― Tag, Friday, 22 November 2002 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
Miss Kittin does some producing.
Meat Katie for breaks.
Making electronic music is often a lonely and anti-social process, no other band members, much less interaction with your audience. It's not just that it puts off a lot of women, but is does seem to attract a particular kind of boy (yes, boy, not man)
― Anna (Anna), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
Anna, I am insulted.
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
i think kate is actually onto something in that boys are often brought up to believe its 'correct' for them to be interested in technology and want to sit in their bedrooms on their computers whereas this doesnt seem to happen with girls by and large
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― original bgm, Friday, 22 November 2002 17:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
nabisco makes a fair point - there are many female renegades in electronic music, but out of the ones she listed Peaches is the only one having any kind of modcium of commercial success...so the issue becomes more why cant women in electronic music be perceived as a commercially viable thing?
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
I didn't mean it as an absolute statement, honest. Just, generally ... anyway, you're only 25, don't sell your youth down the river young man.
NABISCO IS A SAD AND ISOLATED LOOSER!
*runs and hides, ha!*
― Anna (Anna), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
The nature vs nurture debate starts now!
― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
eh?
blueski, she co-produced post, homogenic and did most of vespertine herself. talk to ANY of her collaborators and they'll tell you she has extremely well-defined ideas as to how she wants the music to sound; if anything, her weakness is as an engineer, NOT as a producer/musician.
an across-the-board first impression consensus from collaborators past and present is that she's much more involved (ie. in terms of sheer detail -> the 'musician' bits) than they ever would have expected. (i mean, bear in mind she attended the reykjavik music conservatory from 5 to 15 and has been recording since 11.) so to dimiss her perceived input as on par with beyonce or madonna (onetime professional bjork piggybacker!) is a tad dismissive, and probably reflective of the bjork as kook mentality that she's admittedly brought upon herself...
― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
All her albums sound like her and it's not just because of the voice. I've seen her on TV programming a laptop and using and SU10. I think she can probably writes scores to an extent.
No ones mentioned Nic Endo so far who does (or did) a lot of stuff for ATR, live she must be making 50% of the sound. I've seen Alec Empire with and without her and without her he was rubbish. Her replacement on that occasion was a man. Nic also has sole albums.
Le Tigre are fantastic!!!
How much does Missy Elliot do? She's usually credited with co-production I think, but it seems easy to assume she does the words and Timbaland the bleeps. Does she make the music too?
― meirion john lewis (mei), Friday, 22 November 2002 19:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Friday, 22 November 2002 19:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Omar, Friday, 22 November 2002 19:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― locus solus, Friday, 22 November 2002 19:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevo (stevo), Friday, 22 November 2002 20:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Honda (Honda), Friday, 22 November 2002 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 21:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― s magnet, Friday, 22 November 2002 21:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Leee (Leee), Friday, 22 November 2002 22:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.sparkleproductions.freeserve.co.uk/djshardhousetechno.html
Siegbran or Steve have you ever seen Phil Reyonds play a set? What do you think of him?
― Kiwi, Saturday, 23 November 2002 00:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dsico (dsico), Saturday, 23 November 2002 06:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 23 November 2002 08:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
vicky from people like us
and.... the godmother of the whole shebang - bebe barron!
― stirmonster, Saturday, 23 November 2002 08:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 November 2002 12:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Honda (Honda), Saturday, 23 November 2002 12:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 November 2002 12:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom & Ed, Saturday, 23 November 2002 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 23 November 2002 18:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Saturday, 23 November 2002 19:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 23 November 2002 22:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 23 November 2002 22:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N0RM4N PH4Y, Saturday, 23 November 2002 22:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 23 November 2002 23:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― bob zemko (bob), Saturday, 23 November 2002 23:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 23 November 2002 23:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
indeed! plus claire is completely gorgeous too, which doesn't change my enjoyment of the music, but i just thought i'd mention.
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 25 November 2002 00:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Leee (Leee), Monday, 25 November 2002 00:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― bob snoom, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 11:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
kelli (i spelled it wrong before) hand is a detroit techno producer, records as k. hand, you might know "ready for the darkness" or "global warning", runs acacia records.
― michael wells (michael w.), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 11:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 14:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 04:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
>Squarepusher doing practically EVERYTHING himself for >example, and i think it would be a really cool thing to see >someone that just so happens to be a woman working along >the same lines, making similar music
of course there are many women who do this. OF COURSE.
I do, Kevin Blechdom does, Peope Like Us does, there's plenty.
and of course when and if the world becomes a more enlightened place, there will be more women who do so. dude.
no one's opinion means anything!!!
Blevin Blectum
― blevin blectum, Wednesday, 18 December 2002 00:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― t\'\'t (t''t), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 10:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
Um?
― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 10:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 6 January 2003 19:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
Oh yeah and willow, who has been mentioned. She's the best
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 1 September 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link
Nightwavehttps://soundcloud.com/nightwave808/nightwave-wavejumper-fools-gold-records
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 1 September 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link
been enjoying a bunch of amelie lens, sama and charlotte de witte sets recently
― ||||||||, Saturday, 29 February 2020 10:16 (four years ago) link
enjoyed chloé lula's set on hör berlin yt too (which looks like it was recorded in a toilet? iunno)
― ||||||||, Saturday, 29 February 2020 10:18 (four years ago) link
Wow this thread sure tells a story
― Jeff W, Saturday, 29 February 2020 10:45 (four years ago) link
yea a very bad one. the op ... jfc
― marcos, Saturday, 29 February 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link
whoa, this thread started back when blevin and jon l were in a band together ...
― sarahell, Sunday, 1 March 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link
and when i used to book their band on the reg
― sarahell, Sunday, 1 March 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link
what the heck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Padberg
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 21 May 2020 06:01 (three years ago) link
Fortran!
― sarahell, Thursday, 21 May 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link
Fortran Hero
― come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 May 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
so rad
― COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 May 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link
https://github.com/bgenchel/PyPadberg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OAqEgHpR3k
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1907.04470.pdf
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 21 May 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link
remember last year when nina kraviz was racist and k. hand went to bat for her on twitter? that was weird
― crystal-brained yogahead (map), Friday, 22 May 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/news/pauline-anna-strom-dead-at-74/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Anna_Strom
― koogs, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 13:29 (three years ago) link
New BBC Culture article on women composers: Oksana Linde and the forgotten pioneers of electronic music
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 30 May 2022 09:06 (one year ago) link
waiting for another Karen Gwyer, hoped this thread bump would be that!
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 30 May 2022 09:08 (one year ago) link
also my god that aya record im hole is outstanding
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 30 May 2022 09:09 (one year ago) link
[MOD NOTE: TRANSPHOBIC BULLSHIT REDACTED]
― xzanfar, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link
what the fuck are you talking about, get the fuck out of here.
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 02:24 (one year ago) link
Uh. Yeah can we not be transphobic please.
― brisk money (lukas), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 05:31 (one year ago) link
if that fucking dickhead isn't perma-banned very fast I'm going to be having words
― calzino, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 05:52 (one year ago) link
"Barging into this thread only to say that I wish both Solex and Mira Calix would release more albums (yes I know they're still working, but still)"
Alas Mira Calix passed away in March. I remember liking Skimskitta but I always wondered if she was a pseudonym for someone else on Warp. It turns out that she helped keep the label running in the background, which is why she had such a spartan discography. I was going to say "she was the only woman on the Artificial Intelligence compilations" but she wasn't actually on the Artificial Intelligence compilations. She was on Blech II.
Radio 3 did a tribute, now sadly unavailable:https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0015v5h
Just for fun I remember going through the roster of Mille Plateaux Records and City Centre Offices and and Fax Records and counting all of the female musicians and "not British, German, or Japanese" musicians, and giving up because there weren't any. Which is probably true of any cross-section of heavy metal labels, but this music was supposed to be progressive.
It struck me as a kid that literally all of the acts on the European Warp equivalents* etc were male twentysomething graphic design students who spent their lives flying between Tokyo, Berlin, and London, which I suppose was a kind of wish-fulfillment fantasy if you were a teenager back then but ye gods a lot of that music is generic and indistinguishable from itself nowadays.
* Warp itself has working-class people, so it doesn't quite count.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link
Sky Arts showed Sisters With Transistors on friday which was a good watch, all the early female pioneers in original footage. (everything else they showed is being repeated throughout the week but i can't see a repeat for this before friday)
couple of new names to me: clara rockmore and maryanne amacher, the latter of who wins for noticeably scaring thurston moore.
― koogs, Monday, 15 August 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link
(although both are mentioned upthead)
― koogs, Monday, 15 August 2022 13:46 (one year ago) link
I’m sure I used to “play out” Amacher’s ear dances at our old Greenwich gatherings, koogs. Good way to clear the room at the end of the evening.
― Michael Jones, Monday, 15 August 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link
oh and there is a new Karen Gwyer! It’s under Karen Lee Gwyer on Bandcamp. Solid albeit nothing startling.
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 15 August 2022 13:56 (one year ago) link
I feckin' missed most of it because I was watching Match of the Day!
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Monday, 15 August 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link
had a look in programme guide and listings for a repeat of the Sisters with Transistors and can't see one 8(
if you can remember the old Greenwich gatherings you weren't really there. or you left early to get back to the other side of london before the rave music started.
― koogs, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 12:42 (one year ago) link
https://archive.org/details/delia.-derbyshire.-the.-myths.and.the.-legendary.-tapes
This is the only way I can find to watch the Cosey Fanni Tutti Delia Derbyshire movie since it left the BBC site
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 29 September 2022 07:23 (one year ago) link
FWIW, there's a 1080p encoding easily found on the dark net.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 October 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link
Sisters with Transistors is repeated tonight on sky arts, Freeview ch11, 00:40
― koogs, Saturday, 14 October 2023 11:59 (six months ago) link
should be earlier imo but they are busy with Floyd, byrds, Stevie Nick's and numnah from 18:00
― koogs, Saturday, 14 October 2023 12:01 (six months ago) link
(numan)