Stephen Strasburg, pitcher and Scott Boras client

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The 2:44 highlight reel on YouTube is something to see--wow. I just have this bad feeling, though. The first names that pop into my mind are Gooden, Blue, and Kerry Wood. For all of them, the window of dominance was from 5-8 years, with decline setting in within a year or two. And then I think about Clemens as the obvious counter. He fits the pattern too, though, if you treat his arrival in Toronto as the start of a second and, um, different phase of his career. (And no, I don't want to veer off in that direction yet again.) At the other end of the spectrum, Ryan and Johnson both took a few years to get going. I know that's a simplistic reduction; Seaver was a hard thrower/big-strikeout-pitcher who arrived brilliantly and lasted, and I'm sure there were many others. But I do think they'll need to thread the needle to keep Strasburg healthy and a big-draw strikeout pitcher at the same time.

clemenza, Thursday, 10 June 2010 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Just left w/ the lead in Cleveland (game on TBS) ... wtf w/ subpar moundskeeping? Breaking an ankle would be a feel-bad story.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

best pitching debuts by Game Score (Strasburg's GS was 75):

http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6582

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 June 2010 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link

which is ridiculous, total apples and oranges... ie, look at the pitch counts, there's no way SS would be left in a game over 80 pitches at this point in his career.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 21 June 2010 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link

well, the thing is that he's just there to help the team win, and you know, the rest of it is just gravy

mookieproof, Monday, 21 June 2010 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Shasta, as usu I hv no idea wtf your point might be if you intended one.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link

also Strasburg's total pitches in his 3 starts: 94, 95, 85

you are a confused man

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Moyer on protecting Strasburg's arm: "If you want to get good at something, practice. You have to throw the baseball."

Andy K, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Moyer is right on point.

van smack, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

shit is deep, son

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2008/07/340x_farnsworth.jpg

sanskrit, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Jamie Moyer, expert on pitchers who can break a pane of glass

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

looks like strasburg just doesn't have what it takes to win games >:)

ciderpress, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

ray knight and rob dibble debate straburg. i wondered whether to put this here or in the dunmbass analysis thread. i'm attaching a link w/ the clip and commentary from washington post's dan steinberg. pretty amusing.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/06/dibble_and_knight_debate_stras.html#more

j.q higgins, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

from the AP, via dan steinberg:

"Nationals pitching phenom Stephen Strasburg already is a household name -- except in Ozzie Guillen's household. In downplaying his team's recent sweep at Washington, the White Sox manager said: "We only scored one run against the first guy, Starborough, or whatever his name is.""

j.q higgins, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Scarbury, Scarborough...

MASN was showing fans at the stadium before Strasburg's debut, and one dude said something like "STRASSBORG IS THE REAL DEAL!!!"

Andy K, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kui9yuMEaV1qava2to1_400.jpg

Washington Nationals pitcher Stephen Starburns

mayor jingleberries, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

community dude on the right could totally be a smarmy third MLB Network announcer
he has Amsinger/Vasgersian hair

sanskrit, Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

so Jose DeLeon sruck out a lotta guys in his first 5 starts...

I guess they'll leave him in only one more inning? two?

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

he didn't have v. many pitches did he?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

ian desmond is not steve's fav teammate rite now

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link

no, not sure he's at 80 TP yet

game over?

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link

92 pitches

2-0 braves

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link

not a clutch performer

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Total Nationals runs scored in Strasburg's last three starts: 1

I DIED, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess the rest of the guys just want to stand back and admire him.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Clippard's W/IP: 8/48

Strasburg's W/IP: 2/31.2

RIP

Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know why I'm following Keith Law on Twitter, but ugh:
"Strasburg pitched well enough to win." But he didn't win. So whose fault is that - Strasburg's, or the stat's?

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

He is relentlessly negative about everything but I still enjoy following him.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

klaw is so fucking wrong there; the cliche "pitched well enough to win" does not refer to the stat

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

"pitched well enough to [get the] win" vs. "pitched well enough [for his team] to win"

I think the former is implied more often than the latter.

Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Here is where klaw is so fucking wrong:

156. Throwing Muses – “Bright Yellow Gun.” The most rock-infused song from a promising but generally uneven band. And I think I need a little poison.

Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Songs by Soul Coughing, Milla, and Sublime ahead of it, btw.

Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

but in this case even "get the win" is absolutely synonymous with the team winning--not like the bullpen blew it or something. desperate overreach by klaw.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

And Sponge.

Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost

Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

The fuck is a Clockhammer

sorry

Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Klaw on pitcher wins is like deej on Gucci mane at this point

ksmh (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

how harshly do you judge keith law when it comes to his tastes/opinions about music

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Very harshly

ksmh (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I had a brief twitter argument with him about real estate.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha awesome

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, and Bobby Valentine loves his old boss Dubya, who effing cares

xxp

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Wilpon?

ksmh (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

He believed that real estate should only be valued based on square footage and location.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

for a "smart" person, he is a complete moron

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't blame Klaw for instinctively adding piss to the punchbowl, cuz everybody on ESPN and Fox (save Joe Morgan) sets up all these "if" criteria for Strasburg to 'deserve' an All-Star spot, which they will chuck on July 8 no matter what. Reminds me of Obama fans.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

not sure what you mean?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

As far as Harvard grads go, he is no cave17matt.

Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Strasburg fans to skeptics when he gets his All-Star spot: "Would you rather have McCain??"

(I'm not paasionately against him being in the ASG, far less deserving people will be there, like an Oriole)

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link


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