Godflesh, God, Techno Animal, Jesu etc (S&D/CoD)

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Cuz it's overlong and a little bit uneven (it's still very good)?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Radio Hades and the Bug stuff are the only things I listen to much these days, but I still like Vs Reality. I can't remember the last time I put on Brotherhood of the Bomb though.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I own the following:

God, Possession
Techno Animal, Re-Entry
Godflesh, In All Languages, Pure, Streetcleaner
The Bug, Pressure

All recommended. Not recommended: Brotherhood Of The Bomb, that other Ice album, the Curse Of The Golden Vampire discs.

I wish I still owned Godflesh's Selfless and Love And Hate In Dub.

I'm a little uncertain about the Jesu disc. Haven't gotten my copy in the mail yet, but I'm not sure Broadrick has much to say anymore, either.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

The first Curse of the Golden Vampire disc is pretty good. The best God thing is the remix EP with the New Kingdom and Kevin Shields' remixes.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm with you on the last point, PDF, it does seem to have run its course in general. With you on all the recommendations above! I think most of the AMG God reviews are mine, I can't remember...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 February 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Man, I wanna hear this album... really liked the 'Heart Ache' EP, but then again, I haven't heard all of Broadrick's various projects, so I wouldn't really have a clue if he's repeating himself or not. Yeah, there's that familiar Godflesh sound, but also parts that sound like Coil or Codeine or MBV or whatever. It's good!

NickB (NickB), Friday, 4 February 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link

The Jesu album has leaked. Anyone heard it yet? I have heard it decsribed as shoegazy metal.

Based on the one track I've heard, that description is very OTM.

Vic Funk, Friday, 4 February 2005 12:24 (nineteen years ago) link

clips here: http://www.avalancheinc.co.uk/

i'm pretty much burnt out on him but he can still make good riffs.

eman (eman), Friday, 4 February 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I am intensely loving both the Jesu LP and EP, especially the EP, this really is him at his best IMO - yes it's a nod to his Selfless era shoegaze metal, without the screaming and more epic sensibility. And a return to the Alesis SR-16 drum machine, on the EP anyway.

I'm not really in love with any of that Kevin Martin related stuff, but I have always loved Final, Sidewinder, etc.

Damn I love that man. Isolation has always been his gig, but does a song name like "Friends are Evil" approach self-parody?

Crunk with Christ, Sunday, 6 February 2005 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link

the jesu sounds interesting from what i've read, but i'm weary of how the vocal approach is described. how does that aspect compare to godflesh? also by Justin Broadrick is his raggacore whatever you want to call it project Tech Level 2 (split 12" on shockout) which is just as good as Martin's Bug, in my opinion, and much better than the sidewinder stuff.
i'll also defend the curse of the golden vampire discs. not great, sure, but both have something to offer. the newer one (mars destruction) is the sort of thing to put on when you just want an angry album but are wanting something electronic too. reminds me of that thread about electronic metal. an interesting, but half-assed feeling mutation of grind/jungle, without veering into the geeky splatter/idm noise thing.
techno animal: i hate the rapping on the newer stuff. give me re-entry any day though, the second disc is one of my proverbial desert island picks. i can think of few albums that come close to the mastery of the beat/texture balance that this one does. of related interest are the marco dub infection discs, compiled by martin, that have great liner notes about dub history.

deru, Sunday, 6 February 2005 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link

"Macro Dub Infection Vol One" is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. I'll try not to let that put me off Martin/Broadrick overall, I guess.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 6 February 2005 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i can't really defend the macro dub infection disc, i sold my copy quite some time ago, but i like the liner notes. if i remember the disc was full of bland sub-illbient 'dub' that was quite prevelent in those mid-nineties. what came out of that scene has alot of merit it hink though: The Bug, Badawi, Spectre.
also, i like the later godflesh 'love and hate in dub' which i don't think anyone's mentioned.

deru, Sunday, 6 February 2005 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Ice - "Under The Skin" is a good Martin/Broadrick record except for Kevin Martin's vocals. i think i still have the first Scorn around somewhere, Broadrick played on that as well.

eman (eman), Sunday, 6 February 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link

The second Macro Dub Infection comp is miles better than the first one.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 6 February 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

The vocal approach is pretty much the same as Selfless, except with a heavier ratio of the sustained "sung" lines, and much more sparse and understated in general. It's a good move.

