Wynton = Punk!!!

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No, Wynton's even more of an aesthete Art-worshipper than the free dudes he hates so much. Those Bach records he made? The way he *talks* about older jazz? Dave, *you* might see his scorched-earth thing as denouncing the non-functional, but I doubt he would ever sully the Great Jazz of the Past with the word "function". Wynton is like a rock crit who denounces prog, but in so doing, props up the older stuff as unassailable. Not punk.

― Clarke B., Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Branford makes some good records. Really good, sometimes (like the last two).

― Jordan, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Going back to the subject: Yes, Wynton is a punk: a punk-ass bitch.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, I think the actual quote went something like this: interviewer says C. Taylor says people should come prepared to understand his music cuz he can't be bothered to meet them halfway, and then Branford sez blah blah blah because he's partly an entertainer and performer. Or something like that (really, see the transcripts).

― Josh, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

keyboard magazine compiled a book of interviews (keith emerson, keith jarrett etc.) and the last interview in the book was with Cecil who treated the interview like a fascist interrogation -- i think he's the one worth chasing up quotes of, or 'spoken word' or 'free speech' or 'poetry'

rec.music.bluenote (the jazz newsgroup) has almost kill-file policy on Wynton and various never-say-die brain-dead Lincoln-centric trolls, as set out in the group FAQ

remember "Born in the USA" Springsteen ? -- someone told me that the same a&r record co. man who masterminded that was the guy who originally took "neo-classical" or "real jazz" or "Wynton Marselis" to the marketplace and re-sold jazz (complete with Marselis in back then rare "the real shit" tv interview pointing out that Stravinsky was "a back-beat kind'a guy, dig ?")

that Wire magazine with that guy Byrne on the cover, didn't it have Cecil and Wynton in the same issue ? successive issues ?

― George Gosset, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

''I'm dreading the end of the series though. I'll be bracing myself for that quote about C Taylor.''

When they broadcast the series in the UK they took the stuff on Cecil. Did they have any footage? Damn the BBC!

In some ways its good they took Cecil out. If you're not gonna do both sides then you might as well not do it.

― Julio Desouza, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

sixteen years pass...

Going back to the subject: Yes, Wynton is a punk: a punk-ass bitch.

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, June 4, 2002 7:00 PM (sixteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

🙏

― Dan I., Sunday, 6 January 2019 03:54 (five years ago) link

namaste

― errang (rushomancy), Sunday, 6 January 2019 04:43 (five years ago) link

Damn, I really need to see that Ken Burns jazz doc. I’ve shied away from it all these years because Wynton is an ENORMOUS jazzist purist rock-hating asshole, but I think I’d warm up to it these days. I hate rock music too!

― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:31 (five years ago) link

Black Codes from the Underground is good

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 January 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link

This thread makes me want to listen to all six of the Marsalis Standard Time albums and maybe write about them.

― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 6 January 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link

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