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Blech. He can't really be "our" president if he didn't win the election, can he? Since I hate politics (precisely for reasons such as this) I will now shut up about this forevermore.

Chris K (suzy), Monday, 26 April 2004 18:10 (twenty years ago) link

er, i was kidding! fuck bush etc!

i wanted to revive this to ask if anyone has any insights into mn being a red state all of a sudden. what happened? the mall? redistricting? i don't quite get it.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 26 April 2004 18:14 (twenty years ago) link

also, i kinda like block e! it's so awful and hollow, destined to be vacant, you can almost hear the capital draining away. it always makes me chuckle.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 26 April 2004 18:22 (twenty years ago) link

That's exactly the way I felt about the Conservatory; after the first couple of months, the only time anyone set foot in the place was to escape the weather for a block.

The current state of Block E is far more saddening to me than humorous. I survived many an hour plus bus ride (including transferring) from St. Paul to go to Minneapolis, and Northern Lights in particular, the original location of which was found on the North side of Block E. It was tiny, with the hardcore records and a place to put your skateboard right at the front. There was a row of records down the middle of the rest of it, and on weekends or before / after shows it would be so crowded that the only path through the store was one way. The clerks (Ryan, Rod and Randy) were like gods to me and the role models my parents never wanted me to have. Years later, when Northern Lights moved to a larger location on the next block, Vaughn, the resident lech, would try to convince me to go see 25 cent movies at Fantasy House on Block E. I prefered Shinders, where I would buy import priced copies of the Face and Suzy would read NME and Melody Maker at lightning speed so she wouldn't have to buy them. Rifle Sport Gallery was there, as well as Moby Dick's, home to a 'whale of a drink'. I never actually had a drink there but did peek my head inside once and also saw large numbers of 'patrons' staggering out of the front door and collapsing in the gutter.

Even it's transitionary period as a parking lot had it's saving grace, as it provided a place for Cheap Trick to play for free a few years back.

When go by there now, I see the ghosts of punks, drunks and the business people who would hurrily walk down the sidewalk, dodging the misfits.

Chris K (suzy), Monday, 26 April 2004 20:04 (twenty years ago) link

that sounds really great. i moved here in 00, no golden age for me

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 26 April 2004 20:27 (twenty years ago) link

Minnestrone/Minnestroneans?

Skottie, Monday, 26 April 2004 21:14 (twenty years ago) link

Vaughn was hilarious, his other popular offer was to invite me and Nancy to *go swimmin'* at his house. Looked like a short Derek Jarman, sounded like Fred Schneider, and rode around downtown in dodgy weather on his bike, wearing Army-issue snowpants upon which he had painted dozens of pink sperm.

OF COURSE BUSH HAS GONE TO FUCKING EDINA. You expect he's welcome anywhere else in the state?

suzy (suzy), Monday, 26 April 2004 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

how the fuck can the Red Dragon still be open? That was one of the dive bars I mentioned way up in the thread, a place where you could reliably drink with losers any time the light was on.

I always thought the CC was an interesting place. On way too many occasions it drew tourist-types looking to have a drink with musical luminaries. But the juke was always good.

The Uptown had a pretty good run back in the late 80s but was really fading by the time the early 90s. Is it even open anymore?

don carville weiner, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:33 (twenty years ago) link

Don, Chris K and her friends live around the corner from the RD and the 'rehab' of said dive was down to them.

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 11:10 (twenty years ago) link

nine months pass...
o ye twin cities
i only knew you for a year
you are cold then hot rinse repeat
with quiet and good people
you say 'ramp' instead of 'garage'
i think of you as purple because of this USA jigsaw i had as a kid/the vikings
brad radke i salute you
and your lakes, so lovely
do not give me a ticket for 'snow emergencies'
i love you still (except for the utne reader)

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.twintone.com/mats-scrapbook/ttpromo/mats8505.jpeg

snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...

Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 00:44 (nineteen years ago) link

it's kind of disturbing how tommy st1nson is a)not much older than me, and b)so much hotter than me

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 00:47 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.emily.net/~schiller/glacial4.jpg

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 00:53 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.startribune.com/stonline/images/news98/1twin0909.l.jpg

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.dirtynelson.com/linen/gif2/75krg63.jpg
Koerner, Ray & Glover

briania (briania), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 07:07 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Classic but clearly deranged:

For more than a year, investigators found, Runningshield, a 26-year-old North Dakota native who penned flowery letters to Thole and gave him the nickname "Oldman," had both attorneys convinced that he was a wealthy friend waiting to turn over millions of dollars to them.

Setting up a business with an inmate violates Minnesota prison rules. Thole was reprimanded by the court for using official stationery from his office so that his letters to Runningshield would not be opened by prison officials. Lillie also was reprimanded for misusing legal correspondence.

In some cases, investigators found, Thole had written up his own sexual adventures as a young man and sent them to Runningshield in official county attorney envelopes.

...

Documents released by the board, detail the close friendship and business dealings between Thole and Runningshield, sentenced to 20 years for his part in the 1995 south Minneapolis stabbing and kicking death of a champion tae kwon do competitor.

Contacted recently at his home, Thole, a former Stillwater City Council member, said his only comment was: "I'm sorry."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I am from Minnesota.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you in prison for your tae kwon do murders?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

(Rod once tried to write a hip-hop/techno opera about the pillages of Heliogabalus. Tell me this does not surprise you)

-- suzy (theartskooldisk...), April 21st, 2004.

haha Suzy, nothing about Rod could possibly surprise me.

