither) maybe that’s why it says “cyrus” on the label? but i find the thick high frequency hiss maddening

presence reminds me of lyot reshape, as spacey as this set gets. it’s like listening to a glacier, or glimpsing an iceberg in the fog, a vague impression of something distant and massive that goes on almost forever and you’re only seeing the barest outlines. one of my favorite chain reaction tracks (ridis “foto”) pulls a similar trick ... but as as i love staring into the void, i’m not always in the mood for staring into void. sometimes it’s like sinking into an amniotic bath, sometimes it’s just too distant, too cold and forbidding. idk how it manages to be both, probably just had to do with my moods?

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 16:58 (eleven months ago) link


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