Red Dead Redemption

you can shoot dudes in the leg, don't know if that counts as "subduing"

I don't understand liar's dice either

i think the way to win (in the one game you have to play to complete a mission) is to just keep yr bets way low and wait for the others to get stupid.

yeah, that's basically it. liar's dice is really easy. i don't think i've lost an actual game once (and won a number of them without losing a single die). just consider how likely their bets are and call them on it, and try to never lie if you can help it. half the time they'll make an obvious bluff and half the time they'll call you when you've got the dice.

i thought i would know how to play poker but i was wrong. i just kept calling until i had more money that i started with and then quit, never to return.

Only played Liar's Dice once, didn't feel like there was much to understand. It's just one of those 80% luck/20% skill games, I don't think there's any magic secret to it or anything.

i think the secret is to never lie. also if you find a table with only 1 or 2 guys it's easier

i looked up some real-world strategy stuff for blackjack and poker and it seemed to work out pretty well

are there ever any challenges to clean out a whole table at poker? pretty sure i could do it but i never have the patience.

also, is there any point to getting outfits? i like my baja and frankly the idea of wandering around sidewinder gulch just so i can look like a fucking "bandito" doesn't exactly thrill the pants off me

I would compromise on some graphics to make the controls more responsive

are there ever any challenges to clean out a whole table at poker? pretty sure i could do it but i never have the patience.

also, is there any point to getting outfits? i like my baja and frankly the idea of wandering around sidewinder gulch just so i can look like a fucking "bandito" doesn't exactly thrill the pants off me

― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:44 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark

there's an achievement for winning some hueg amount of chips in one hand. if you care.

some of the outfits give you some other minor benefit. and they're all required for 100%. again, if you care.

now that I've beaten this I am COMPLETELY DONE; no interest in clothes or achievements or even online. Great fun while it lasted but man, when you burn out you really burn out

felt the same way about fallout 3.

i tried getting my money back from the opium dealer but fucked it up.

this was confusing. giving him his money was a plus to honor, huh?

I got a goddamn royal flush in poker on this the other day.. Proud moment.

I've never played arm wrestling as every time I've gone to a table there's never anybody there. I assume it's the same or similar to arm wrestling in Lost & Damned?

I quite like Liar's Dice and Blackjack though there's nothing to them really. They get boring quickly.

arm wrestling is more fun in this than in L&D

man i need to up my game at deathmatch.

also realised today that in all gta games i always push the stick forward when walking/running/riding, even though you just have to press a/x to move forwards. kind of unintentional and dumb but it actually makes the controls less twitchy and turning easier, imo.

same here - which also means that very often I push left stick in unintentionally and start crouching. very annoying as it usually happens in the middle of combat panic mode (had exactly the same problem in GTA)

So I've been doing it wrong all this time? Thanks for the heads up!

Both work though. You can just push forward and not even touch the buttons if you just want standard speed strolling/trotting.

i don't like the pressing button to move, far too sensitive when turning.

well that's what i was saying, if you push the stick forward as well then you can turn more accurately.

haha i do this ALL THE TIME. like quick, john marsten, jump on my stagecoach! "ok!!" CROUCH

So how long is this game? I've been through about 4 missions for Bonnie and a couple for the Marshall. I've already put in 6-7 hours. If there are about 10-20 people to do missions for (like in recent GTA games) I will be playing this for quite awhile (like Fallout 3 come to think about it)...

I'm 12h 50m in and 45% complete. Don't know how that compares to other people, I think I might be quite slow. Finding it a bit of a slog now, I've started skipping cut scenes and taking stagecoaches.

I'm 12h 50m in and 45% complete. Don't know how that compares to other people, I think I might be quite slow.

Ha, 25 hrs and 20 minutes played, 34% complete.

poker is so boring :\

ah it's ok - when you systematically cut the cutscenes

I think i got 40 hours out of this and about 30 good hours

So how long is this game? I've been through about 4 missions for Bonnie and a couple for the Marshall. I've already put in 6-7 hours. If there are about 10-20 people to do missions for (like in recent GTA games) I will be playing this for quite awhile (like Fallout 3 come to think about it)...

i started like this, but when i opened up mexico i kinda flew through the missions and barely touched any of the side stuff. cutscenes got increasingly boring and i skipped them. i haven't played for a while, but i am actually itching to get 'back on the horse'. ho ho ho.

forks - i haven't played this game, but it seems to me like basically every game in this genre has the problem of being too long, or having a weak finish (or alternatively, just too much fluff in the middle to get the to the end)*, but do you think there are other GTA/alike games that don't suffer from this problem?

*except maybe Saints Row 2 as you could tear through the story relatively fast if you wanted to, or maybe I liked the story missions in it more. San Andreas might have had the opposite problem, i think that game was generally strongest in the middle hours after long tutorial, but again it's a long way to the finale

Bully is pretty refined, imo.

i thought bully was too short. but i go a little ocd on r* games i guess...

ps has anyone joined the social club? i tried last night and it wouldn't work. thought it was maybe a browser problem.

what is the social club?

http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/

think i must have signed up for gta. doesn't seem to offer much except some 'exclusive cheats', + stat viewing etc.

It's handy for keeping track of which locations it thinks you still haven't found.

are the extra challenges fun to do? that's all i'm really into at the moment

got my first duel disarm ^_^

I feel like I'll be playing this game for the rest of my life

are the extra challenges fun to do?

only a couple there at the moment, they look fairly tough, e.g. for pike's basin:

* Kill 3 people in one Dead Eye burst
* Drag a gang member through the basin
* Kill all enemies while on horseback

only just figured out how to do duels after googling :/

I feel like I'll be playing this game for the rest of my life

in a good way or a bad way

you'd think that for the sharpshooter challenge for shooting two hats off people's heads, a penalty for accidentally killing oooooh five or so folk while trying might be a good idea.

* Kill 3 people in one Dead Eye burst

this seems pretty easy now that I have the 'paint the target' thing

it was more the horse thing tbh, although i suppose it would just be tedious, not difficult. especially tedious if they manage to kill yr horse too.

this seems pretty easy now that I have the 'paint the target' thing

i killed five goats in one burst the other night and immediately got shot dead at by a Federale who i didn't notice was standing right next to me. don't fuck with Mexican goats!

aw man not the livestock

they looked tasty

i forgot that john marston doesn't eat