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yeah I'd say that the more one listens to EHG, the more actual ROCK you hear: the dread is sort of a sandbag against, ummm, the possibility of gaining listeners. Last time I listened to Dopesick it struck me as downright groovy.

As to that newest Today Is The Day, it really doesn't sound like anything to me: so completely of-itself. Maybe it reminds me a little of some o' those rockin'-er bands in the artsy-industrial English scene in the early eighties (i.e., trying to fuse anguished screaming with elegant piano sounds over a backdrop of skreeeeeech), but only a little. It's also very difficult to get through: I listened to it twice, was really impressed, and am now kind of afraid of it.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 12:42 (twenty years ago) link

Last time I listened to Dopesick it struck me as downright groovy.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Every now and again (esp on Confederacy of Ruined Lives) they hit this patch of Allman Brothers boogie--only for a little while before it is sucked back down into murk and "sludge."

To bring this back to Mastodon: Mastodon are completely fucking great live. The tour with Dillinger Escape Plan was very cool especially as Mastodon blew DEP off the stage--perhaps a dangerous idea now that DEP has that meathead frat guy for a singer.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 18:44 (twenty years ago) link

If you ever see EHG live, a lot of what they're all about becomes really clear: Jimmy Bowers, the guitarist, sees no difference between sludge & boogie, or at least believes them to be halves of the same coin: he smiles a lot at the audience, is visibly groovin' behind his feel-shitty riffs, and so on. Meanwhile, the singer, Michael Williams, is nihilism personified, having a much more mean-spirited version of fun. Totally thrilling, genuinely frightening.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

seven months pass...
i just got _remission_ - omg. omg. omg.

OMG. finally i have something to put on when i've already listened to _surrounded by thieves_ 3 times in a day.

(haven't watched the DVD yet, though.)

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:26 (twenty years ago) link

bumbumWHOMaragagarag

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

I'm going to see Mastodon in less than two weeks! I'll get to see that pointy-bearded devil-singer up close. Sort of reminds me of Abe Lincoln too from the side - with a pointy devil-beard.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 10 January 2004 19:44 (twenty years ago) link

I was just listening to Remission this afternoon, what a coinky-dink!
I love the Jurassic Park sample the album starts off with. Classic.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 11 January 2004 09:30 (twenty years ago) link

I'm so glad people are finally getting around to praising this band. Most of Remission is pure genius (and Lifesblood is killer too).

Maybe Mastodon will help crusty rock critic types to give other 'creative' metal bands a chance - Lamb of God, people!!!!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 11 January 2004 18:54 (twenty years ago) link

Mastodon is pure genius indeed. Theyre all so talented together. I can't wait until their next record comes out. I think it'll blow Remission away. I think they'll just keep getting better and better. Remission sounds like they were really starting to find their own great thing and I can't wait to hear where it'll go next.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Sunday, 11 January 2004 19:35 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
I'm finally hearing this album and it is loud and frenetic. Always a good sign.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:11 (twenty years ago) link

I think I've said this before, but a band that starts off their album with a sample from Jurassic Park and then segues into a massive metal riff has got to be cool.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:57 (twenty years ago) link

Is that what that was at the start? I've only seen the movie once and even then it was about half of it and I was more laughing at the UNIX system reference.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:01 (twenty years ago) link

It's from the "t-rex attacking the ford explorers in the rain" scene.

That's true that movie portrayals of computers are almost always ludicrously inaccurate (at least they always used to be before almost everyone had internet access). I was watching Weird Science on Comedy Central today and thinking the same thing.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

I saw Mastodon live a few weeks back. I was a fan before but I left knowing that I can expect some good shit on their new album this Fall. They rocked balls live.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:08 (twenty years ago) link

five months pass...
New Mastodon and DEP albums have leaked. All over slsk.

Rock Bastard, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, the new DEP is in stores, so it hasn't exactly "leaked."

I have been informed that a copy of the new Mastodon is on its way to me. Can't wait.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Same here, and I should be interviewing them for an upcoming issue of Loose Lips Sink Ships.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

http://shop.relapse.com/dbimages/sleeves/6682_216.jpg

They blew it. No sludge, no doom, no Crusher/Destroyer, no incredible listen-to-the-drummer-play-fills-during-the-entire-fucking-album. Just a lot of cheap Maiden and Slayer imitations.

This is like Cave In following up Jupiter with Antenna.

I'm so bummed right now.

harshaw (jube), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmmm. I will reserve judgment until hearing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

At first I thought that cover was amazing, but after 4 seconds of looking at it, I HATE IT.

I really wanna hear this.

Mastadon LIVE trumps Mastadon recorded, FWIW.

ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

"listen-to-the-drummer-play-fills-during-the-entire-fucking-album"

wait, how could they stop this? :(

cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I admit that worries me a bit, I thought the whole idea was that the drummer really wanted to create a strong but also distinct sound, very much in a prog vein.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link

my first reaction: IS this the new mastodon? the vocals don't sound right, the guitars are kind of lacking low-end (doom/sludge). drums seem pretty similar to "remission" but simplified during the more straightforward riffs, they're a bit higher in the mix.

