Cassie: The new Ciara?

but shes already got good producers??? why have we been led to believe anything great will come from this, danja has some great beats, some wack ones, just like anyone else. i dont get why anyone would be all :D !!! DANJAHANDS!!! and i dont even hate the dude like RTC does

http://www.earthmusicnetwork.com/netsy/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/Haterade.gif

im taking the middle road here! you & alex were hating

This moment when the singer/producer dynamic-duo falters for the first time is usually the beginning of the end of something great though. I mean... great songs have come out of Amerie and Kelis working with producers other than their original partners-in-crime, but there's a whole loss of innoncence / kicked out of Eden vibe to it all isn't there.

but there's a whole loss of innoncence

but tapestore still likes it! oh wait that was a typo wasnt it.

anwyay yeah SUSPECT isnt the half. hard to fathom how anyone with an appreciation of cassie's uh fragile fortes wouldnt be imagining this collabo with some tredipation - ok granted there've been moments when danja suggests he could be a sensitive match (the offbeat kath mcphee & nikki flores teenpop stuff in particular) but if he goes and does his usual and britneys it she'll just get swallowed right up, surely. even furtadoing it would probably be too strong (not to mention it being straight uninteresting).

4 the record i think danja is potentially a monster producer but kinda needs to get out from under the timbrella now, especially following his showstopping cameo on 'i get naked'. otherwise yes wearisomely overrated, and never more so than when caught up in some tryhard's "nu-hiphouse omg omg i like dance" baby steps cobblers.

haha errr i have not a bit of anger in me and that post still managed to come out gunning dudes? these fingers are kinda possessed.

LOL. I'm not obsessed with Cassie, I just think her first album is excellent (in spite of her weak vocals), so of course I'm looking forward to the follow-up.

I'm a bit obsessed, yeah. Like Brainwasher, I'm a huge fan of her debut (and again, moreso because of Ryan Leslie, but Cassie still contributed a lot to the record...shame Just Friends didn't make the cut). It's a really consistent album.

What excites me now, though, is how much growth both Cassie and Leslie have shown since the debut. All the leaks are of a much higher quality than the ones that appear on her album...better production, better, more confident and more emotional singing and better songs (as said upthread, I prob. prefer "Is It You" to "Me & U")

They're a great duo, the closest, i think, we've come to an Aaliyah/Timbo situation. So yeah, I'm extremely excited about the album. And Danja? Well, he played a huge role in two of my favorite records of the '00s (my #1, FutureSex/LoveSounds, and Blackout)

btw, Cassie sounds a hell of a lot more exciting than other R&B favorites like, say, Amerie, who haven't really grown much from record to record.

"timbrella"!

THX everyone for not pointing out the complete fuckup in my post (that Just friends song = dif. cassie...one who has a bigger voice but a more soulless one). or maybe thx for not reading.

I still listen to "About Time" almost every day.

Sometimes four or five times in a row.

THIRSTY

"Is It You" is kinda suck. No thanks, Cassie hype kru.

'Thirsty' is nice but not one of her best. In some respects it sounds like it might be a deliberate re-write of 'Is It You' (some of the chord progressions are very similar).

"Official Girl" just passed "No Air" on my singles-of-the-year list (putting it at #1)

Re: Cassie vs. Karina...well, it's obv. no contest for me. Karina adds nothing new to the track. Vocally, she holds quite a bit of potential, but this song doesn't need any vocal gymnastics. The beat is so lush (omg the simple synth melody) and intricate (listen to the goddamn drums!) that showboating only detracts from its beauty. Cassie's understated vocal works so much better; she sounds like a part of the song, not just an element floating atop it...

I could go on and on about this...fuck, it's so interesting. At first I was excited about Danja working with Cassie, but then I worried that he'd give her one of his weaker beats (y'know, since he's super busy and she's Cassie). But to my surprise, Danja sounds brilliant here, one of his best beats, i think, and his vocal is good, too...probably better than "Is It You?"

SOOOOOO excited for rest of the album...

you are burning with such youthful enthusiasm that i feel like jess harvell jr. trying to grinch it so ill keep it short - this song is kinda zzzzz to me and beat is pretty clutch by numbers

but u know ... opinions4u!!!

yeah this song is just so-so for me. is Danja starting to do vocals on tracks that sound like Timbo now? eww. was there ever any indication that Kanye would actually be working on Cassie's album, back when he was putting her in videos and on magazine covers and everything? I could see her voice working well w/ his current production style.

STOP RUINING IT FOR ME.

Sry you guys don't like it. There's something about it that reminds me of Lloyd's "You," actually.

is Danja starting to do vocals on tracks that sound like Timbo now? eww.

