understandably so
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
oh lord
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Friday, 25 June 2010 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link
that shit is hilarious to me -- how perfect
I haven't read the piece yet but I would like to generally recommend modern fiction and literature, which I think is really good, probably better than Drake
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:40 (thirteen years ago) link
haha the rare but pointed nabisco zing
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i stick to non fiction
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link
*non phixion
― max, Friday, 25 June 2010 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link
oh, it's not too pointed, most just kidding.
I do understand and share some of the annoyances of when not-music people get assigned big music features. I think ILM also has plenty of conversations that lit people would find every bit as weird or embarrassing in the other direction, although of course I don't know that many ILM posters would be willing to tackle a magazine feature about a novelist, so it's kind of a different standard.
but there are a couple things here about dude's prose that are a bit like ... they might be different coming from someone who was more steeped in fiction/lit/magazine-writing than music writing? I don't mean that in a snotty way, it's just both things have norms and insides.
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 25 June 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link
liked this profile, psyched for his new book
― just sayin, Friday, 25 June 2010 07:36 (thirteen years ago) link
the new book is really sharp and funny, I'd say much better than the first two
― oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
modern fiction can blow me
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't read one goddamn new book I've liked in forever
i also hate mobile phones and all this crap on tv
― plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link
felt like this for years tbh. modern fiction blows. except for Victor Pelevin.
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe it's not the books
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
but it is
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link
name one book, I bet I can type that it sucks in this little box here and believe it
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i am sure you could
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
what's the last piece of fiction you've read
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
not to derail this thread entirely but my problem with modern lit is that so many authors are content to just stay within these narrow confines of traditional novel narrative structures - here's a narrator, plot goes from A to B to C, the end. *yawn*
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
okay name a book you hate and i will try to come up with a book you will like by the principle of opposition
― horseshoe, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link
k hold on I am thinking
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
this is an argument for a diff't thread/board tho...
re: Horseshoe. oh let's see, Zadie Smith's "White Teeth"
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, June 25, 2010 12:15 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
omggggggggggggggggggggg shut upppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
― max, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
alternately we could all drive the the nearest pencil up our respective noses.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah maybe we shouldn't do this here.
i haven't read white teeth but i will try to think of a book that's v different from on beauty. this might not work, i'm thinking.
― horseshoe, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
honestly I just want ppl to rec. good new books so I can read them and then ignore their posts forever if I don't like them and enjoy good books if I do like the book
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
what can I say, in this day and age I don't see the point in writing a novel that adheres to a format developed in the 19th century
xp
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
g-gonna slowly distance myself from shakey mo here
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
can i just say that i would be totally happy to only ever read novels that adhere to a nineteenth century format?
having said that, most of the modern fiction i read does not. i mean, it is still stories about people for the most part, but apart from that...
― horseshoe, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
seriously let's take this to another thread
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
reading people with an avowed disinterest in modern fiction trying to diagnose its supposed problems is much, much more interesting from a rubbernecker's perspective than the latest round of stale zings about m.i.a.'s inconsistent politics and non-music crits tackling band profiles.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
do you hate songs too, shakey? such a played-out format.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Shteyngart vs. this: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/kill-me-now/Content?oid=4319529
― Mexico, camp, horns, Zappa, Mr. Bungle (Matos W.K.), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I only read sexting
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
or sexts
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, June 25, 2010 12:19 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
omgggggggggggggggggggggggggg shut UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
― max, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
and sex twitters
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i think i do not have a developed enough sense of literary criticism to actually give form to this "principle of opposition" i referred to earlier.
― horseshoe, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
haha if you think people are writing songs the same way they were 150 years ago I dunno what to tell you. the formal/technical qualities of producing sound alone have changed so much, a pop song produced in 2010 is almost entirely unrecognizable from a popular ditty performed in 1860.
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
a+ trolling?
― plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't even
― plax (ico), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I could write a lot about this and I sense people's urge/instant reaction to strawman me about this but I dunno if this is the place... I guess I can ruin this thread if that's what everyone wants haha
― insert your favorite discriminatory practice here (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah go for it
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
is me wishing Dan Savage would die a bad thing
― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
yes
― pass le corbusier (s1ocki), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
also kind of a nonsequitur unless i'm missing something
― pass le corbusier (s1ocki), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
"DJ Assault, whose lyrics I actually paid to use in my last novel"
modern fiction, all is forgiven.
― like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
i would really do anything to have ALL journalists and writers just stop talking about themselves
― The Makavelian 7-Day Old (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
ah, the first person can be useful in some circumstances, it's just too often abused.
― like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Friday, 25 June 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link