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Okay I'm tired of being virtually the only one who wants to talk about the two El Momento discs, El Momento Descuidado & El Momento Siguiente. I honestly do not think they have been this good since Hologram of Baal, freaking 9 years ago, bless their hearts. But I admit the discs are spotty so I have made a comp. of my fave tracks:

1. Wide Open Road (I love how he goes "NOW! You can go anywhere..." it's the perfect romantic heartbreak song, that thing of being in the now and facing a future even though you're stuck painfully in the past)

2. 0408 (I like this one almost as much as "Invisible"...the piano is killer and the acoustic guitar riff is nearly as infectious as "Invisible"'s)

3. That new version of Reptile (oh my god that little scat vocal thing he does at the end is priceless! And the fact that he starts it off with a HISSSS like a snake is fucking classic on top of it)

4. November

5. Chromium (some nice falsetto work from Marty)

6. Song In The Afternoon (this one's pretty hypnotizing, I must say)

7. A New Season (better than the original? maybe not, but damn close)

8. Appalatia

9. Bordello (god, this one is weird, have they ever sounded *that* rock and roll before?? That is some bad ass shit, you half expect Steve to start wearing spandex and rock star sunglasses)

10. Tristesse (every bit as enjoyable as the original, I think)

11. Invisible (my favourite of the lot and a riff that has a tendency to go around and around in my brain incessantly)

12. NSEW (North, South, East, West)(nah, not as good as the original, but it's interesting to hear the lyics clearly)

13. Between Mirages

14. Comeuppance

One complaint with these two discs: the version of Grind pales in comparison to the "Acoustic Version" found on the Terra Nova Cain U.S. promo 12". Uh..available on the internet like everything else.

Bimble, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 05:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Bimble - thanks for this, I find these sorts of things very, very helpful. Mostly because I'm too lazy to figure out my own comp! Excellent mix - 7 tracks from each volume, half new and half rerecordings.

So I just finished listening and it's quite fine. 0408 is clearly a standout as is Bordello and Song In The Afternoon. Wide Open Road is a cover - one of the finest songs from Weddings Parties Anything. Not sure about Reptile, though - the original is such a MONSTER that this new version is interesting but desperately missing the soundscape of the original. Agree that Invisible is greatly enhanced, though, with NSEW also benefiting from this treatment.

Meanwhile I'm loving the post-Starfish comp I made (listed unthread with some alterations).

Mr. Odd, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Wide Open Road is a cover - one of the finest songs from Weddings Parties Anything

"Wide Open Road" was done by the Triffids originally. WPA also covered it.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 26 July 2007 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Meantime as long as this is revived, the band sent around this bulletin on Myspace today:

the church created the soundtrack to Shriek, a short film based on the book. The film will be available on the internet next week. World Fantasy Award Winner Jeff VanderMeer’s novel Shriek: An Afterword is out in trade paperback in the U.S. this week.

In the meantime, you can visit the Shriek site http://www.shriekthenovel.com for more information, including a trailer of the film and a couple of soundtrack samples.

Shriek movie trailer : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OC_luLwJ64

More news soon about the Shriek music being available on the internet.

"Being able to get The Church for the soundtrack is a great example of synergy," VanderMeer says. "I wrote the novel while listening to The Church's entire catalogue, so for them to turn around and agree to do the music fit the movie perfectly."

According to Steve Kilbey from The Church, "It's great to make music that'll be heard along with something visual. Collaborating with media other than music sparks ideas for our own music, too." Kilbey and Tim Powles from the band contributed a voice-over for part of the film. Kilbey’s art is also featured."

VanderMeer's previous books have made the year's best lists of Amazon.com, Publishers Weekly, LA Weekly, The San Francisco Chronicle, and many others. He is widely regarded as one of the finest fantasists of his generation, and Shriek: An Afterward was recently hailed as, “Masterful....fans of Mark Z. Danielewski, Angela Carter and Borges will be well rewarded,” in a starred review from Publishers Weekly.

"There came a force so beguiling that even a cold-minded scholar must surrender to it. There came a war so strange that bullets became delicacies. There came a night so terrible no one could name it. And one man’s obsession may hold the key to the survival of a city….An epic yet personal look at several decades of life, love, war, and death in the famed city of Ambergris, the Afterword relates the scandalous, heartbreaking, and horrifying secret history of two squabbling siblings and their confidantes, protectors, and enemies."

“After a moment the creature blushed into a haze of purple-blue-green, then back to gold, but a more vibrant shade. Duncan poured more water over the creature. It seemed to crack apart, fissures erupting across its skin at regular intervals. But no-it was merely opening up, each of its four legs unfurling, to settle upside down on the floor. Immediately, it leapt up, spun, and landed, cilia down, revealed as a kind of starfish.” —From Shriek: An Afterword

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

what would be more interesting is if the Church recorded the soundtrack for Shrek

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

"Wide Open Road" was done by the Triffids originally. WPA also covered it.

