Music Criticism in Video Form

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this is a masterpiece!
http://www.tubafrenzy.org/weblog/mp3/HyperEnoughPart2_TheDJsRevenge.mp3

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

modz plz mercy kill this thread, thanking you

ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Electronic Wuss one's spot-on. I'm just dreaming here, but if propagated widely enough I think it could kill off that whole genre.

Someone needs to check with continuity about that earring that starts showing up about a minute in on the Chris Brown one.

dad a, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

the only youtube things i ever liked were those Save The Album ones. cuz i will pretty much always prefer listening to musicians talk about their fave albums then listen to a rock critic talk about anything. not that they are all great (the save the album things), but i just like the idea. i've always been a fan of the desert island disc/invisible jukebox/blindfold test/etc/etc feature with musicians. probably more a fan of that kinda thing than i am a fan of most rock crit.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

do you like listening to rock critics at all?

ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link

If anyone's interested, I just found the one I did: http://vimeo.com/7391295.

I only filmed it seven months ago and I already disagree with some of the absolute positions I take here. Also why do I care so much whether Brian Wilson's incoherent moans are from beyond edge of mental illness? Never record yourself doing anything.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm sure someone's mentioned it on this thread but it's absolutely ridiculous to review music in video format without including bits of the music or even clips from their videos or live shows. Weak, imo.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

"do you like listening to rock critics at all?"

not too many of them. i don't really read rock crit much at all anymore. i read the reviews in decibel just to see what people are raving about there. i read ilm obviously. i think i would like a subscription to the wire because i am interested in some of the things they write about. i admire finney, sherburne, and stelfox. strange coincidence, that also happens to be the name of the law firm that represents me. wait, does tim write for the wire? in any case, they write about things that i become increasingly more interested in as time goes on. and write (and think) in a way that is interesting to me. i'd like to subscribe to a good classical mag too (but i do get jon lewis on ilm for free). i think i'd be all set. most "rock" writing is abysmal and impossible to read. let alone watch on video! talking about critical writing and reviews. there is still good historical journalism about music out there. even though it gets harder and harder to find.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i feel you on that, and i would totally subscribe to the Wire if it wasn't so damn expensive in the US

ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Decibel's the only music magazine I really love. i also read Pitchfork, and sometimes the New York Times and Village Voice music sections. and some blogs. but i've been looking at stuff in other music magazines at the bookstore lately and not too much appealed to me

ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

wax poetics is great usually

the dj screwtape letters (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

okay, maybe "abysmal" is too strong a word. how about "not really worth reading unless i'm really bored and stuck somewhere and there is nothing else to read". that's more like it.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah. i just wish more magazines covered different bands and published more longform stuff. the world doesn't need twelve more articles on She & Him imo

ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link

wax poetics is great usually

― the dj screwtape letters (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, June 9, 2010 5:58 PM (3 minutes ago)

i've heard ppl say that here; i should buy a copy

ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Without wanting to big up my own show, I think Jordan is right to say that probably what made it more palatable was that it was in dialogue form - I think if music crit lacks anything by and large it's a sense of real life interaction between different viewpoints. One dude talking into a camera doesn't solve that. Most of my intentions* for the show were always to make it more like ILM-on-TV rather than Pitchfork-on-TV.

(*word chosen intentionally)

Tim F, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKDVCc34AXI

r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Decibel's the only music magazine I really love. i also read Pitchfork, and sometimes the New York Times and Village Voice music sections. and some blogs. but i've been looking at stuff in other music magazines at the bookstore lately and not too much appealed to me

ksh, you need to all get up on this: http://thequietus.com

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

there was a short-lived rock-crit show on VH-1 circa 1995: "Four on the Floor" starring some ex-colleagues of mine from r0lling $tone etc.

johnny la rue's pajama party (m coleman), Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link

brad nelson is that bookshelf from ikea

⚖ on my truck (dyao), Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

four years pass...

*spends a moment pondering whether/how much he really wants to watch someone named Anthony Fantano talk about white people and hip-hop*

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 20 February 2015 04:04 (nine years ago) link

Why do so many people who make youtube videos of themselves talking talk in that exact same "I am a smart guy recording a video of myself" voice?

