The 2:44 highlight reel on YouTube is something to see--wow. I just have this bad feeling, though. The first names that pop into my mind are Gooden, Blue, and Kerry Wood. For all of them, the window of dominance was from 5-8 years, with decline setting in within a year or two. And then I think about Clemens as the obvious counter. He fits the pattern too, though, if you treat his arrival in Toronto as the start of a second and, um, different phase of his career. (And no, I don't want to veer off in that direction yet again.) At the other end of the spectrum, Ryan and Johnson both took a few years to get going. I know that's a simplistic reduction; Seaver was a hard thrower/big-strikeout-pitcher who arrived brilliantly and lasted, and I'm sure there were many others. But I do think they'll need to thread the needle to keep Strasburg healthy and a big-draw strikeout pitcher at the same time.
― clemenza, Thursday, 10 June 2010 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Just left w/ the lead in Cleveland (game on TBS) ... wtf w/ subpar moundskeeping? Breaking an ankle would be a feel-bad story.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 June 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
best pitching debuts by Game Score (Strasburg's GS was 75):
http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6582
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 June 2010 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link
which is ridiculous, total apples and oranges... ie, look at the pitch counts, there's no way SS would be left in a game over 80 pitches at this point in his career.
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 21 June 2010 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link
well, the thing is that he's just there to help the team win, and you know, the rest of it is just gravy
― mookieproof, Monday, 21 June 2010 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Shasta, as usu I hv no idea wtf your point might be if you intended one.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link
also Strasburg's total pitches in his 3 starts: 94, 95, 85
you are a confused man
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Moyer on protecting Strasburg's arm: "If you want to get good at something, practice. You have to throw the baseball."
― Andy K, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Moyer is right on point.
― van smack, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link
shit is deep, son
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2008/07/340x_farnsworth.jpg
― sanskrit, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Jamie Moyer, expert on pitchers who can break a pane of glass
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
looks like strasburg just doesn't have what it takes to win games >:)
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link
ray knight and rob dibble debate straburg. i wondered whether to put this here or in the dunmbass analysis thread. i'm attaching a link w/ the clip and commentary from washington post's dan steinberg. pretty amusing.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/06/dibble_and_knight_debate_stras.html#more
― j.q higgins, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
from the AP, via dan steinberg:
"Nationals pitching phenom Stephen Strasburg already is a household name -- except in Ozzie Guillen's household. In downplaying his team's recent sweep at Washington, the White Sox manager said: "We only scored one run against the first guy, Starborough, or whatever his name is.""
― j.q higgins, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Scarbury, Scarborough...
MASN was showing fans at the stadium before Strasburg's debut, and one dude said something like "STRASSBORG IS THE REAL DEAL!!!"
― Andy K, Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kui9yuMEaV1qava2to1_400.jpg
Washington Nationals pitcher Stephen Starburns
― mayor jingleberries, Thursday, 24 June 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
community dude on the right could totally be a smarmy third MLB Network announcerhe has Amsinger/Vasgersian hair
― sanskrit, Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
so Jose DeLeon sruck out a lotta guys in his first 5 starts...
I guess they'll leave him in only one more inning? two?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link
he didn't have v. many pitches did he?
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link
ian desmond is not steve's fav teammate rite now
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link
no, not sure he's at 80 TP yet
game over?
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link
92 pitches
2-0 braves
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:24 (thirteen years ago) link
not a clutch performer
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Total Nationals runs scored in Strasburg's last three starts: 1
― I DIED, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I guess the rest of the guys just want to stand back and admire him.
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Clippard's W/IP: 8/48
Strasburg's W/IP: 2/31.2
RIP
― Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't know why I'm following Keith Law on Twitter, but ugh:"Strasburg pitched well enough to win." But he didn't win. So whose fault is that - Strasburg's, or the stat's?
― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link
He is relentlessly negative about everything but I still enjoy following him.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
klaw is so fucking wrong there; the cliche "pitched well enough to win" does not refer to the stat
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
"pitched well enough to [get the] win" vs. "pitched well enough [for his team] to win"
I think the former is implied more often than the latter.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Here is where klaw is so fucking wrong:
156. Throwing Muses – “Bright Yellow Gun.” The most rock-infused song from a promising but generally uneven band. And I think I need a little poison.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Songs by Soul Coughing, Milla, and Sublime ahead of it, btw.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
but in this case even "get the win" is absolutely synonymous with the team winning--not like the bullpen blew it or something. desperate overreach by klaw.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
And Sponge.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost
The fuck is a Clockhammer
sorry
lol
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Klaw on pitcher wins is like deej on Gucci mane at this point
― ksmh (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
how harshly do you judge keith law when it comes to his tastes/opinions about music
Very harshly
― ksmh (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I had a brief twitter argument with him about real estate.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha awesome
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, and Bobby Valentine loves his old boss Dubya, who effing cares
xxp
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Wilpon?
― ksmh (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
He believed that real estate should only be valued based on square footage and location.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link
for a "smart" person, he is a complete moron
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I can't blame Klaw for instinctively adding piss to the punchbowl, cuz everybody on ESPN and Fox (save Joe Morgan) sets up all these "if" criteria for Strasburg to 'deserve' an All-Star spot, which they will chuck on July 8 no matter what. Reminds me of Obama fans.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
not sure what you mean?
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
As far as Harvard grads go, he is no cave17matt.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Strasburg fans to skeptics when he gets his All-Star spot: "Would you rather have McCain??"
(I'm not paasionately against him being in the ASG, far less deserving people will be there, like an Oriole)
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link