-- Matos W.K. (michaelangelomato...), April 21st, 2004.

I have to meet this Rod Smith guy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link

HEY LOOK A ROAD NEAR MY HOUSE

http://static.flickr.com/7/10577386_c46e89dc1b_o.jpg

gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Is that 316 or 55? Because if it's 316, YOU LIVE REALLY FUCKING CLOSE TO ME PROBABLY.

Dan (R4v3nn4 Tr41l) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I think we've been over this!

I live by 4fton 4lps. That's "Military Road." 70th St. 'Bout two miles west of the aforementioned ski area.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link

AH, we have been over this.

I can't remember, were the St4ben0ws still living around there while you were in school? Jessica was in my class and I can't remember if she had younger siblings or not.

Wait, the J0hnsons lived out that way (wildly uncommon name, I know)! I think they had 5 or 6 kids in that family, the youngest of which was probably in school at the same time as you (Dan was in my class; he was a kick-ass distance runner who went to Brown).

Dan (Memories/All Alone In The Moonlight) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I WAS FRIENDS WITH B3N ST4BENOW. His mom used to be a nun. FACT.

Jesse went to Nepal w/the Peace Corps. Zach almost made the US Ski Team and Nate...live in Wyoming for a while?

I knew Wade J0hnson. Nice guy. Dated my One Twue Wuv for a while in 8th grade and I wanted to kill him for it.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link

His mom used to be a nun.

Would have been cooler if she always had been.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I will see Eric J0hns0n soon. At the wedding of P3rry M0rt3ns0n.

Dan, you can get up off the floor now.

(Did I mention that MN is classic? Because it fucking is, esp. STPL.)

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:43 (eighteen years ago) link

hey do you guys know +0m bRun@n$ky?

gear (gear), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I do not know every single person in Minnesota, gear.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

MISREPRESENTATION

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I will be in MN this weekend! Not that it means anything, but the thread is active and I will be. So there.

mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm sorry, the wedding of WHO?????????????????????????

Dan (On The Floor) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 March 2006 05:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Details plz. (Like, is this entity the most unmarriable person ever or something?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Perhaps. But he is a sweet fellow...

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 10 March 2006 06:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I knew three Eric J0hnsons growing up in Minnesota.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:03 (eighteen years ago) link

So did everyone else.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Rod Smith once made up his own set of Ana Voog lyrics. They went (sung over dinky pseudo-Prince backing track c. '85):

You've got a dick, and you're watching me
I'm on the Internet but it's not free

CLASSIC

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:26 (eighteen years ago) link

The guitarist guy who did Ah Via Musicom?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Eric Johnson is the name of my best friend in high school. Still a good friend, actually.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link

BEST THREAD EVER, btw.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I know like two Eric Johnsons. Seems like if your dude's from Minnesota, he'd be named Erik Jonsson.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:31 (eighteen years ago) link

no, it's Eric Johnson.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Purely selfish why-MN's-classic thing: The attractive-female-to-attractive-male ratio is off the fucking charts. This is why in Minneapolis any dork guy who can form a sentence is generally dating a woman who's three times better-looking than he is.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link

My mother is a Johnson whose father was a Johnson and both of HIS parents were (unrelated) Johnsons and among all of that, no Eric nor anyone who even likes the name Eric (we have a bunch of family names to contend with). There are lots of boys called Eric Johnson - just maybe a bit less of them in the suburb I grew up in.

Matos - Rod Smith will probably be able to back up my story about the invention of gaydar (when I was 16 and in the store, employee GT was macking on some straight boy and I asked him if his really existed). But that song-parody doesn't even begin to touch THE GENIUS. He used to tell people that his folks were called Evelyn and Trevylan Smith; the sisters that wanted to meet/fuck all the instore guests, but were like punk versions of the Chaska girls in Fargo, were known as Doperone Twins. He may also be able to still impart ridiculous pieces of made-up bullshit to gullible strangers with a straight face, 'purely to generate a meme.'

Hastings massive: it sounds like for all the other weirdness, it was a good place to get an education, considering where people escaped to!

suzy (suzy), Friday, 10 March 2006 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link

He used to tell people that his folks were called Evelyn and Trevylan Smith . . .He may also be able to still impart ridiculous pieces of made-up bullshit to gullible strangers with a straight face, 'purely to generate a meme.'

He still does all this shit. It's just amazing. I want to grow up to be him so badly.

the sisters that wanted to meet/fuck all the instore guests, but were like punk versions of the Chaska girls in Fargo, were known as Doperone Twins.

tall? lanky hair? brunette? busty? First Ave regulars? I think I know these people.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 10 March 2006 10:57 (eighteen years ago) link

No, they had that German/Finnish big bones and boobs thing going, but they were medium height and from someplace icky like Brooklyn Center. I knew these exquisite, taller sisters, M!¢h3113 and @m¥ N@r¢1$$3 (girls from but not of Edina) where M was blonde and A was black-haired, but they were the v. arty girls who had to RUN AWAY from the same people.

The big difference between Rod Smith and all the other bears is that he was 'generating a meme' in 1985, and knew it.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 10 March 2006 11:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the sound of this man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

whoa i worked in an office with an older woman named 4pr1l N@r¢1$$3, wonder if there's a connection.

geoff (gcannon), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm still boggling that P3rry's getting married! When?

Dan (Tell Him Congrats) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Do any of the Eric Johnsons that you people know play trombone?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Geoff, I can't remember their mom's name but their dad was D413. It's just funny that the most beautiful girls in Minneapolis at the time had that particular surname.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link


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