Was it worth it to buy "NYC Ghosts + Flowers" new for $3

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Free City Rhymes
nyc ghosts & flowers
renegade princess
and Small flowers crack concrete

i think thay're all brill,ace,fantastic
was aspecially blown when first hearing the "nyc ghosts & flowers"
track.
now isn't it the most underrated album of 2000 or even of this whole decade so far?

this record is really underrated. outside of some sort of embarrassing lyrics (even by embarrassing kim g. lyrics standards the boys go to jupiter thing is bad), it's really a gorgeous sprawl...

As years and years go by, this album keeps growing on me. Even beyond Free City Rhymes, which is my pick for their last great song. The lyric thing kind of wears off after time, and I've never had a problem with Jupiter/stupider. At some point there should be a deluxe version and the inevitable critical reappraisal. Playing the end of renegade princess at the moment, which almost sounds like a throwback to Bad Moon Rising (good thing). At the very least, the final time they seemed to be taking any real chances/doing anything particular unpredictable.

fuck yeah. it features rafael toral, even

a few 'karen revisted' -type outros on this album, loose and sprawl-y

the worst thing about this record is the cover art which is cheap and lame looking

inevitable critical reappraisal

Brent Dicrescenzo has already reappraised it: http://www.timeout.com/chicago/things-to-do/i-gave-sonic-youth-a-0-0-rating-on-pitchfork

I'm a little ambivalent about this album. I think it displays great ideas that are not always fully realized (or that are sometimes bogged down by crappy poetry:P). I agree that it seems like the last time they really challenged themselves, in this case by trying to integrate ideas from out improv and the avant-garde electronica of that time into their songs. The way they played with polymetre in "Free City Rhymes" was pretty unique for them, and in some ways more challenging than what they did on "Rain on Tin", which I also love. I'd still rank that as one of their best songs.

Ha, just put it on, loved FCR, and turned it off partway through "Renegade Princess".

boys go to jupiter to get more stupider

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this show is unbelievably good: https://sonicyouth.bandcamp.com/album/perspectives-musicales-live-at-cats-cradle-2000

It really is but... you could easily download the decent-sounding boot for free even about a month ago. (I think it was you who shared it here?) I imagine the sound is better on this but it would have to be pretty pristine to justify paying $14 USD. A lot of these live shows they're releasing officially now really are great but I'm having trouble swallowing how much they are charging.

this album is good

oh FUCK-- I had no idea SY put out a board copy of the Cat's Cradle show. Incredible

OK, this is pretty pristine tbf.

Jonathan never told us whether it was worth it.

lee and steve need some kind of cashflow after thurston fucked up their solid retirement gig!

Seriously tho