Ex-Japan members: David Sylvian or Mick Karn (Mick Karn RIP)

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Apologies, has been posted on another thread already. I hadn't found it at first. ( Fretless bass playing + Japan/Mick Karn/Percy Jones/Ippu-Do/Masami Tsuchiya/YMO/Ryuichi Sakomoto/Bill Nelson )

StanM, Sunday, 13 June 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Mick Karn made an album with Peter Murphy, (Dali's Car) so I'm going with him.

And guess what:

http://twitter.com/petermurphyinfo/status/22551651474

Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 August 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Word of a fundraiser/tribute album:

http://councilpartners.com/atributetomickkarn/index.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

RIP

nate woolls, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

He was one of the best, RIP.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Aaah man. Even though everything I read about this said it was really bad I was still hoping the guy would pull through. RIP, who now is as good and distinctive a musician as Karn was? Not many.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah crap. So sad he lost the fight.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Can instantly recognize him in any recording he's on, and I know nothing about bass players. RIP.

=(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhC8LnFd2LE

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8WNeb_Lg9A

=(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

His one off album appearance with Gary Numan on Dance had plenty of keepers -- this one pretty much predicted Dalis Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5UVIiXM_HY

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

"visions of china" was the first thing that came to mind when i heard. RIP

thomas l. sassy (donna rouge), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, very sad about this. One of my all-time favourite bass players, such a shame he didn't pull through. RIP Mick.

Satantango! (Matt #2), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

so sad. F U Cancer!!!

RIP.

jed_, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

RIP (even though I only know his Japan stuff, never knew what was worth checking out after that)

StanM, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Really sad news... Such a distinctive bass player...

RIP...

Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

StanM - the Dalis Car album is worth a listen

=(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

actually that undersells it, it's a good album

=(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Thank you for the tip, will listen.

StanM, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

In fact a lot of his later solo stuff is excellent, esp if you like noodly kinds of work.

This is devastating news for me, for many very personal reasons this man was my greatest hero and inspiration. He visited me in a vivid dream once and taught me how to find my inner creativity (srsly) and if affected me for months. I'm shattered by the loss.

Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

That is intense, Trayce!

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link

It was! He came up to me, in a gallery surrounded by his own sculptures, laid a hand on my head and looked me in the eye with this... energy.

Later in the dream he showed me he was able to turn into a bird. When I asked him how would I know which bird he was among all the others, when I needed him, he said "I will come and tap on the glass of your window, and you will know it is me. You'll just know".

It.... changed me. It was very weird. I'd not thought at all about him for years til that happened.

Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow.

Satantango! (Matt #2), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

So as you can imagine I'm deeply affected by this sad loss :( Such a brilliant man.

Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

One could put together an excellent sampler from his solo work, but I never bought into the multi-tracked woodwinds playing lugubrious chords that he was fond of. His (like Jansen and Barbieri) drifted into the neo-prog world by the mid 90s, and the only original album from that era I really loved (I owned most) was his drum n'bass collaboration with with Yoshihiro Hanno from 1998 entitled Liquid Glass.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

booooo fuk u mortality

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

RIP

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked "Each Eye a Path", especially "Venus Monkey" which is a really evocative track. Some stuff on "Bestial Cluster" also good - it is indeed neo-prog and noodly in places though.

Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Heigh ho, he weared it well....

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Horrible news. RIP :(

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35trBS-LWok

Jesus, so sad....Van Vliet/Gerry Rafferty/Mick Karn. Let's hope it stops at a horrid three
BTW, Did Sylvian gip the other band mates out of $? Said that in the you tube comments, that would make me even more sad.

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

it's odd because I woke up this morning with two songs knocking around my head, Moonchild and the Art of Parties. Hopefully that doesn't mean Fripp is going to kick off today too.

This is sad, I know Karn's fretless bass went out of style there for a while but it is a sound I adore.

akm, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

dreams of reason produce monsters was a good record.

akm, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

(well except for that one song)

akm, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

His best work outside of Japan was Dalis Car (which is fantastic, not merely good), Rain Tree Crow (the Japan reunion in all but name), "Beginning To Melt" and the "Seed" EP with Jansen & Barbieri and his solo albums "Dreams Of Reason Produce Monsters" and "Bestial Cluster". I've heard much of his other material and collaborations and it's all fine but not as immediate or lasting as the things I just listed.