God, I hate egg on my hipster face. Good on yer for correcting me.

But WPA deserves more mentions on ILM anyway.

Mr. Odd, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link

OMG Curtis is so right. As I skimmed through that post, my mind read "Shrek" every time. I was really confused.

Bimble, Saturday, 28 July 2007 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link

They're starting to upload various videoclips from last year's tour on their myspace site. Nice.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 August 2007 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Does anyone else like Mimesis, this project Steve Kilbey did with Simon Polinski and John Kilbey and other folks? This CD is a real headtrip. Makes me feel like I'm on acid even when totally sober. Actually, though, if Ned hadn't mentioned it, it would have slipped by me totally.

Bimble, Monday, 3 September 2007 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Meantime, the not-bad-at-all neogaze band Tearwave have done a not-bad-at-all cover of "Under the Milky Way" -- on their myspace:

http://myspace.com/tearwave

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 September 2007 02:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Hell yeah, that's nice music. Not bad at all. I appreciate the faithfulness of the guitar solo. One of her other songs sounded good, too. Plus, I love her blue hair.

But honestly I'm just amazed that anyone bothered to revive a Church thread besides me. I've felt very alone in my Church love of late. Maybe I should join their mailing list again like I was in '95-'96 or whatever. Assuming they still have a mailing list. They're really one of my absolute fave bands ever on the planet. The weird thing was that whenever something really really painful happened to me in life, suddenly a new album by them was out to sink my sorrow into. This happened three times. But not this year. No, this year I'm just so happy they sound better than ever.

Bimble, Sunday, 16 September 2007 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Mr. Odd, I'm sorry I never before looked at your post-Starfish comp. above. I guess I was drunk and missed it before. It's hard to choose tracks from those albums, though. It's hard to get past the fact that you mentioned "Russian Autumn Heart", though. I think if a random stranger were to come up to me in the street and say those words, I'd probably faint. That song is a killer. And I want to hear it RIGHT NOW.

Bimble, Sunday, 16 September 2007 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I've still got my Russian Autumn Heart CD single!

Bimble, Sunday, 16 September 2007 02:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Never heard Mimesis. Is it still available?

Capitaine Jay Vee, Sunday, 16 September 2007 04:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I daresay so. Go to the myspace page for a taste.

Bimble, Sunday, 16 September 2007 04:32 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I just found "A Quick Smoke At Spot's" under a pile of CD's, that delicious collection of Church b-sides and cursed myself cause I've been meaning to play it for weeks, and so I finally have. Only to recall that a lyric for "Texas Moon" is "Going down/beneath the Texas Moon". Does it get any better than that? I think not.

Bimble, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I used to own that. Which song was the early version of "Milky Way"?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Truth be told, though some of my fave b-sides of them were "The View" & "As You Will" both from the Heyday era, and alas, these are not included on this compilation.

Bimble, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:24 (sixteen years ago) link

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Not sure, Fever.

Bimble, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:25 (sixteen years ago) link

those two tracks are both on the hindsight comp and the heyday reissue

electricsound, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:32 (sixteen years ago) link

and they were both deserving of a better fate than being a b-side

electricsound, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh I just found it now, the one that is some bastardized version of Milky Way, it's called "Anna Miranda". Wow.

Bimble, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm determined to hear "Sisters" from the first album again, I haven't heard that in 7 billion years.

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Well maybe I should get the damn Heyday reissue then, electric sound!

Bimble, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:40 (sixteen years ago) link

mannnn i love A Quick Smoke at Spot's, i gotta pull that out for a spin tomorrow!

stephen, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 08:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I think the strongest period for The Church was between Priest=Aura and Hologram of Baal, with Sometime Anywhere/Somewhere Else being their very best.

Wow, that must be some really good crack you're on.

Seriously, tho, I realize the record has some diehard fans, I just don't think it's that great.

Last time I caught the band at the 9:30 Club, I watched a group of asian fans stand quietly through the entire concert, then they sang along with "Two Places At Once", cheered loudly and left immediately.

Maybe it's just me, but I think that song is their worst single.

Edward Bax, Saturday, 6 October 2007 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh no, I think it's dismal as well. And the fact that they bothered to re-record it for one of the El Momento discs only highlighted what an empty song it is. "They were so blind" is the only good thing about it but the rest is just a soup of boredom, it hardly seems worth the effort to even get to that part.

Bimble, Sunday, 7 October 2007 00:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Exactly.

It partly comes down those arguments about which set of members constitute a band. To me, The Refo:mation album is as much a Church record as the Koppes-less SA/SE and Magician - that is to say not at all. (Plus, Sometime largely amounts to SK/MWP fulfilling the Arista contract.)

My favorite track on SA/SE is "Drought", and that track actually belongs to the GAF era. On the double-disc remasters, you'll find that "Drought" has been removed from SA/SE and moved to the GAF bonus disc (along with the less well-known and terribly under-appreciated "Unsubstantiated").

