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Dude, that Wolfmother LP rocks way harder than the new Tool does.

It might.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm still annoyed at Wolfmother's decision to ditch the rawer sound of their EP (Vertigo Records vintage 1971!). The re-recorded versions are so lifeless. "The White Unicorn" sounded better taking its time.

Ryan Pitchfork (Ryan Pitchfork), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link

"Then again, BOTH sites ranked Wolfmother higher. Do you people known anything about music?"

Dude, that Wolfmother LP rocks way harder than the new Tool does.

Crack a beer, smoke a joint (you ARE a Tool fan after all) and give it another listen, it's fuckin' great.

The tool I find to be a bit like a more adventurous "Lateralus".

For me, "Aemima" was tops for them. Such a great fucking album.

But anyway, to each their own, but Wolfmother rocks.

-- Erock LAzron (erockzombi...), May 3rd, 2006.

Also, both those indie bands that you mentioned, in my opinion, suck.

And I wouldn't sneer at a Tool fan, I'd just remember how much I used to like them

-- Erock LAzron (erockzombi...), May 3rd, 2006.

OK, who's trolling at my expense here?

Bring Me The Head of ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 05:42 (eighteen years ago) link

one of the reasons i love tool is because "aenima" reminds me of being 16 and being stoned all the time and driving around the wilderness of northern maine with little else to do besides listen to music and, uh, get high. oh, and also because eight years later i still love it, as well as all their other albums.

though i must say: upon only two listens to "10,000 days" i can't say that i'm all that impressed. i heard the first single a month ago and could predict every chord change. but it must grow on me, i suppose.

Emily B (Emily B), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm really surprised at how much i'm loving this new album.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The entire Nu Metal genre was dud

What exactly is "nu-metal" and how does it relate to Tool? I thought "nu metal" basically related to rap-metal, which doesn't seem related to Tool in the slightest. Tool always seemed more aligned with Progressive Metal or Art Metal or Alt Metal or whatever empty moniker you choose for it. It has nothing to do with Korn or Linkin Park.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu-metal

Cee Bee (Cee Bee), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link

owned! wikipedia is the unassailable, definitive, unquestionable source on everything!

Alex in Baghdad, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Wikipedia contains the answers to every question anyone could possibly ask

Cee Bee (Cee Bee), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link

LOCK THIS THREAD

Cee Bee (Cee Bee), Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

what genre is Radiohead an avatar for?

is this a trick question, Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Goth

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Coldplay

strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Both true.

I've been slowly sinking into the album on and off for the last week and a half -- it's taken more time for me to get into than Lateralus but I think I've 'got' the album now, in my own sense of it, and it goes like this: the equivalent of the dramatic closing triptych on Lateralus are the two parts of "10,000 Days" itself, which are placed much earlier in the album. In otherwards, in a weird way, this is less an album that builds up to an explosive ending/epilogue than it is one detailing an extended aftermath, thanks to its sequencing. More thoughts later.

Meantime, though, I'm tickled to have noticed this:

According to Neilsen SoundScan, "10,000 Days" sold a whopping 564,000 copies in its first week here in the US, landing at #1 in the Billboard Top 200 and outselling Pearl Jam's new album (#2) by a little more than 2-to-1.

It seems right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 May 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link

As a fan of the previous albums, I fucking hate this one. So. much.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Sunday, 14 May 2006 00:47 (eighteen years ago) link

The new Pearl Jam is, sadly, so very much better.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Sunday, 14 May 2006 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I must sweetly disagree with you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 May 2006 11:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Perhaps the worst band of all time.

Seth (Sef), Sunday, 14 May 2006 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, that was useful! I don't know what got into me, being impressed by their music, lyrics and art like that. Thanks to your insightful post, I have now seen the light and will never listen to them again. Thank you!

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 14 May 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.pistolwimp.com/media/45019/

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 14 May 2006 12:54 (eighteen years ago) link

holy shit that video is amazing!

punis (punis), Sunday, 14 May 2006 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

The world would be a considerably better place if Maynard had died and Staley survived...

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 14 May 2006 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Are they scared to write a memorable song?

Seth Powell (Sef), Sunday, 14 May 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

The world would be a considerably better place if Maynard had died and Staley survived...

Hmm, now the Lollapalooza 1993 flashbacks are kicking in (Maynard backed up Layne pretty well on "Rooster," it has be said).

Are they scared to write a memorable song?

Desperate but not serious, I see.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 May 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Their new album is amazing. Bought it first day of release and seem to play it over and over again.

BeeOK (boo radley), Sunday, 14 May 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

i like that siegbran finds the time to pop in and dis tool! there is something about this band...they bring it out in people.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i like that siegbran finds the time to pop in and dis tool!