I hesitate to say we'll never hear another like him but it doesn't seem like a fretless bass revival is upcoming.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 02:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah yes, "Beginning to Melt" is fabulous, that got me back into his work actually. I had a vinyl copy of "Titles" when it came out too but lost it/gave it away and I greatly regret that now.

Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link

RIP ;_;

I wonder if anything of this will see the light of day

petermurphyinfo Peter Murphy
I wil be working with Mick Karn on our second Dali's Car Albumin september. It a pleasure to announce
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onimo, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I hesitate to say we'll never hear another like him but it doesn't seem like a fretless bass revival is upcoming.

And the other master of the fretless bass is already gone.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

do you mean Jaco Pastorius?

StanM, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Pino is still alive, so I guess he does mean Jaco.

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Blasted this really loud in the car yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Gqqb3IPmU

Probably not his most strikingly er archetypal (?) playing, but a great number nevertheless and one of my favourites.

apart from the guy's great fretless-styings, his timing was great, he was a rock.

I remember the slating that the Dali's Car album got when it came out, oh no it's "pretentious", "arch", w/e. Took me a few years to catch up with it and realise it was great. Screw those guys, fucking yahoos.

Pashmina, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Just heard about this, really sad news. If I ever want to hear incredible bass lines I always go for Chic or Japan.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel like this one is missing in this thread. Perhaps Mick Karn's best ever moment as an instrumentalist, at least during his Japan years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxQoB7vEvYU

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 6 January 2011 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link

good one, Geir--you're right on there

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 6 January 2011 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

so the second Dali's Car record is going to be released as InGladAloneness. I do not know how I feel about this, but I feel obliged to listen to it for the Karn. I just wish it weren't called InGladAloneness.

plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Saturday, 11 February 2012 09:58 (twelve years ago) link

Why? Afraid it won't be a fitting finale for his career? I'm quite looking forward to it.

I love when he randomly appears in something I'm listening to, like some Bill Nelson stuff recently. Immediately recognizable.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 11 February 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

This is a one-off track from the collaboration, reworking "Artemis" from The Waking Hour, and not AFAIK on the EP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6mxBvPn99M

All proceeds for this and the EP go to Karn's wife and child. Wish I liked this more.

Sanpaku, Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

I had previously dismissed his solo debut, "Titles". No idea why because it's damn good. "Weather The Windmill" is particularly stunning.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 24 October 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

'Tribal Dawn' is one of the finest basslines he ever composed, IMO! So uniquely Karn.

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Monday, 24 October 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link

Not much discussion on ILM of Richard Barbieri's solo work. I'm listening to "Things Buried" for the first time and quite like it, a bit of a merger of Rain Tree Crow instrumentals but a bit more prog at times.

I heard a track from his latest, "Under A Spell" which I'll listen to next as I heard a track on local college radio and it was great.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 18 October 2021 02:30 (two years ago) link

i like jansen / barbieri worlds in a small room a lot ... it was recorded in tokyo in the mid-80s and has that youtubecore / algo-ambient vibe that is currently popular

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dIbYcXXpnw

not familiar w/ barbieri's solo work but i enjoyed this recent vid where he demonstrates some tin drum style synth timbres on a nord lead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO91uLBsx5w

missingNO, Monday, 18 October 2021 04:50 (two years ago) link

Pretty sure Things Buried used to be on Spotify – there are a couple of tracks from it on the Introduction release from a few years ago. I have one of his records kicking around on my iTunes but I haven’t spent too much time with it.

Barbieri is an incredible texturalist – his work in Japan, obv., but also RTC and the duos with Jansen are excellent. He has this way with evolving pads and melodic lines I find super listenable and pretty unique. You can see why folks like Porcupine Tree have come to him over the years.

As a composer I’m less sold as the solo stuff proper I’ve heard often feels a bit like slightly noodly trip hoppy prog. I will give it another shot tho.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 18 October 2021 12:10 (two years ago) link

Worlds in a Small Room manages to be intimate, unobtrusive and melodic all at the same time, the palette of sounds they use are very warm.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 18 October 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link

Agree -- that's a good'n.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 18 October 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link

(which I note that missingNO had mentioned earlier)

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 18 October 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds8sVhxdvfA

MaresNest, Sunday, 4 September 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link

Not a Rick Roll

MaresNest, Sunday, 4 September 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link

Rick should be glad that Mick didn't do his crabwalk move and steal the show.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 4 September 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

Speaking of Rick, check his first choice here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS2sGGE_pDU

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 4 September 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link


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