Crunk with Christ, Monday, 7 February 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

The Pathological comp.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 7 February 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link

S - The Bug "Killer" (Enduser Remix)

superultramega (superultramarinated), Monday, 7 February 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Macro Dub II somehow took an eclectic assortment of artists and smushed them into a mid-90's illbient soup (although I liked mid-90's illbient, so that's not a putdown).

Macro Dub I was the real deal -- an astounding assortment of artists and styles, and one of my favourite comps of the 90's.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 7 February 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Here's that Jesu track, "We All Faulter" off the full length. I think it's pretty great.

www.hydrahead.org/hh/mp3s/jesu_faulter.mp3

PiersT, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
i just heard "your path to divinity" from the jesu record and it's actually pretty damn good.

eman (eman), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 06:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I like what I've heard of Jesu. Reminds me of Godflesh meets Swervedriver or Mercury Rev or something. Anyone who was ever in Napalm Death is a scholar though. So we should expect nothing less than brilliance.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
The new Jesu EP is a lot different from the album. Vocals are far more upfront and some of the tracks are quite punchy.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 10 April 2006 09:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Godflesh -streetcleaner pretty good...track 1 'like rats' amazing

The Bug - no where nearly as good as I had hoped

grapple (grapple), Monday, 10 April 2006 10:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i love Techno Animal

latebloomer: someone's been drinking my youth! (latebloomer), Monday, 10 April 2006 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Streetcleaner rules, but I've never heard anything else by any of these bands.

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 10 April 2006 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link

The Jesu album is as good as anything he has ever done. It's essential.
Phil and Ned were way wrong upthread when they said Justin Broadrick had nothing else left to say!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 10 April 2006 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been listening to all the Bug "dancehall" stuff - Pressure, the Aktion Pak and Gun Disease EPs, and the 2CD Killing Sound set - for the last week or so. It just feels so good screeching and crashing into my skull on the early morning train ride into work.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 10 April 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Phil and Ned were way wrong upthread when they said Justin Broadrick had nothing else left to say!

That was before I heard the album courtesy of a friend. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 April 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Godflesh, were, regrettably, never as weird as I wanted them to be. I heard "Streetcleaner" on the Earache "GRINDCRUSHER" compilation, and it was far and away the best track on the whole awful record, what with the martial drum machine and weird, effects-addled vox. I ended up listening to various tracks off Streetcleaner, Pure, and Messiah, but found myself underwhelmed. I was really wanting them to be more like their post-rock contemporaries (is it really so strange? Bark Psychosis began life as a Napalm Death cover band...) and less like a slightly updated reading of early Swans. That's what I'm trying to get at, in a nutshell: less "Filth," more "Soundtracks for the Blind."

Never heard much else from the JKB side of post-Napalm Death stuff, though I have an abiding love for Lull/Scorn, but Jesu totally slayed me the first time I heard "We All Falter." Rest of the album is only slightly less majestic.

Makeshift Swahili, Monday, 10 April 2006 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link

The Jesu albu is good, but the track thats 8minutes long and sounds like mid-period Sigur Ros sticks in the craw a tad. But the metal plus shoegaze stuff is great, a really obvious concept that no-one has yet properly exploited... not heard the new EP yet, allegedly its a big shift in direction or something???

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 10 April 2006 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

the metal plus shoegaze stuff is great, a really obvious concept that no-one has yet properly exploited...

To be fair, though, he is hardly alone -- Isis were veering towards that realm some time back, Red Sparowes...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 April 2006 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm liking the Silver EP so far. Anyone who experiments with different sounds as much as Martin and Broadrick are bound to miss every once in a while, but it seems like they keep getting better with age.

S: Porter Ricks & Techno Animal - Symbiotics

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Monday, 10 April 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
the jesu album, to be honest, is something i find difficult to listen to: it's so airless and oppressive that it actually becomes quite an unsettling and discomfiting experience. that said, it also moved me in unexpected and powerful ways ... i think i'm just waiting for the right time/mood to listen to it again, but i'm not sure i want to think what that might be :o

the silver EP, however ... heard it for the first time today and it sounds like the music a) i was trying to make myself five or six years ago (and failing miserably), and b) i've been waiting half my life for someone else to make. absolutely astonishing; i can't get enough of it.

my awakening to metal/post-metal/etc is a relatively recent thing; as i've posted on other threads, it's entirely rooted in my love of slowdive and MBV et al all those years ago. i know absolutely sod all about godflesh or any of the other offshoots, but i'm intrigued: taking my love of "silver" as a starting point, what should i seek out next?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 3 July 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

the silver EP just seems easier to me - it's very pretty, almost comforting. The album, you're dead right, it's a demanding and suffocating thing, but I think it's really special like that - you kind of have to get inside of it. It is the most perfect driving music I know - it just systematically eliminates everything except itself from my perception.