(most of this could change by the time the record comes out - who knows if this is the final mix?)

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

ddb otm re. cover

jess, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Considering the album is indeed supposed to be a retelling of Moby Dick, I figured nothing yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Heh heh. Nothing LESS. But nothing Yes also works.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it's a great album actually. It is less sludgy but hardly a sell out. I don't like bands making the same albums twice anyway.

Ramon D, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah I'm not trying to lay down the official verdict, or anything. I was looking forward to the new album and think its really a bland effort to mainstream their sound. Whatever, they don't owe me anything.

Wait does that sound too pissy?

harshaw (jube), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 05:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Got this in the mail today, along with two T-shirts (Agoraphobic Nosebleed and Relapse Records). Can't listen to it, though, because it's copy protected. Guess I'll check it out at home tonight.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link

what is this called?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Leviathan

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link

you guys are crazy! I really like this one. So far....(I'm 2 tracks in)

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, i see what you're saying - it's way different. Brann Dailor's drums are maybe not as over the top as before. But the songs are good! I'm totally psyched to jam this one in the car. Don't you people drive??

I think it's interesting how up-front the vox are compared to the other two records - dude seems to be cultivating a Phil-Anselmo-in-Superjoint-guise thing, which is welcome as far as I'm concerned

I wanna see 'em live

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I really dig this, too. I think cleaning up their sound, and making it less monolithic with more separation, is a major improvement. I gotta give it a few more listens before writing a review, and then I'm gonna dive headfirst into the new Necrophagist CD, which came in today's mail.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
I got Leviathan the other day and listened to it once. It SOUNDS great (if homogenous), and the drummer is awesome, but I was just not moved by all the riffage. It didn't stick. It's not you, metal, it's me.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I look at it like this: Remission had "Crusher Destroyer" and "March of the Fire Ants" which are simply untouchable but some of the other tracks, while featuring awesome riffage, really start to drag after a while. Leviathan keeps my attention much better and while it never reaches Remission's highs, it holds a higher standard over the course of the album. Anyone else feel this way?

reed (smile), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Agreed Reed. Leviathan is the better album as a awhole. But it doesn't have all the totally mind-blowing moments of Remission. I think Seabeast is perfect though. That intro really feels like being out on the ocean. And the 7th one is amazing too. I like the vocals on the new one a lot. Everyone go see them live if you haven't already.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I wish john had posted his thoughts on leviathan here. I was looking forward to that since the start of this thread.
If you're lurking around john , Happy New Year!

Rock Bastard, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 05:44 (nineteen years ago) link

envious of anyone in japan in february. mastodon,converge & ISIS for three dates there.

william (william), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:54 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Idolator linked to this story about Brent Hinds being assaulted and hospitalized -- what the fuck?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Sounds as though he has a really bad injury. Hope it's not as serious as it sounds.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

:(

WTF? Horrible news.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

That's fucked up.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Saw them this summer. March Of The Fire Ants works even better when they play the main riff with their guitars behind their heads.

Too bad about Brent.. Hope everything works out.

MRZBW, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Interesting article in the new RS titled "Head Injury Inspires New Melodic Mastodon Album: With Brendan O'Brien on board, the headbangers craft "classic rock" sound"

Brent Hinds was attacked and cracked his head open during a drunken altercation following the MTV VMAs. He suffered brain hemorrhaging, then was plagued by vertigo for eight months. He said he wrote the music for the next album during that time with his acoustic guitar and some marijuana. "I wanted a more melodic, easy-listening situation, and definitely came from having head trauma."

If that isn't a Spinal Tap worthy quote, I don't know what is!

Brann Dailor confirms they want to make a broader, "classic-rock-sounding record." They met their producer backstage at a Bruce Springsteen concert of all places.

The article mentions three of the album's seven songs -- "Quintessence" with spacey synthesizers and vocal harmonies, "Divinations" that comes on like Master Of Puppets era Metallica but with soaring vocals and a bright chorus, and "Oblivion," a sinister, multitempo prog-metal epic with a bluesy guitar solo.

It will continue the elements theme, exploring air, ghosts and the ethereal world. The group has talked about eventually combining the releases into a box set called The Elements, heh.

So, lots of openings there to talk about shark-jumping and whatnot. However, I'm just glad they won't be repeating themselves. Hopefully it'll be great.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link

He got a kicking the other week there too.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:29 (fifteen years ago) link

tales from topographic...

REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

He exhibits many hallmarks of being an absolute prick. I'll still look forward to this - even if it's bad I don't think it'll qualify as shark jumping as Blood Mountain was so great it wouldn't really represent a downward curve, if you get me

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought Blood Mountain was great, So I am looking forward to this. Remission is my favourite but there's no point in trying to remake it when simply it couldn't be as good.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought Blood Mountain was terrible, so I expect listening to this will be like actually receiving head trauma.

What's good for Wall Street (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

been revisiting mastodon 2.0 in light of the new record. i forgot how much i loved "stargasm" and "octopus has no friends"

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 6 November 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link

I really like the new album

Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Saturday, 6 November 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link

as an extremely casual mastodon fan - this felt like a masterpiece, after one listen today.