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 20 February 2015 04:06 (nine years ago) link

hi -citta8 hours ago

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walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 20 February 2015 04:11 (nine years ago) link

lol i didn't realize ilm had a thread about this guy much less a user who was actually excited about his potential (?)

i also doubt very much whether i want to watch this video

dyl, Friday, 20 February 2015 07:42 (nine years ago) link

woof @ this thread

markers is a prophet

i gotta remove that vlog from vimeo

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 20 February 2015 08:33 (nine years ago) link

that bookshelf was from target

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 20 February 2015 08:34 (nine years ago) link

this guy has gotten gradually more insane over the past 5 years, its been 'interesting' to watch. is this what being a music critic does to you?

ciderpress, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link

does weird me out that this dude showed up right around the time i stopped writing rock crit on the regular. the game needed an anthony ______o to annoy it.

da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link

You all will remember this day when this dude takes over the world.

― ksh, Wednesday, June 9, 2010 1:14 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dude's awesome.

― ksh, Wednesday, June 9, 2010 12:02 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link

anthOny______o

contenderizer, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link

i find that i cannot watch his videos

contenderizer, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link

not only are they painful to watch but his irrtating voice and facial expressions ricochet around in my mind long after, that irritating false authoritativeness that seems to come solely from assuming he can get to the "correct" analysis of something because he is "smart"

walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 20 February 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

i'm just thankful youtube seems to have figured out somehow to reduce the frequency of his videos in my search results after accidentally clicking on them a few times

j., Friday, 20 February 2015 17:15 (nine years ago) link

obv this is comically vain, but it's like..."gee to make financial sense of being a full-time rock crit you'd have to be comfortable making big, obnoxious faux-quantitative evaluations of things that you will be increasingly not the target audience for as you age, believe i'll find new fields to plow and just stick to the occasional rock-related blog post and being a dink on ilx" meanwhile the The Dark Half was going on in Connecticut

da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link

Ladies and gentlemen, the gangsta rap pewdiepie is here

croup, you can seriously stuff the idea that you left rock criticism because you were somehow "above" it

i thought i was throwing in enough self-depreciation and acknowledgement of financial truths to avoid looking like that's what i'm doing, but guess not

da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link

i mean i worked as a gossip blogger for a couple years after, i'm not saying that's "above" rockcrit

da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link

word

but do allow me the vanity of seeing this dillpickle as like, a version of myself that didn't get over the idea of rating the rhymes of teenagers being a life purpose

da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link

accent on the word "rating"

da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link

lest it sound like i don't respect music journalism

da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link

or more thoughtful critical appreciations of work

da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link

i suspect that a substantial measure measure of AF's success owes to his appearance and tone. he has the face of children's show host, unremarkable yet extremely pliable, prone to rubbery, theatrical exaggeration. his expressions seem not expressive of an inner state, but contrived in an actorly manner to illustrate this or that point. while he speaks in a blandly authoritative manner, he's by no means deep thinker, and he throws in plenty of goofy asides to let you know that he's a "fun guy". all of this makes his videos easy to follow and soothing in the manner of crap network television.

contenderizer, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

oh he could definitely be gene shalit someday

da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link

if submitted to looping videos of fantano reviews i would admit to anything, it's absolute t o r t u r e to sit through, like get to the fucking point already - probably his audience enjoys lenghty hyperactive youtube hosts/channels more than i do

can easily see why it's popular though, seems to me it has a very calculated appeal like sean parkers international hipster playlist on spotify

niels, Friday, 20 February 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link

if this is "popular" it's as good an argument for wiping out human beings as any

f***kin good lookin for a knacker (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 February 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link

i suspect that a substantial measure measure of AF's success owes to his appearance and tone. he has the face of children's show host, unremarkable yet extremely pliable, prone to rubbery, theatrical exaggeration. his expressions seem not expressive of an inner state, but contrived in an actorly manner to illustrate this or that point.

not realizing where i was i assumed "af" meant arcade fire. still works kinda


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