What is the correct onomotopaeic spelling of the Law & Order sound?

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haven't any of you people seen the USA Network promo where several cast members talk about the sound, and it's spelled as "doink doink"?

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

DANN DANN

gff, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

(it were florek who said 'it's the doink doink')

gff, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:09 (sixteen years ago) link

but then there's this:

Kitt: What's the official name of that sound?
Mike Post: The ching.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/59/Iching-hexagram-64.png
Hexagram 64 is named 未濟 (wei4 ji4), "Not Yet Fording". Other variations include "before completion" and "not yet completed". Its inner trigram is ☵ (坎 kan3) gorge = (水) water, and its outer trigram is ☲ (離 li2) radiance = (火) fire.

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Besides a synthesizer, what instrument would make this noise? I picture something hollow and thick, almost like something made of animal horn or wood, but really large, struck in a big echo-y room.

Jesse, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

from the same Mike Post thing I just quoted: "I found a sample of a jail door closing, and I put it with a couple of little other sounds, and made this ching-ching thing."

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

DUNG DUNG

-- n/a, Friday, October 26, 2007 11:16 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

deej, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I picture something hollow and thick, almost like something made of animal horn or wood, but really large, struck in a big echo-y room.

Like a...gavel?

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, wait, it's not just a gavel, it's also a cell door slamming shut!

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

and monks stomping on a floor

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

seriously there are people who thought that was a gavel?

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

are you deaf?

El Tomboto, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Belzer calls it a gavel in the USA promo.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Belzer's deaf, tho.

HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

BADONKADONK

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Not like a gavel, no. Unless it is a gigantic, hollow, sonorous gavel.

Jesse, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Processed gavel sound, yes.

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Recorded up close but then mixed with a 'cathedral' setting.

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

gavel: chopped and screwed

HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I think there's a gavel in there and then a synth line added to go with it.

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

to all those who say it is a gavel, I say:

RONG RONG

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

DUNG DUNG

J0rdan S., Friday, 26 October 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Belzer calls it a gavel in the USA promo.

-- Alex in Baltimore, Friday, October 26, 2007 1:31 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

it was originally a gavel but the 9/11 commission in league with the vatican and the rand corporation covered it up & made it a jail door

and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

for the record, it's the sound of Det. Eliot Stabler slamming a child rapists' face twice into the table of the interrogation room.

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^^^ someone put that to a bangin' techno beat plz

HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

it's the sound Yoshi's tongue makes in Super Mario World.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

BAN BAN

and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

special poppage unit

and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

l&o virginal intent

and what, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Even though it is my own fault that my brain has made a link between Mariska Hargitay and Yoshi's tongue, I am still mad at you, Alex.

HI DERE, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

good Lord people it's CHUNG CHUNG, I thought you had to answer this question correctly before they give you a driver's license in most states

J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

All options here seem to suggest that it's the same sound both times! But there's a total difference in what MIDI would call, umm, velocity.

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, it's got the same phrasing as "ch-ching," if instead of "ching" the root were "dung."

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

This is my compy's "you f'ed up" sound. DUNG DUNG.

I just watched one last night about a writer in some blackmail circle, was surprisingly good. Second ep I've ever seen and fuck if I need another TV show to zone out to but there it is.

Abbott, Friday, 26 October 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

nabisco, sorry, but the metrical rhythm of this sound is definitely spondaic, not iambic

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

QONG QONG

doesn't this sound out as "chung chung" in pinyin?

gff, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I think you have that backwards elmo - "ch-ching" would be short-long/unstressed-stressed, in the theme the second beat is harder/longer = it's an iamb

J0hn D., Friday, 26 October 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

You're right, Elmo, I'm remembering it backwards.

It's almost like a long delay/echo that's been truncated to just two sounds: DUNG-Dung (dung dung dung dung...)

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

!!!! CONFUSION

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

you're a dactyl

remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

also john and tokyo rosemary are right: it's CHUNG CHUNG.

remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link

J0hn I think Elmo's right! First one shorter but more stressed: DA-dunnng

nabisco, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link

doesn't this sound out as "chung chung" in pinyin?

