Hellboy

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I've only read the Corpse promo thing, and I liked that.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago) link

I always loved Mignola's art but he's not a good writer.
Hellboy scores in terms of atmosphere and mood - which is down entirely to the art, perfect for this type of material - but, to me, always feels disappointingly flat as far as stories go. His dialogue is minimal and generally uninteresting, which means that his characters don't convince. Hellboy himself seems like a catchphrase-spouting cypher with much less real depth of character than the big icons of Marvel and DC (who, to be fair, have decades of development behind them, but then, Spiderman's character was apparent from one issue of Amazing Fantasy). Since his characters don't convince, I always find myself bored by the comics, because I simply don't care what happens. I look at the pretty pictures and enjoys them, and thats as far as it goes....

David Nolan (David N.), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 22:11 (twenty years ago) link

I take issue with the assertion that his characters don't convince (although the Conqueror Worm definitely suffers from the problems you describe). I'll try to come up with a cogent argument later.

Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:57 (twenty years ago) link

To address the more fannish parts of the thread (my steak and sizzle!):

Abe was underutilized especially in light of the level of his involvement in the comics. I agree that psychic-Abe was a strange twist that I didn't care for.

Agreed on the relatively weak ending, but considering the entire movie, I didn't mind. And the crown of fire gave me fanboy chills.

As for HB being Son of Satan... I won't say anything due to minor spoiler issues.

Jordan, I agree with you about how Mignola usually resolves his arcs e.g. HB invariably punches out the given bad guy -- which I actually appreciate, since it grounds itself fully in the mode of superhero comics (though distinct from spandex comics that feel the need to "elevate" its prose for the purpose of "literary" ends). HB blowing things up inspires pure action-oriented joy in me, that despite the foreboding ruminations on destiny and free will, the purpose of the series is visceral thrill i.e. FUN.

Leee O'Gaddy (Leee), Thursday, 8 April 2004 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
I have a sprained wrist but really want to talk about the Hellboy DVD:

1) Is this the first time a comic creator has contributed a commentary track to the movie based on his work, or did Jim O'Barr do one for The Crow? I was always disappointed Stan Lee didn't do one for Spider-Man.

2) What is the secret Hellboy-Gerald McBoing Boing connection? The DVD comes with like four GMcBB cartoons!

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Stan Lee probably couldn't remember his previous lies and was afraid of contradicting himself again.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Leee sez: Is this movie any good?

Spiderman 2 has overwhelmed my comics-movie brane and Hellboy has lost its appeal to me.

The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:15 (nineteen years ago) link

My DVD turned up this morning (the film doesn't open here for another couple of months) and it is the best comics movie evah. I can't wait to see it on the big screen.

(The weather outside is lovely, but I am staying in watching a movie, then the documentary on Disc 2. I am Comic Geek Of The Year.)

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Saturday, 7 August 2004 12:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Where do you live?

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 7 August 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Bristol. (In England, not CT)

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Saturday, 7 August 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
i just got "the chained coffin" cuz i saw it used for cheap (the other option was the john byrne one & i guess i'm glad i didn't go for that).

i like it! i think yeah it is a little light on the storytelling but the art is great & i really like the conceit of the stories being based on old folk tales and stuff.

(as far as the movie goes i loved the 1st half and then it went depressingly downhill)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 13 April 2006 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

(especially with that terrible "normal dude" character who joins the agency)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 13 April 2006 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I read the Strange Places TPB, and "Third Wish" is sooo much better than I remember from the floppies! Did Mignola make radical revisions to "TW"? I don't remember being as affected by it before. Also: his mermaids are hott!~

"The Island" doesn't fare quite as well -- still too talky with an awkwardly abrupt deus ex machina resolution.

c(''c) (Leee), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 22:03 (seventeen years ago) link

five years pass...

Wait, so is that it? Is it just over now?

Dan I., Thursday, 25 August 2011 06:06 (twelve years ago) link

seven years pass...

Trying to wrap my head around all the main titles being collected in 6 volumes. This is a great deal. Been hesitant a long time but I'm probably going to spring for this. Four volumes for the main story and two for the short stories. Not sure all covers are included.

Some people are saying the binding is very weak though.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 29 December 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link

Comixology had a sale on the digital editions just before Christmas so I sprung for volumes 3 and 4 (which should cover the things I don't have in floppies). Art is great but the writing seems a bit muddled for these later stories - he's picking bits from everywhere, Norse stuff, Russian stuff, Irish stuff, mashing it all together.

koogs, Saturday, 29 December 2018 11:53 (five years ago) link


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