DT, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 04:40 (two years ago) link

i feel like i didn't sit with emperor of sand long enough when it came out... what an accomplished record, especially the second half. also "show yourself" is about as awesome as a capital-S Single from this band could sound, i love all the riffs in the bridge

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

once more 'round the sun was also even more awesome than i remembered it being, and made me think i should be more careful about claiming the new one as the best since crack the skye. kinda wish i had another extremely psychedelic and hilarious mastodon record

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link

I still think the new one is the best since CTS, but I did also love Emperor of Sand. I need to revisit Sun again soon, but I can't stop going through the new one.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link

Hearing Crack the Skye comparisons validates my thoughts lol. Sad I didn't see them at Coachella that year, or live at all until 2018.

I was definitely more a Lamb of God fan in the past - didn't quite get the Leviathan hype, though I bought Blood Mountain on CD with all the hype surrounding it.

DT, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link

I've only seen them live twice, the last time was when they toured with Opeth, but they were incredible both times. I really need to try to catch them again.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

also if anyone like me slept on the cold dark place ep... stop sleeping

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

hard to believe any of those songs didn't make their respective albums

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link

it's going to take a while for me to gather my thoughts on this one but first impression is very positive. This may be their best sounding album, the mix is very clear as opposed to the murk of Emperor of Sand. They seem to be really going for it performance-wise, with a welcome return to higher tempos and wild riffing, as opposed to the kind of lumbering mid-tempo stuff they often get bogged down in.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link

wow, Pitchfork really hated this, huh? wtf?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link

ok, after listening to pretty much every mastodon album, the new one sounds even… more impressive? every part of “pain with an anchor” deeply rocks. feeling like “masterpiece” is otm

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link

My current ranking: Leviathan > Crack the Skye > Emperor of Sand > Hushed & Grim > Once More 'Round the Sun > Blood Mountain > The Hunter > Remission

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link

Not a bad ranking at all, but I'd flip it a little:

Leviathan > Crack the Sky > Blood Mountain > Hushed > Emperor > Remission > Hunter > Sun

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

crack the skye
hushed and grim
blood mountain
leviathan
once more ‘round the sun
remission
emperor of sand
the hunter

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link

Still digging this!

Also excited to hear what Brent cooks up in his new project with Matt Pike, supposedly a single and video due out before the end of the year. Read a thing that said Brent held back some songs from this Mastodon record for the Pike project, but not sure if that's just because they didn't really fit here or what. Not going to link to the article I read since it also includes Brent dropping a homophobic slur while he's trashing other bands they've toured with.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 November 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFJisKSY2SY

video would've been better if they'd just done the numbers straight without the interviews - but playing at the Georgia Aquarium would be on my Mount Rushmore of unattainable performance venues.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 5 December 2021 06:48 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

I wrote a long piece about Hushed and Grim and how Covid-19 has killed the album cycle.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

Great piece, glad to see some more love for that record. I was really surprised at the muted reaction to one of their best.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link

they just announced upcoming tour dates, I'm probably going to see them when they get to Austin in August

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 15:23 (one year ago) link

very nice writing, unperson. I hope this album gets more recognition, it's one of their best.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

I found it a slog the one time I listened to it, perhaps I wasn't in the right frame of mind. There seemed to be barely any variation in mood.

chap, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

The band just released a full-on 90 minute documentary on the making of their new one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rgi5C0JbRs

I have not watched it yet so I cannot rep for it but I will probably have it play in the background one day when I am working sometime.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 26 August 2022 02:02 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

"It’s also facing new competition from established names: Meta has said it’s working on its own decentralized social network, code-named P92, which will reportedly connect to ActivityPub. And Twitter’s co-founder and former CEO Jack Dorsey is getting ready to unveil Bluesky, a decentralized social media app that will come with a new protocol of its own."

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/apr/18/mastodon-users-twitter-elon-musk-social-media

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 09:57 (one year ago) link

Lol no

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 10:02 (one year ago) link

lol

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 10:27 (one year ago) link

no shade on the app, but let's not shit up this beautiful thread with this stuff

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link

I haven't a chord from this group and I apologise (posted this in the ILE thread)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

An easy mistake to make.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Revisiting Hushed and Grim for the first time in awhile, it's fucking fantastic. I think it'll stand up as one of the band's best. Doesn't hurt that it ends with an absolutely incredible run - "Gobblers of Dregs", "Eyes of Serpents" and "Gigantium" are all so good.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:27 (eleven months ago) link

it's a good one for sure. My only complaint as always is that they should let Brent Hinds sing more. He doesn't have quite as powerful a voice as the other 2 but he sounds cooler. I get burned out on Troy Sanders constant bellowing and Brann Dailor is a bit bland.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:49 (eleven months ago) link

Brann barely sang at all on the first bunch of records and now he's all over the newer ones.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:53 (eleven months ago) link

agreed, it is fantastic.
out of a random urge, i listened to disc 1 earlier.
absolutely hit the spot.

mark e, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:59 (eleven months ago) link


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