I really can't speak highly enough of the remasters' bonus disc, especially with Starfish and GAF each acquiring some previously vinyl-only acoustic versions.

Edward Bax, Sunday, 7 October 2007 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Ooh, you make that sound very appealing indeed. I don't remember this "Drought" specifically but "Unsubstantiated" has GOT to be my favourite under the radar Church track ever!! In fact, I feel I must play that right now.

Mmm...GAF previously vinyl only acoustic versions. That sounds so good *salivates*. I know the 12" promo version they did of Grime back then was really good, that's all I know.

Bimble, Sunday, 7 October 2007 03:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Starfish has acoustic versions of "Milky Way", "Antenna" and "Spark" and GAF has acoustic versions of "Grind" and "Metropolis".

Ah, crap, I'm wrong about "Drought" and "Unsubstantiated" being on the GAF bonus disc - they are actually on the P=A bonus disc, along with "Nightmare" and "Fog" (both also underrated).

Edward Bax, Sunday, 7 October 2007 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link

AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NIGHTMARE & FOG WITH UNSUBSTANTIATED ON THE P=A BONUS DISC!???????

MUST HAVE IT NOW NOW NOWNOW NWOWNOWNOW I love Nightmare & Fog I really do. I bought the expensive Australian version of the Ripple CD single just so I could have those for my very own.

Bimble, Sunday, 7 October 2007 03:34 (sixteen years ago) link

had my iTunes on shuffle for a few hours tonight, whilst reading, and the best thing i've heard all night is easily the guitar line/riff on "Too Fast for You" - don't know if that says more about my iTunes as a whole, or about The Church's genius circa early '80s, but holy fuck do i love that guitar line.

stephen, Thursday, 18 October 2007 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link

anyone else have the Hindsight compilation? i've got it on now and it's all sorts of wonderful. nothing like The Church to soundtrack a late-night glass of white wine and a bit of web browsing.

stephen, Thursday, 18 October 2007 04:38 (sixteen years ago) link

likely one of my favorite compilations, ever. i might add.

stephen, Thursday, 18 October 2007 04:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Check the AMG listing...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 October 2007 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i have hindsight, it's a very strong compilation, particularly from the perspective of the non-LP stuff

electricsound, Thursday, 18 October 2007 04:43 (sixteen years ago) link

hahah yeah Ned, read the AMG listing before, i know you have it. you have everything Church-related i assume.

and the b-sides are pretty listenable, yes!
as opposed to certain other artists, whose b-sides aren't worthy to grace a 7-year career comp.

stephen, Thursday, 18 October 2007 05:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I should get Hindsight, I really should. I remember seeing it in stores many times and just thinking "oh I don't need that, I've already got everything on it" but hell I don't have all the cassettes I used to, either. It looks like a real nice comp now, in any case.

Bimble, Friday, 19 October 2007 03:55 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

According to Kilbey, the Space Rock Xmas show mentioned upthread is going to get an official release. Apparently titled Mercator Projection, there might be a DVD to go along with it.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 16 March 2008 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh my god! Look, I've looked upthread for that bit, but you apparently posted it on the sandbox so now I don't know how to find it! This is the one Ned kept salivating over right? Where they did a lot of Hawkwind or whatever?

Bimble, Monday, 17 March 2008 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I wouldn't put it quite so stickly, Bimble.

Anyway, took 'em long enough!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Heheh. Well sorry for being "stickly". I don't know what that means exactly, but I meant no offense. :)

Bimble, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link

stickily

electricsound, Monday, 17 March 2008 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Mr. Marty Willson-Piper is playing here next week. I feel rather privileged though I know nothing of his latest or even probably last three albums. Looking at his myspace page, I remember how enthusiastic a music-lover he always was. He mentioned Neu! before I ever even know who the fuck that was! He just has lots of energy. He wants to talk about music, his brain is a sponge for it, he has zillions of records, he's the kind of guy you could have a good chat with and a cup of tea.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 3 May 2008 07:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Apparently titled Mercator Projection

this was actually the name of the band.

energy flash gordon, Monday, 5 May 2008 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Doesn't the beginning bass line to "Anna Miranda" sound like early Cure??? It's like the early Cure version of "Under The Milky Way"! hahaha

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 21 June 2008 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link

This band is awesomeeeee

stephen, Sunday, 22 June 2008 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Thread revive because I can't think of an appropriate caption for this photo

http://www.vogue.com.au/var/vogue/storage/images/people_parties/events/2008/david_jones_american_express_card_launch/126939-4-eng-GB/david_jones_american_express_card_launch.jpg

(they played at some some AMEX corporate gig)

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 9 October 2008 07:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Kilbey looks in a better shape than 2 or 3 years ago.
Willson-Piper now is ready to join some Californian cult.

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 9 October 2008 07:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Yikes, Marty! Uh...what happened? Next he'll be wearing a rasta hat.

Bimble, Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

they played at some some AMEX corporate gig

And don't they look thrilled to be there!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link


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