Naw, his voice is more pleasant, I think. I don't find it annoying at all. He was on Britney's album like this, too, unless I have a terrible memory. Also, I realllly like the "Danja..and the....CLUTCH!" intro (have they used that anywhere else???)

was there ever any indication that Kanye would actually be working on Cassie's album, back when he was putting her in videos and on magazine covers and everything? I could see her voice working well w/ his current production style.

God, I hope not. His current production style is almost as bad as his MC skills. Maybe worse (so much of Graduation only sounded good for two spins...e.g. "Champion," "The Glory"). . If this album is 75% Ryan Leslie, 25% other people, it should be perfect.

Actually, upon further reflection "Official Girl" is like the most Hot Chip-like of the Cassie singles (and here I employ Hot Chip in the derogative). But I still like it though.

God, I hope not. His current production style is almost as bad as his MC skills. Maybe worse (so much of Graduation only sounded good for two spins...e.g. "Champion," "The Glory").

http://i17.tinypic.com/6ptj2ua.gif

i don't think it's danja on 'official girl'. sounds like the same dude from the tiffany evans - 'girl gone wild' intro and that one was produced by brian kidd.

how is that Tiffany Evans album?

most Hot Chip-like

???
I've only heard a few Hot Chip singles, so if those aren't representative of their sound, ignore this, but what exactly does that mean? Are you talking about the production or the vocals? The HC songs I've heard sounded kinda soulless, and I wouldn't call "Official Girl" remotely soulless (or at the very least, it's no more soulless than any other Cassie song).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/35/Officialgirlcover.jpg/600px-Officialgirlcover.jpg

Hot. This song has grown on me in a huge way, it's so sweet.

how is that Tiffany Evans album?

-- Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:54 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

The best teen-pop/R&B album I've heard in a long time (not that I hear all that many on a yearly basis).

the pc version of 'no homo'

CORRECT, especially if you add "here, at my job" to that parenthetical.

Tiff Evans' album is pretty good yeah, especially "girl gone wild"

How much longer?????????

I just heard Cassie's version of Official Girl and it basically sucks. The first verse is overly clumsy and her voice sounds weaker than ever. Maybe it would have sounded better to my ears if i hadn't heard Karina's version... Her voice is a lot sweeter to swallow than Cassie's. Tyhe sond itself is bril though.

Cassie's voice is extra weak and her upcoming 'Official Girl' is going to bomb, she has better tracks on the new album like 'Thirsty' and 'Turn The Lights Off' but this is SOOO a thinly veiled attempt to express her like, feelings on her suspect relations/ship with P Diddy/Puffy. She's really hot tho, I'm sure that will work out for her. She's not the new Ciara because she can't dance and doesn't have a constantly successful production team.

*Consistently

RONG
"Her voice is a lot sweeeter to swallow than Cassie's"?
"doesn't have a constantly successful production team"?

"Addiction" >>>> all the Cassie solo records floating around

i dig "addiction," but that's also rong

Cassie's album bombed on a real note, I just think when working with her the production team is inconsistent they don't look at the bigger picture, they focus on one song and hope it'll carry everything else.
Ciara's voice is just as weak.
They're both wrongses.

Was listenin to Thirsty, and maybe it's cos i'm runnin a bit of fever, but for a few precious moments i thought i was listenin to aaliyah.

this thread needs more pictures

official girl pub. photos = hottttttt

http://www.complex.com/assets/galleries/1369/cassieweb4.jpg

sexxy huh guys

her album is titled CONNECTICUT FEVER? 50 gonna be mad he didn't think of that.

^^That picture doesn't properly display the fitness (this is true, great looking woman etc), in that pic she looks like an off duty/desperate crack fiend.
Here's better...
http://men.style.com/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/feature/030108/cassie_ventura/00007f.jpg
Chick truly has looks on her side, Ciara may look better these days but she's no Cassie. Also am tired of the Aaliyah comparisons, Aaliyah WAS and still is far and beyond different and better to some of the girls coming in the game right now. Some may border on her style but not quite.

she needs to eat something

also ciara >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cassie

ciara looks mad anorexic lately tho, dunno why she lost weight she was looking amazing in the "Promise' video

who's really compared cassie to alliyah?

^Ciara's been signed up for some modelling contract on the side. Apparently thats code for drop a hundred pounds so you look like the protein drip should be your friend.
At first the Aaliyah comparisons where just based around Ciara because 'they dance and sing' but then Cassie came in and people said she was trying to move in on Aaliyah's sound. Just random blogs and stuff there's a lot of hate from Aaliyah fans who think Cassie is dedicated to trying to rip off Aaliyah in terms of style and looks some are super paranoid and think she even moved to NYC to be like Aaliyah (a stretch to say the least)....

WHY ISN'T ANYTHING LEAKING?

i love them both, but cassie > ciara