TS: "Right Down The Line" vs "Baker Street"

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The thread title's deliberately provocative, in the old ILM style; sorry if that wasn't clear. I wanted a Gerry Rafferty thread that didn't concentrate on "Baker Street."

City to City is a good album, better than I expected.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Aren't the songs on that comp rerecorded?

There are 3 or 4 minor remixes ("Baker Street" among them), but no rerecording as far as I can tell from the liners.

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I wanted a Gerry Rafferty thread that didn't concentrate on "Baker Street."

Then let me mention that the two City to City follow-ups--Night Owl, Snakes & Ladders--are pretty damn good. (Says the guy who ranks City to City in his all-time Top 20, so apply many grains of salt as needed.)

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

"Home and Dry" is a very nice third single. The Night Owl singles aren't bad either.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

RIP big man. TBH I'm amazed he made it to 2011.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, that sucks. RIP

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

" In phases of renunciation, he smashed cases of superb wines into a stream on his land. "

i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Aw RIP. I have listened to his best of with pleasure so many times.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

" In phases of renunciation, he smashed cases of superb wines into a stream on his land. "

worthy of Becker-Fagen.

What a moving story: comfortable with his millions yet always unhappy.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

I think it's "Right Down the Line" for me, because sometimes the saxophone part grates on me in "Baker Street" after overexposure, and I love the harmonized chorus of "Right Down the Line".

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link

I love the light disco groove of this minor American hit (but big UK hit):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vTnff0pkgs

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:49 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Thanks to this thread, I finally listened to City to City (remembering the cover from the LP bins at the public library many years ago). I think I'd have to vote for "Baker Street" between these two songs, but is it strange to wonder if side 2 might actually be better than side 1? "Mattie's Rag" is the best McCartney song of 1978, "Home and Dry" shows he can do grandiosity without a sax, and "Waiting for the Day" has a lot more verve and momentum than you expect from "soft-rock". Al Stewart is like a sleepwalker in comparison.
It's sad that great records like this get forgotten because they don't fit people's narrative of what music in 1978 was about.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 26 June 2021 02:01 (two years ago) link

Funny this popped up... The other day while in the break room of the casino I work at, "Baker Street" was being piped in. I always heard that sax riff because, I mean... that sax riff. But for the first time I decided I would just pay my attention to the guitar and I am not a member of the guitar intelligentsia cabal but wow, that song has some subtly good guitar work and a solo that is perfect.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 27 June 2021 03:02 (two years ago) link

oh hell yeah that is some rippin guitar there. song is truly a “tour de force”

brimstead, Sunday, 27 June 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link

It is an absolutely perfect solo, and what's really remarkable is that because Rafferty wanted it to sound spontaneous, he didn't allow the session guitarist, Hugh Burns, to rehearse or experiment with different ideas. What you hear is a single take, played off the cuff. That's talent!

I Advance Masked (Vast Halo), Sunday, 27 June 2021 18:32 (two years ago) link

seven months pass...

“Right Down the Line” is truly one of the best songs of the 70’s.

Is there a thread that covers a similar mood/vibe/genre to this song? I want to hear more in this vein, a few examples come to mind but they’re not close enough or they’re not as plenty as I want them to be. I just want a 1 hour+ playlist in this style to play while making a bbq.

Here’s some examples of songs which I think are close but not quite:

Steely Dan - only a fool would say that
Fleetwood Mac - Rihannon
Ned Doheny - get it up for love
Jeremy Spencer Band - travellin

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 17 February 2022 23:05 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUkyD7clZLw

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 17 February 2022 23:12 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

First time I heard "Baker Street" was via The Simpsons having no idea what it was, and that sax riff sounded like a charming bit of cheese. I've heard it countless times since, and I've grown to intensely dislike it. Like right now, in this godforsaken drugstore piping it through their speakers.

birdistheword, Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link

I can't even remember "Right Down the Line" but I see Bonnie Raitt did a cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYp8lYT9Zhk

birdistheword, Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link

I love both songs, but "Right Down the Line" edges out "Baker Street." The Lucius cover really nails it.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link

The sax break is fine as part of the song, it's tiresome when removed from context as a signifier for "coked-out yacht rock corny awesomeness" etc.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

I think I know what you mean. Rafferty's singing on "Baker Street" always sounded dull to me, which is unfortunate because I actually like what he's put into the song lyrically, or at least what he's trying to write about. When the sax comes in, as cheesy as it may be, it does pump a sudden burst of life into the record. I don't know, maybe it's supposed to evoke the sudden pleasure you get from taking in a drug (or a smoke or a drink)?

birdistheword, Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link

That actually makes hearing it in a pharmacy wrongly appropriate.

birdistheword, Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:35 (one year ago) link

Do yourself a favor and listen to Star by Stealer's Wheel. That is the best Gerry Rafferty-related song. How that wasn't a major mega international hit is beyond me. Such a catchy song. makes Right On Down The Line sound like Faust.

Joe Egan's song!

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

I suddenly wondered whether "constant as a northern star" (in "Right Down The Line") originated with Joni, but it turns out Shakespeare put it in Julius Caesar.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Thursday, 14 July 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

This eccojam version of Baker St

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awAp5UGpncY

calstars, Thursday, 14 July 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link


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