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Computers are old hat.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Not a peep on Leopard yesterday, IIRC.

or iLife 07. or changes to computers. I saw someone commenting that they knew the iPhone would overshadow everything, so they are going to wait.

roc u like a § (ex machina), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm:

Mr. Jobs would not say how open the phone would be to other developers, but added: “I don’t want people to think of this as a computer. I think of it as reinventing the phone.”

He also said he was anxious to help protect the Cingular network from the kind of viruses and worms that bedevil the PC world today.

Why not say? And "viruses"? Was that just a nonsense dig at Windows, or a spurious reason to lock it down?

stet (stet), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

XScale!!!!! Do I get a cookie? (LOL at Britishes and ARM)

It is XScale, or you think it is?

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Or you think I think it is?

(This is getting confusing)

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, just a little hint on the way the business world tends to work (which is probably patronizing as I'm guessing everyone else already knows this but I like to type):

If the CEO of a company is stressing that a relatively obvious logical extension of the displayed functionality is not on the table or not the way the product should be used, that usually means that A) that simple intuitive leap is a gigantic world of hurt for the application on either or both the implementation and quality assurance fronts; and/or B) they tried to do that from the get-go and the whole thing blew up massively in their faces, so they are now massively downplaying it in order to buy time to figure out how to get themselves out of the corner they've put themselves into.

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Or in short, if Apple don't explicitly say toy X does something, even if it seems obvious, it often doesn't. See iPod and features upgrading, iTV and quicktime file formats, Finder and working properly etc etc

stet (stet), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

lol at Finder

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

"This is not the functionality you are looking for. Move along."

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, dan Perry.... PATRONIZING??!?!?!? IMAGINE THAT?!@?!?!?

Personally, I think jobs was trying to stay on target yesterday, hence no mention of any new/updated Apple software.


re: XScale / it seems logical and there was a story about it I saw on google reader a few weeks back

roc u like a § (ex machina), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Game recognize game.

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"This is not the functionality you are looking for. Move along."

Ha ha.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

barf fart

TOMB07 (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Intel dropped XScale and sold it though--which means either they resurrected it for Apple, or they went to Marvell, which given that Apple & Intel are currently best buddies seems a bit unlikely.

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

thread is cracking me up

reverto levidensis (blueski), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought intel only sold a few parts of XScale? Weird. I looked at a few sites last night to see if anyone had press releases but didn't see any.

roc u like a § (ex machina), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I just wanted to post this link to remind everyone of how crap most guis and devices are for text input

http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/

roc u like a § (ex machina), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, no you're right Jon--just found this press release snippet:

This planned sale does not impact the ability of other Intel businesses in the networking and storage market segments to continue to use ARM-based, Intel XScale processors. Those Intel businesses will be able to continue licensing chip designs directly from ARM Holdings PLC and modifying the designs for their needs.

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Though that's for networking and storage only, so it won't be main CPU stuff.

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

grr @ finder

Bodyrox feat. Luciano Pavarotti (fandango), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Yea, it seems like XScale is out though. Good catch!

roc u like a § (ex machina), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Intel SOCs are now being sold by Marvell. The choices from Marvell are the PXA255 (too slow for the iPhone), PXA270 (still a bit anemic, and would require some external circuits, like high-speed USB), or PXA300-series, which are pretty new. I could possibly see Apple as one of the first customers for the PXA320, which is the first SOC of the 300-series to ship.

There are also higher-end ARMs available from Freescale and Samsung, and there's always the possibility that Apple did their own CPU or had one built to spec.

schwantz (schwantz), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I think we can rule out an entirely new CPU. That shit would be insane amounts of work, plus it would be something Apple have never done before.

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

PXA27x contains a USB controller, AFAIK

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's just a full-speed OTG controller. I may be wrong, though.

I think the whole "runs OSX" thing should have some giant asterix next to it, as it is obviously some sort of subset of the OS, or a set of APIs or something.

This is intersting: http://www.simmtester.com/page/news/shownews.asp?where=2895625&num=9767

Knowing Apple, it's probably some weird Frankenstein combo of a bunch of chips.

schwantz (schwantz), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

You interface boffins have seen this, right?

http://honeybrown.ca/Pubs/BumpTop.html

It would be cool to do that stuff on an EYEPHONE.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

i just read somewhere that you WON'T be able to chain hard drives to the appletv directly. you can attach 'em to your computer and stream, but looks like you can't use this as a big harddriveable media hub.

this thing looks shittier and shittier the more i look at it, honestly

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Which is odd because the Airport Extreme hub can daisy chain additional drives.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

you can't use this as a big harddriveable media hub.

Well then the itv would have to have filesharing so you could access those

roc u like a § (ex machina), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

oinktv?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

can i use iTV and SlingBox together to travel through time

TOMB07 (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

i read about some hub that actually does have a torrent client built in

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

$600 for 8gb no thank you.

This the perfect example of a convergence project. Everyone who was hoping for a 100GB iPod is incredibly disappointed. Everyone who (like me) was looking at paying 3-400 bucks for a blackberry/Treo/PPC-6700 that has between 128-256 MB of storage (expandable with overpriced flash cards) is incredibly excited about 4-8GB. (Not excited about Cingular, not at all, but as of right now I am leaning towards switching in the summer.)

I am currently using a Sprint phone, Verizon blackberry and my 2nd gen 20GB ipod (circa 2002) which is a tank. I have been holding off on a new phone/berry in the hopes of something better, and I would definitely switch over to the iPhone for the joy of reducing the device count in my pockets from 3 to 1. That said, as is pretty much ALWAYS the case with apple, it might be worth waiting until the 2nd generation (16GB flash? unlocked GSM? HSDPI?)

Ash (ashbyman), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Hopefully we'll be on 2nd gen stuff before anything's released to the UK.

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

this thing looks shittier and shittier the more i look at it, honestly

yeah that thing is a long way away.

whatever i just use this unit here: http://217.205.137.242/images/Apple/OR2150000019411.jpg

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

that's what i did till i got my current dvd player.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/1/10/6559 criticism/shortcomings with an eye on what comes after model 1.0

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

*cough* http://daringfireball.net/2007/01/iphone_arm *cough*

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 11 January 2007 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link

lol at non-britishes lolling at britishes over ARM

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6250511.stm

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link

S'on t'other thread.

So, how long before the iPods go touchyfeelyscreeny?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link

my boss predicted a samsung arm-based thing. like their arm11

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's an 1136.

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

is there any reason i shouldn't buy a 24" imac here in canada before i leave? these things are generally accepted as being totally awesome, right? ed? jon? alan? tom?

m@p (plosive), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, buy one, but you make get hit for VAT and import duties when you bring it into the UK and I'm not sure if the warranties on desktop machines are international. (They are for laptops)

Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

On the other hand, you might be able to claim the tax back using the visitors tax form.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm sending a small amount of stuff over by boat, so i figure i'll just send it over with that. the shipment is fully insured and apparently safe for electronics, plus its (allegedly) duty-free, so it seems like a pretty safe bet.

re: upgrades, RAM (from 1 to 2 gigs) and the video card seem like no-brainers, but everyone's saying the upgrade to 2.33 isn't necessary. that sound about right?

m@p (plosive), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

How soon do you leave?


Do any of the Britishes still have their Amigas????

roc u like a § (ex machina), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

actually i do have my strongarm acorn under my desk here. i'm not making this up.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link


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