I like it too! I have my parallels. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

my theory is that there are certain bands-- Tool included-- that wouldn't bother people so much if there wasn't such a good reason to despite their fan base.

punis (punis), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

haha
owned! wikipedia is the unassailable, definitive, unquestionable source on everything!

-- Alex in Baghdad (fdslk...), May 4th, 2006.

so, Primus and Tool started nu-metal. Wow. I can see how Rage are linked but if you can say just because the band members of Korn and Linkin Park admire Tool, that they were the god fathers, you'd be a ratard. They probably also like the agression in bands like Pantera, doesn't mean they're god fathers to such a god'forsakin' horrid genre though.

boo! (micarl), Sunday, 14 May 2006 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link

the new CD is solid. takes a few listens and there are some preludes which could be left out but over all, i like it

boo! (micarl), Sunday, 14 May 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i heard a tool fan trying to convert a non-believer a couple weeks ago in the record store and i did kinda want to kill him.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 May 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

new album kinda roolz!

city of gyros (chaki), Sunday, 14 May 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

wait, let me amend that. the other dude was ALREADY a tool fan and the uber-tool fan was still trying to convert him. that's what bugged me. dude was cornered. "HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THEM LIVE?" "nnnn...no" "IF YOU EVER GET A CHANCE TO SEE THEM LIVE OH MY GOD GO!!" it went on like that for quite a while. dude should have said yes.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 14 May 2006 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Lord.

My friend Tom out here says that when he went to get the album on the day of release, they had already sold out at the Best Buy he was at, and the various fans there forlornly looking for a record and commiserating with him on the state of affairs included a Mexican-American woman in her late forties and a biker dude in his late twenties or so. Tool, the band that brings everyone together (when the uberfans don't get in the way).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 May 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Stop Removing or Altering The Tool References From The Article

Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Monday, 15 May 2006 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I like this kid's crazy list of what constitutes a metal band.

"Its sound can change because of technology, but most of the time you can´t guess the release year of a song you don´t know. It doesn´t follow trends."

"Its music does not have lyrics with common topics you can found in radio"

Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Monday, 15 May 2006 01:56 (eighteen years ago) link

btw sry if i suck at this..im new at Wikipedia

A Perfect Tool among many!

George 'the Animal' Steele, Monday, 15 May 2006 02:20 (eighteen years ago) link

with each album the tool fanbase seems to be getting dumber, louder, zealous, thin-skinned and defensive. why?

maybe it's the political climate, or perhaps it's the effect of the internet becoming more pervasive and ubiquitous than ever. perhaps it is the entering of saturn into uranus, activating thelemic archetypes on the third level of the etheric plane. perhaps i am tired and trying too hard.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 15 May 2006 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link

in summation: "DUDE I TOTALLY DRANK MAYNARD'S SWEAT!"

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 15 May 2006 04:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Stoner.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 May 2006 04:05 (eighteen years ago) link

though i must say: upon only two listens to "10,000 days" i can't say that i'm all that impressed. i heard the first single a month ago and could predict every chord change. but it must grow on me, i suppose.

so: did it grow? because after one listen i'm not sure when i'll go back. surprisingly dull. but i have this sneaking suspicion i need to put more time in with it; that i missed something.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

You did. (I am biased.) It took three listens for me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

i shall return to it, and try harder.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

YES DAMN YOU. (I tease.) Keep in mind my little note above -- it's a very oddly structured album but not impenetrable.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

if only i had the money these days to buy drugs

late to the bloom to the er (latebloomer), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
The album's gone platinum in the States and is still in the top ten. I am merry. And it's still my album of the year at this point.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 June 2006 03:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"IF YOU EVER GET A CHANCE TO SEE THEM LIVE OH MY GOD GO!!"

OTM. Seen them in Düsseldorf last week, they're pretty amazing.

StanM (StanM), Monday, 12 June 2006 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The first memory I have of Tool was when I was 16 or 17, and my friend played me that Aenema record, saying how great the band is. I remember staring at the hologram cover, thinking "People actually think this cover is cool?!". When I heard the actual music, it fitted the cover perfectly. Now, I don't have anything against hologram covers per se, but like with prog wankery, I can appreciate them only if they're light-hearted and fun. Because no matter how "deep" and "dark" you try to make it look, it's still a fucking hologram cover!

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 12 June 2006 07:43 (seventeen years ago) link

b-b-but Tuomas if you flip the "deep" "dark" insert around it's an animated picture of a guy sucking his own dick while the band sits on a couch in front of him, with the lead singer stark naked standing up to throw an apparently (ahem)used tissue onto the floor. There's nothing fun about that?

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Monday, 12 June 2006 08:14 (seventeen years ago) link


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