Not quite. QENG QENG would be closer to "chung chung."

jaymc, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link

there's absolutely nothing resembling a hard "ch-" sound in it.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

no no! both beats have the same emphasis! SPONDEE.

elmo argonaut, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_&_Order#The_card.2C_and_the_sound

This is accompanied by a tone, which has been described as a "DUN dun" or "thunk thunk" sound. It was originally developed to sound like a barred door in a jail cell slamming shut (Law). In promos for Law & Order: Special Victims Unit reruns on the USA Network, actor Dann Florek refers to the sound as the "doink doink"[9], while Richard Belzer refers to it as the sound of a judge's gavel. According to IMDb.com, it "was created by combining close to a dozen sounds, including that of a group of monks stamping on a floor."

Tomboto was right.

Eazy, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

i'd call it KUNG KUNG tbh

gff, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

both beats have the same emphasis, elmo's right. it's just that first one's overwritten by the attack of the second one, which is allowed a slow decay.

remy bean, Friday, 26 October 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

UPDATE: It had not occurred to me that they have variations on the signature sound, from the low dunk-dunk to the high ch-chhhh. But if you go by the repeating-sound gag in this YouTube clip

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5xM2XY4h-70

the first iteration is very clearly way more accented -- in the single-echo way I was talking about upthread.

nabisco, Saturday, 27 October 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

AND if you listen at the beginning of this clip, you will notice the second one seems maybe even slightly lower in pitch?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dCV5G-ZTc14

nabisco, Saturday, 27 October 2007 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

(I think there is a repeating sound with two different tones mixed in, for a kind of doorbell-like DUNG dung.)

nabisco, Saturday, 27 October 2007 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link

each spinoff ought to have its own signature tone really
the CI one could just be a guy saying "donofrio!!"

El Tomboto, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

No, the CI one should be the clip of D'Onofrio whinnying like a horse.

n/a, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link

The one for Trial By Jury should be the anguished squeal of a man getting punched in the nuts.

HI DERE, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dCV5G-ZTc14

haahahaaha holy shit everybody needs to watch this

and what, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

how come special victims unit was never this amazing when i tried to watch it

and what, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

BARBIE I LOVE YOU

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

hahaha

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

IM COMIN FOR YA BARBIE

and what, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

DONT MAKE ME HURT YOU... YOURE JUST JEALOUS OF HER BEAUTY!!!!

and what, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

omg

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't watch SVU at all because Meloni is permanently typecast in my mind as the camp cook in WHAS

I wish I had sound right now

El Tomboto, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

SVU is almost always this awesome.

HI DERE, Monday, 29 October 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

haha that whole thing was just a setup to get meloni out of the episode!

gff, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.cookcountycourt.org/images/1.gif

Jesse, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

and the end of the clip the letter M calls the sound "chung chung"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2CSkLR6mUQ

jbsquared, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Thursday, 1 November 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

i just walked by another Law & Order shoot this morning and when passing the crew suppressed an almost irresistible urge to shout "DUNH DUNH!" at them.

sanskrit, Thursday, 1 November 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

haha

rrrobyn, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link

"other" was robbed. none of the given options were right.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 1 November 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

¡Tchkung!¡Tchkung!

dan m, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

it's "DUNG GUNK" obv

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

BUNKUM

El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

¡Tchkung!¡Tchkung!

Minus the Spanish exclamation points, this looks like a Wade-Giles transliteration of a Pinyin version already mentioned.

jaymc, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Kraftwerk to thread!

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

ny times weighs in
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/arts/television/04kant.html?_r=1&ref=arts&oref=slogin

mizzell, Saturday, 3 November 2007 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Great is the truth and it prevails

gabbneb, Saturday, 3 November 2007 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

need an iphone app for this

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

BIG HOOS

jigglepanda.gif (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha how did I miss "FART BATH" before

al kaline trio (dan m), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

'shump shump'

akm, Friday, 10 October 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link


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