do i buy a thing

I have a feeling that power meters are going to start coming down in price over the next few years. Quarq is a bit of a game changer in this regard.

i have a 305 and it's great. i got it @ wholesale for beta-testing a site that's now my sponsor!

Ed OTM about power meters not only dropping in price but also will be radically changing in form in terms of technology. instead of being tied to a hub/wheel (power tap) or a crank (srm), there is a whole new movement to move power meters into more portable forms like pedals.

I have teammates who don't even look at speed (and more and more are ignoring HR!) in favor of rolling 3-second average power as a percent of max!!! nerds!

i think i saw something about a pedal-based system last year on another forum around interbike time. some people were dissing it though. are powermeter partisans more annoying than groupset partisans??

probably worse because in 5-10 years, all existing tech will be obsolete by the sounds of things...

hmm the 500 does look interesting

WHO WANTS TO BUY MY POWERTAP? ED? C'MON

^^^good deal imho^^^

Just in case this is of use to our American friends, I got this today:

http://www.cyclingcloseouts.com/email_ads/July_2010/index.html

for londoners
http://www.onebelowzero.com/skin/frontend/default/SiDi/images/media/cycling.jpg

Thanks Cozy!

Where's Perivale? I have a feeling it's near Pinner.

do I buy a thing?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Colnago-Forever-Extreme-Power-Complete-Bike-52-CM-RARE/200495653138?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item2eae78e112#ht_739wt_881

too small, I think, oh well

Ed, and others:

http://www.evanscycles.com/categories/bike-frames/road-bike-frames?brand=BMC&price_from=&price_to=&sort=&per_page=20&x=18&y=10&utm_source=awin&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=awin&promo=Content

Nice, don't need another.

cheap kit from china on ebay: y/n

also wearing mellow johnny's kit is tacit support of larald armsrong: y/n

mellow johnny's kit can be argued away as supporting our troops in the fight against cancer

watched CX race again today, kinda getting the itch... tax return comin thru this week... ?????

http://road.cc/sites/default/files/images/Genesis%20Day%20One%20Alfine%20-%20Full%20Bike.preview_500.jpg

No to Mellow Johnny's - nothing tacit about your lance-love!

srs? : (

Americans, Jenson have a Knog lights sale on if you're interested?

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/brand/?373&p=1

http://www.baltimorebicycleworks.com/upload/used/002.JPG

rapha butt cream y/n

is it going to be any better that Assos? really?

Have never tried embrocation - tempted to for upcoming night ride and winter commuting.

recovery tights? anyone use em?

aka compression tights? 2XU? Skinz? etc.

Have never tried embrocation

Me neither, but I'm curious to try it. The smell of embrocation in the changing rooms is one of the key things I remember about the races I did at Eastway way back in 89. It doesn't seem to be so commonly used nowadays.

J tried it once before a race in dreadful conditions (torrential downpour, high winds). Not bad, never got a chance to do it again.

J = I

Do you know what brand?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320604115230&ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT

lol

mash on!

at a bike gear crossroads. i need to get either a new road bike, or makeover my current ancient bike. i really love my 97 dean ti frame, it's really basic but fits and rides the best of all bikes ive had. its components are 11 years old and way worn out. i also want the ability to bring my own bike conveniently when i travel (which is not v. often).

so, should i strip off the ancient team powdercoat, ship the frame to bilenky and have s&s couplers put on, and then install a full new sram force gruppo? i think cutty likes sram, right?

a thousand times yes

I want couplers so bad. def getting them on my next bike

youve probly seen the bilenky site? it's a pretty good deal compared to like, buying a ritchey break-away. ti couplers are .5 pound extra.

http://www.bilenky.com/Retrofits.html

wow:
http://www.sandsmachine.com/carvlugs.htm
http://www.sandsmachine.com/p_boh_r8.jpg
http://www.sandsmachine.com/p_boh_r9.jpg
http://www.sandsmachine.com/p_er_r15.jpg

stunning. my steel lugged commuter bike has some dope fleur de lys lugging that are really subtle but this is just next level.^^^

some of that is ren faire nonsense

EXCALIBURRRRRR!!!

damn u know my steez-- not on my bike.

but my swords sure, and coordinated cloak pins.

also, penguins or kiwis or whatever those birds are-- that's almost dolphins w/ helmets level.

SRAM definitely the way to go IMO

sorta bummed about going 10spd tbh, but since i'd have to do it whether i stay shimano or not, its gonna be sram, the force stuff looks pretty good.

today's weather is making wish I had the resources to apply the thread q to a pugsley. f u snow

new lowest specced canyon comes w/SRAM apex for just a smidge under £800. tempting

i bought a $$ thing for ease of travel as discussed above :\ gotta ship frame out to bilenky. nearly buyer's remorse, but i sorta know its the right move long long term. i'll have this thing 5 or 6 years min, and will travel enough to make it break even.

should i go compact, or continue to fight it out on a 39/23 or 39/25? **superjames 39/23 trauma 7/10--never forget ;_;**

my next commuter bike will have an Alfine internal hub... well, that actually depends... can you have rear QR with an internal hub?

Should be possible if you use a chain tensioner, eccentric BB or somesuch.

Hunter, go compact - I'm riding my old trad-geared roadie at the moment and having that much less at the spinny end is doing my head in (disclaimer - I am weak and pathetic)

50/34 and 11/25 should sort you out, or even 11/23 if you like to mash.

unless things have changed, internals hubs have solid, nutted axles shasta. ed is right in that you may use vertical dropouts with a tensioner. i think you will have to buy special vertical dropout antispin washers, though.

i am a huuuge fan of my nexus 8spd internal. i just hit 12000 mi and had my first replacement of parts- the cog and chain. same shifter, same cables. i think i've had to adjust the cable tension on the barrel adjuster 3 times? durability is great i think, but i do not put the (massive) quantity of watts through it that you would~ no joke, i think it could be an issue if you hammered it hard enough.

anyway, the nutted axle is my biggest beef with the hub's commutability. if you rear flat, it is pretty shitty compared to having a qr. plus i have a loaded rack and fenders and track forkends. as a result i have made flat avoidance a priority and upped my tire quality wrt flat resistance. i'm using a vittoria randonneur 700x32-- it's been far superior to the supercheap performance gt2k's that i'd been using (they work ok on the front though).

Vittoria Pitstop latex goop aerosol is a pretty good get home solution