Why is Robert Pollard the most underrated songwritter ever?

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Meddle off Zero to 99 is so great. The whole albums really good.

badg, Thursday, 10 June 2010 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I have enjoyed the occasional robbert paulard

All small bassoons have at one time or another been called fagottino (crüt), Thursday, 10 June 2010 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link

kinda want to make my own Pollard Oughties best-of... which, since I own exactly none of these records, would probably just mean pirating/ripping as many of them as I can, getting super-stoned, throwing everything on shuffle, and deleting every song that doesn't rock my world on the first listen. I'll let you guys know what I end up with.

INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

came across this recently: http://leatherbagmusic.blogspot.com/2010/05/best-of-robert-pollard.html
haven't listened though! seems like a cool selection.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

wow this is wonderful!

love guided by voices, but i've never really progressed past the big GBV albums cuz honestly digging thru all of pollards stuff seems like such a grind...

the dj screwtape letters (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

his first few on matador, not in my airforce and waved out are almost as good as the gbv records he was putting out at the time. his latest one (?) we all got out of the army isn't shabby either

kamerad, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, not in my airforce and waved out are pretty indistinguishable from GBV of that era -- pretty sure those songs were "GBV" songs for all intents and purposes, just that he couldn't put out more than one GBV record a year, or something. They have a lot of the same players. both are pretty essential.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

which one had "subspace biographies"? that song rules

the dj screwtape letters (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

that's on Waved Out -- prob one of Pollard's best rockers! starts out awesome, gets better.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Sounds like Wire that song, this is a good thing

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

really, tho, at the end of every year, Pollard should just: "didn't buy the six albums I put out this year? Here's a playlist of the best 20 songs" ... I'd buy it. maybe that's totally missing the point, but I do find it hard to keep up.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I've tried listening to his post-GBV stuff, but it really isn't very good

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Of the stuff I've heard, which is prob'ly like 5% or sumthin'!

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno, i always like hearing new stuff by him when I put it on, but after a few listens, I rarely go back to it.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd say that first Boston Spaceships record is probably my fave from the last couple years?

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I've heard tell that's good. Of the other stuff I've heard, songs seem fussy + overcooked, his voice is not what it was, don't like this Todd Tobias guy playing all the instruments.

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, it's true -- his voice does seem a little weak these days.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

out of context - but the Owen Pallet cover of Game Of Pricks is really good

Zeno, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to that selection linked above. Holy crap - "First of an Early Go-Getter" sounds like "Hold Your Head High" by Argent!

Darin, Thursday, 10 June 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah the owen pallet cover is great -- arthur russell meets GBV. man, "game of pricks" is quite a song isn't it?

tylerw, Thursday, 10 June 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

"It Is Divine" off this mix really gives me goosebumps....kinda gets me in that classic GBV ballad way like "14 Cheerleader Coldfront"

m@tt h (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 June 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm 4 songs in... songs 2-3 are kinda turkeys. song #4 is awesome though "Frequent Weaver..."

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

okay this mix picks up after an uninspiring start. but then #6 ("Gold") is kinda sucking the wind out of the momentum that had built with #4-5

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 12 June 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

this is great tylerw, thanking u

del griffith, Sunday, 13 June 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Robert's lyrics may be a bit surreal for mass consumption. That may be one reason. He's really clever. That can be a problem too.

ImprovSpirit, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Really loving the new Boston Spaceships record. I feel like this project has a much better hit-to-miss ratio going for it than the stuff under his own name as of late.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 11 September 2010 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

circle of trim off of tower in the fountain of sparks

pop zeus as well

those two. those are the answer to the thread title question

del griffith, Saturday, 23 October 2010 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link

always loved the first track off that tower in the ftn of spark record

avoyoungdro's number (k3vin k.), Saturday, 23 October 2010 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Hows the new one? Haven't gotten my copy yet. But I am super, super excited by what I read on the (excellent) Wires and Waves blog:

Next month, he releases a new record with former GBV guitarist Doug Gillard under the name Lifeguards, and March will see the release of a collaboration called Mars Classroom, made with the guys from underrated '90s indie-rockers Big Dipper.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 January 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

all three of his new ones are pretty strong! the lifeguards one in particular.

tylerw, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, didn't even know the other two were "out there".

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i'm on a promo list for him, for some reason ... i just get download links. but yeah, listening to the mars classroom now -- pretty great! straightforward, catchy pop rock.

tylerw, Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Glad to hear, can't wait to hear these.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 January 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

just chiming in again to say i REALLY like the Mars Classroom LP, maybe more than any Pollard LP in a while ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

^ i agree, even though i'm biased (i play drums on some of it)—it's a real grower, too.

nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa, no shit? yeah, i really dig it -- less ummm proggy than some of his other solo joints? just straight-up, simple tunes, with a nice warm (slightly melancholy) vibe.

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

you see, the thing is, GARY WALEIK is the most underrated songwriter ever.

nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, yeah, maybe. what's the deal with this -- did gary write all the music, and pollard the lyrics?

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

that's right.

nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

cool. i think i read somewhere that big dipper was one of pollard's fave bands ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I picked up the Lifeguards LP on a whim. Back in the early 00s I was a Pollard/GBV devotee for a good while but I haven't bought a Pollard release in about four years. Whether it was declining interest on my part or perceived lack of quality on the part of Pollard (probably a bit of both) but I was drawn in by the first song from the new Lifeguards and I have to say I find it quite good. It's much more "produced" than most Pollard efforts, the arrangements are more sophisticated and it is, for lack of a better word "weirder." Some noisy flourishes, proggy parts, over-the-top hard rock vocals by Pollard, etc. I quite dig it. Gillard's guitar work is excellent.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Sunday, 6 February 2011 03:39 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

lol just got a promo for another pollard record this year -- a new circus devils record! i want to meet someone who is like the world's biggest circus devils fan. they have nine records now!

tylerw, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

best song title so far: Aerial Poop Show (Inst)

tylerw, Friday, 8 July 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

ha! what's the album called? i'll be on the lookout for it. pollard's on a roll this year. i've heard four (4!) of his projects so far and no duds among them

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 8 July 2011 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

Capsized! (exclamation point included)

tylerw, Friday, 8 July 2011 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

So the email I got from Pollard just now says that Let It Beard is the last Boston Spaceships record! Was this announced before and I missed it? Really disappointed because I felt like the Spaceships was definitely the best thing Pollard had going right now.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

huh, really? i hadn't heard that. with all the hype (relatively speaking to other pollard releases) around this one, seems surprising.

tylerw, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

No, that announcement seems to have caught most people out. Real shame, 'cos yeah BS are one of his best, & LiB is probably their best yet.

Wandering Boy Poet, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 12:39 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, the press release I got had the subject line of "The End is Near..." and here's the pertinent part of the email:

The ultimate (and final) Boston Spaceships album. A 75-minute thrill ride through the many forms Pollard has mastered in his three decades of writing and recording, Let It Beard is the White Album meets Quadrophenia meets Jesus Christ Superstar meets Same Place The Fly Got Smashed.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link


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