New Apple Lust Objects

xpost

Widgets ought to just run as they a javascripts,css and xhtml. Compiled apps will be a bit different but I can't see them not having implemented cocoa in some form or other plus other libraries, Quicktime, Quartz, CoreVideo, Core Image in some form for sure. Cocoa is designed to, by an large abstract the hardware`(and OS) from the programmer so as jw mentions above, it should be a .nib for XCode and some minor slimming of code and interface redesign for apps.

That engadget post is crap. Steve talked about developing 3rd party apps for it and how they would be 'desktop class' in the stevenote.

woah. deal-breaker.

sorry. i mean deal-maker.

So, the question is whether a phone running a much more robust OS is going to be treated the same way.

-- you win again, gravity! (tiss...) (webmail), January 10th, 2007 8:25 AM. (tissp) (later) (link)

XScale!!!!! Do I get a cookie? (LOL at Britishes and ARM)

The screenshots of iTunes's phone page also have no "Apps" or "Games" tab, but everything else syncs through it. And Jobs has been whanging on about how it's "not a computer, it's a phone".

That said, Apple people have been talking about an XCode update with a dev kit for it.

If this thing is really tied to real OS X as much as I suspect it is, the secret weapon is going to be Interface Builder. Very little non gui code will have to be rewritten if people wrote their application using MVC properly.

(Also, somehow the UK/US-morning crew are about 1000x more interesting than the armchair luddites at night!)

Not everything is final. Syncing a folder of .apps isn't that hard. I wouldn't be surrpised if the iTunes support was only added at the last moment to support the features it has in common with the iPod.

That said, Apple people have been talking about an XCode update with a dev kit for it.

Yea XCode 3 is coming out soon I think? I remember Apple rumor mills saying that Leopard was going be huge on integrating GPS information -- it looks like this may be the primary impetus behind this.

or iLife 07. or changes to computers. I saw someone commenting that they knew the iPhone would overshadow everything, so they are going to wait.

Mr. Jobs would not say how open the phone would be to other developers, but added: “I don’t want people to think of this as a computer. I think of it as reinventing the phone.”

He also said he was anxious to help protect the Cingular network from the kind of viruses and worms that bedevil the PC world today.

Why not say? And "viruses"? Was that just a nonsense dig at Windows, or a spurious reason to lock it down?

It is XScale, or you think it is?

(This is getting confusing)

If the CEO of a company is stressing that a relatively obvious logical extension of the displayed functionality is not on the table or not the way the product should be used, that usually means that A) that simple intuitive leap is a gigantic world of hurt for the application on either or both the implementation and quality assurance fronts; and/or B) they tried to do that from the get-go and the whole thing blew up massively in their faces, so they are now massively downplaying it in order to buy time to figure out how to get themselves out of the corner they've put themselves into.

Personally, I think jobs was trying to stay on target yesterday, hence no mention of any new/updated Apple software.

re: XScale / it seems logical and there was a story about it I saw on google reader a few weeks back

Ha ha.

http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/

This planned sale does not impact the ability of other Intel businesses in the networking and storage market segments to continue to use ARM-based, Intel XScale processors. Those Intel businesses will be able to continue licensing chip designs directly from ARM Holdings PLC and modifying the designs for their needs.

There are also higher-end ARMs available from Freescale and Samsung, and there's always the possibility that Apple did their own CPU or had one built to spec.

I think the whole "runs OSX" thing should have some giant asterix next to it, as it is obviously some sort of subset of the OS, or a set of APIs or something.

This is intersting: http://www.simmtester.com/page/news/shownews.asp?where=2895625&num=9767

Knowing Apple, it's probably some weird Frankenstein combo of a bunch of chips.

http://honeybrown.ca/Pubs/BumpTop.html

It would be cool to do that stuff on an EYEPHONE.

this thing looks shittier and shittier the more i look at it, honestly

Well then the itv would have to have filesharing so you could access those

This the perfect example of a convergence project. Everyone who was hoping for a 100GB iPod is incredibly disappointed. Everyone who (like me) was looking at paying 3-400 bucks for a blackberry/Treo/PPC-6700 that has between 128-256 MB of storage (expandable with overpriced flash cards) is incredibly excited about 4-8GB. (Not excited about Cingular, not at all, but as of right now I am leaning towards switching in the summer.)

I am currently using a Sprint phone, Verizon blackberry and my 2nd gen 20GB ipod (circa 2002) which is a tank. I have been holding off on a new phone/berry in the hopes of something better, and I would definitely switch over to the iPhone for the joy of reducing the device count in my pockets from 3 to 1. That said, as is pretty much ALWAYS the case with apple, it might be worth waiting until the 2nd generation (16GB flash? unlocked GSM? HSDPI?)