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Monday, 3 July 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Grimly best Godlesh for you to start with might be Selfless. The 1st track especially. Thats the album i got into them with, I saw the review in either Melody maker, Raw or Kerrang and bought it from Our Price the day it came out.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 3 July 2006 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks, kerr: i shall do that.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 07:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Isis's first album sounds like how I always thought Godflesh should've sounded. Streetcleaner is pretty classic though.

latebloomer lives in a fucking castle that is so sweet (latebloomer), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 10:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Grimly, see if you can find the CD that has Selfless and the Merciless EP both on it. The EP's only four songs, but they're great, especially "Flowers."

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I still haven't heard the first Ice album. But i really like Bad Blood!
how does it compare with the first one?

Matthew OMalley (Matt-O), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 17:44 (seventeen years ago) link

so i bit the bullet and listened to the jesu album again today. it really is fucking outstanding, but CHRIST it hurts. it's the aural equivalent of sleep paralysis; heavy in such a suffocating and draining way. still, it is starting to cast an unholy spell over me. hurrah etc.

the EP just gets more and more awesome, though. what's the first EP (heart ache?) like?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

More like the 1st album.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I still haven't heard the first Ice album. But i really like Bad Blood! how does it compare with the first one?

doesn't really - the name is about the only thing they have in common. under the skin is more like a hybrid of godflesh and god, with a couple of longer tracks that actually get kind of funky. definitely worth hearing if you dig earlier god/flesh stuff.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 4 July 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Aquarius have 50 of the S/T Jesu pic disks and Hydrahead are due to start selling the non pre-order packages on the 25th I think.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 24 July 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Under the Skin is one of my all time favorite albums. I just listened to it for the first time in a year last night, and it hit the same spot it always has. I read somewhere where someone described it as almost krautrock on a few songs, and that makes sense to me. For me it ranks up there with the Loop albums, Skullflower's IIIrd Gatekeeper, God's Anatomy of Addiction, and Techno Animal's Re-Entry. It's so worth seeking out. Don't be put off by the first few songs. It isn't greatness until "Skyscraper" and onward. I think emusic still has it for cheap, but I could be wrong. I haven't been there in a while.

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
Godflesh is my next 'discovery' project. Jesu's Silver is magnificent, and HMV were stocking Neurosis and Isis as well in case I need to further my voyage into art-metal. Happy days.

Scourage (Haberdager), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Get all the Isis, Neurosis and Godflesh. You won't be disappointed!!!

The new remixed version of the Jesu - Jesu album, out on Pic Disk from Hydrahead is really great. Vocals are more upfront. I wouldn't be surprised if next year it gets a release on normal vinyl(probably on 5 colours too since it's HH) But if you can get the pic disk then do so. The quality is the best i've heard on a pic disk. As good as normal vinyl i'd say.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Can a mod add Jesu to the thread title to make searches easier? I'm sure alex wouldn't mind.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Done.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank you Ned.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Hehe I should've said add "Final" in there too. I haven't heard them yet. I should maybe check out their 2 cd on Neurot sometime.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

and the rest of terminus has pretty much grown on me already. great, stark slowcore record basically

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 January 2021 06:26 (three years ago) link

quickly becoming my favorite since conqueror

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 January 2021 06:31 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohFf0_q6q_A

just wonderful

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 January 2021 06:47 (three years ago) link

lol i cannot stop listening to the new jesu album, didn't see this one coming

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 14:55 (three years ago) link

The Greymachine disc (Broadrick, Diarmuid Dalton, Dave Cochrane and Aaron Turner) is really, really good. Super heavy in the vein of Ice's Under the Skin.

― unperson, Sunday, August 9, 2009 7:21 PM (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

greymachine are really good. i mentioned that in the metal thread but no one seemed to share my enthusiasm.

― borntohula, Monday, August 10, 2009 7:57 AM (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglink\\

the greymachine album is so evil

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 25 January 2021 19:09 (three years ago) link

genuinely terrifying. swans wishes. etc.

