Exactly, I think the thing is that this record would sound just as now if it was released in 1985 or even 2005. This is a point that some writers have emphasized on the issues of unreleased sessions like Hill's Passing Ships.
That Blue Note back catalog is something else. You pick up a few, then you want to check out more and more and more, which only leads you to other records and artists.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Can we talk about the greatness of Andrew!!!?
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 2 November 2008 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link
you can't go wrong with andrew hill on blue note/
OUT THERE: Andrew!!!, Point of D, Compulsion!!
TRIO-PLUS: Judgement! Smokestack
HARD BOPPISH: Grass Roots, Pax, Dance With Death
EXPANDED ENSEMBLE: Passing Ships
i still need to hear his debut: Black Fire
― m coleman, Sunday, 2 November 2008 12:52 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, that's a great one. Listening to Andrew!!! last night, it occurred to me just how much he already had his shit together at/near the beginning of his recording career.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Sunday, 2 November 2008 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Smokestack is a motherfucker. One of the most compelling two-bass lineups ever to record.
― Sara Sara Sara, Monday, 3 November 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Black Fire = classic from the album cover inward.
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link
yes
― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link
(POD too, even though the art doesn't appeal to me as much. But what do I know?)
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I am really into Black Fire right now. The tunes are strong, and this is the first I have heard Hill in a quartet. There is a lot of space and he takes advantage. Roy Haynes' drumming on the first track reminds me of Tony Williams, which is to say that Tony didn't come from nowhere.
― Shh! It's NOT Me!, Monday, 1 December 2008 07:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Just got "Compulsion" for £2 in the HMV sale - BARGAIN is too small word to describe this, even with Caps Lock on
― It dreamed to Tom D. of the Caucasus (Tom D.), Monday, 23 August 2010 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link
while we're talking about albums that aren't "POD", i have to say, "passing ships" is one of the best, really
― uptown churl, Monday, 23 August 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Tom D, if you've never listened to Sun Ra's Other Planes of There, it's quite interesting to listen to alongside Compulsion, because at times Gilmore sounds like he's playing alternate versions of the same material. Even some of the rhythmic ideas on Compulsion strike me as similar to what's on Other Planes of There. (Not making any claims about influences though.)
Alas, I was never able to really get into Andrew Hill, including Point of Departure, which I really wanted to like. Compulsion I enjoy to some extent, but not so much more Hill's playing and composition.
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 23 August 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Innaresting. Have never really been able to get into "Point of Departure" either, but am really liking "Compulsion", did find myself thinking it reminded me of Sun Ra somewhat...
― It dreamed to Tom D. of the Caucasus (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Black Fire/Smoke Stack/Judgement/Point Of Departure/Andrew!!!/Compulsion
There is definitely some of kind of unusual talent and drive present when someone can seemingly bang out 6 extraordinary masterworks like these in a mere 2 year period. M Coleman and Timi Yuru upthread from years ago are both absolutely otm.
― xelab, Sunday, 25 October 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link
dance with death owns
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Thursday, 16 March 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link