Robyn

The difference is that Robyn is generally popular where she's been heard and released, I guess. Brooke Valentine is just as obscure outside the US, I'd imagine, even though her album is fantastic too.

If so, I agree!

(a dislike I don't share at all, but that's beside the point)

I guess I'm just asking for more evidence of this split between pop and Pop.

Mind you, I hardly tend to agree with him too often, but I am going to go back to this album soon, irregardless of my current disdain of it (possibly on the recommendations of my occasionally useful barometer of tunage, Sven T Massacre).

Tho' Alex remains useless at giving me burnt CDs and I am no longer making any for him.

I like pop music and Pop Music, not that I fully comprehend the distinction, and the trouble is that apart from the two Robyn songs which are amazing (and dear god I wish I'd never investigated any further) she is not so much pop as a rubbish Scandinavian version of N Imbruglia or similar. And I do like guitars if they're used in a decent way! Robyn doesn't do this, though. But Edward, you are the person arguing that MIA is neither pop nor Pop!

MIA is still not pop, but you DO like some "Pop" in addition to non-pop things like MIA and grime. Even the most hardened pop-ist or poptimist likes some non-pop.

Biology, as far as second singles off GA albums go, is miles behind "No Good Advice" (but then again, that is one of the greatest singles of all time), but miles ahead of "Love Machine", which I think was rather overrated.

I don't know where this odd idea that I don't like popular things comes from, really. R&B is pretty much my favourite genre, and is also the dominant genre in all charts ever these days as far as I can see. Robyn is completely obscure apart from on the internet and in Sweden!

There are a couple of moments on Robyn's 'Anytime You Like' where she's teetering on the brink of full on female Prince, but it doesn't happen fully/enough. I like it for that reason anyway, despite the slushiness.

Barms we should do a CD-R trade I think. Are you out tomorrow night?
-- Sororah T Massacre (stevem7...), November 23rd, 2005.

I either have a family crisis or a Thanksgiving dinner after work tomorrow, so likely not.

Barima you haven't ASKED for anything. Ask and you shall receive a promise of receiving. Continue hassling and you shall receive, um, more of the same. Continue hassling and you shall receive!

But I'm sure I was whingeing lots on LJ or Gmail about having no broadband and therefore no new tunes. I was pushing the button and waiting patiently and all that.

jaymc - "jack u off" ysi via Daughters of Invention.

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I just noticed last night that both the first and last songs on the album talk about how much pressure she's under.

there are a couple more remixes from the 'Robyn' album available on her site if anyone is interested (just looked now).

also, there's a bunch of other stuff at this fan site (as there usually is at such places) - http://robynmusic.makes.it/ including, for -- Sororah T Massacre a video for "Keep This Fire Burning"

Yeah, this is where I got the "Be Mine" Meatboys remix. The other "Be Mine" remix I didn't like nearly as much.

one of the super weird things about her is that on video she doesn't look anything like any of her photographs.??! and is much cuter than i thought she was.

But there's a distinct...disingenuity about the whole affair -- utterly missing any of the air of vulnerability at the core of the best pop (and that goes for "Be Mine!" -- those lines don't hit half as hard as folks here want them to). I almost get the sense that this whole fascination with persona--with creating this Sassy Swedish Superhott--is so much the focus of this that the failures, regrets that would make it really resonate have a token feel about them. As a result, we get the cartoon R&B songs on one hand and indistinct, desperately-heartbroken ballads on the other -- no in between.

And that's saying nothing of the fact that it's more melodies than tunes -- but that's a whole other argument to be made...

Please tell me you're not a Rachel Stevens fan ok?

There's so much vulnerability in those ballads near the end (which people seem to hate...)

As for the ballads, the best song on this record for me was the last. But it's not just the vulnerability that makes it so.

ot fucking m.

that's as much robyn's fascination as her fans'.