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link

jandek made a metal album it's called greymachine

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

no mention so far of the KM + JB collaboration from a couple of years ago under the Zonal moniker.
deep drones, and words by moor mother.
heavy stuff.

https://zonal.bandcamp.com/album/wrecked

mark e, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 11:45 (three years ago) link

That record is great, mark e, though sometimes I have to skip it when it comes on shuffle— very intense! But that's Camae's way.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Thursday, 28 January 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

i keep meaning to check out the zonal record!!!!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

this week i got really into jkb's dnb project tech level 2 lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-DmYeBlcCg

only a few singles from the early '00s (plus an EP he just released last year) but it's all good imo

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link

wow no one was joking about that greymachine album, truly malevolent energy

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 January 2021 16:57 (three years ago) link

I nommed the greymachine in that year's metal poll iirc and not many of us voted for it?

Had to do a decent length of run on the car today so took it with me and it's maybe better than I remember it being. Wasted in particular is immense.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 28 January 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link

Is greymachine not on streaming

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 28 January 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link

it isn't! weird. it's on bandcamp tho https://greymachine.bandcamp.com/album/disconnected

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Never thought I'd get to hear what God sounded like live again, damn this is a glorious racket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMXjIxNSam0

The Goodies font (Maresn3st), Sunday, 21 February 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link

Was I at this? I think so.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Sunday, 21 February 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

ive lost track of all of the identities he has that ive learned abt in the past couple months. how do people keep track lol

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 21 February 2021 19:17 (three years ago) link

This one just came up on shuffle— nice track, I like it much better than the original fwiw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MK_v1kIrec

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 22 February 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VCIUPsUgg4

Maresn3st, Sunday, 20 February 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link

Three years ago or so (pre-COVID) I had a brief exchange with Martin about putting together a CD box set gathering up all the God material. I think it probably would have been around five CDs, maybe six, but the rights would be a giant pain in the ass (multiple labels, many of which don't exist anymore) to negotiate and he didn't feel like it. Oh, well...

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 20 February 2022 22:41 (two years ago) link

Damn, that would be really cool.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 21 February 2022 00:44 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Relapse is reissuing Techno Animal's Re-Entry in September:

https://www.relapse.com/products/techno-animal-re-entry-2xcd

Also available as a 4LP set for $80:

https://www.relapse.com/products/techno-animal-re-entry-4x12

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 20 June 2023 15:25 (nine months ago) link

already on streaming, looks like

mh, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 02:41 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Picked up the digital copy of Re-Entry from Bandcamp. I still have my original CDs somewhere in a dusty Case Logic. I hope I didn't dispense with the iconic original art. I forgot how great this album is. I don't have a record player, but I'm tempted to by the 4LP set and the damn t-shirt.

beard papa, Thursday, 6 July 2023 17:14 (nine months ago) link

Listening to it got me listened to Ice's Under the Skin which I would kill for a remaster/reissue of. I would also love God's Possession and Anatomy of Addiction to remastered and released.

beard papa, Thursday, 6 July 2023 17:16 (nine months ago) link

I would also love God's Possession and Anatomy of Addiction to remastered and released.

I talked to Martin a few years ago about doing a God box but he wasn't interested. Too much hassle negotiating the rights, for too little reward.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 6 July 2023 18:33 (nine months ago) link

Yeah I was talking to him last year and he was firmly pushing the 'looking forward, never back' line.

Loco is the album with the most room for remastering I think but I'm not sure how good the original tapes are.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Thursday, 6 July 2023 19:59 (nine months ago) link

i have the orig cds and love the whole sound as per post i made a few years ago.
do i really need the remastered edition ?

mark e, Thursday, 6 July 2023 20:09 (nine months ago) link

four months pass...

terminus is actually the best album ever

ivy., Friday, 24 November 2023 06:07 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Remastered version of The Brotherhood of the Bomb coming out in February on vinyl and CD; digital available now:

https://technoanimal.bandcamp.com/album/the-brotherhood-of-the-bomb-2023-remaster

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 8 December 2023 16:10 (four months ago) link

Not as excited for that one. A few good songs on it, I guess.

beard papa, Saturday, 9 December 2023 04:14 (four months ago) link

Yeah, I don't love it myself. I really hope they reissue Ice's Under the Skin (and Bad Blood, I guess).

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Saturday, 9 December 2023 04:21 (four months ago) link


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