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― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I was thinking this would be about critics tearing music videos apart beavis & butthead/MST3K style, where all you would see is a silhouette maybe.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link
video is a more forgiving and flexible medium than prose, i.e. allows a lot of more divisive stylistic chops to be sidestepped completely and a lot of observations are simpler to express in realtime. it's quicker&less effort also. reading a tool fan trying to spot instances of the fibonacci sequence in lateralus wld be awful, but youtube is like an anaesthetic. vlogs are shit. all you guys are fools for even imagining them imo.
― ogmor, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link
irl lol, but
youtube is like an anaesthetic. vlogs are shit. all you guys are fools for even imagining them imo.
Huh?
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
minutes with no sound samples (wtf is up with that, btw?)
I think he used to have sound samples in some of his older review. Whatever happened?
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i thought he did too -- copyright issues, maybe?
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm trying to think where video offers an advantage over an audio review. Would you pull up spectrum analyses of records?I think it could be a useful to show where someone maybe ripped off someone else, but it isn't immediately obvious by listening to it.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link
you could slowly pan over album artwork and pictures of the band while actors read quotes from the musicians, reading rainbow style.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
interpretive dance
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdmSFXKM_QU
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
xp to ksh
video is less abstract and more sensory, & that dazzle sweetens the transmission of all sorts of shit. ppl will watch lots of shit they wldn't read, changing the ratio of yr senses can have a numbing effect, youtube is like an audiac, the headphone anaesthetic where you wld increase the volume till you couldn't feel any pain, or presumably, hear afterwards
― ogmor, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
the laurie anderson curlers line gets me every time!
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
wow. i should just stop reading & watching more on YouTube O_O
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
isn't mark prindle the guy who gave terrible reviews to all the miles davis discs?
yeah, i'm pretty sure it's him. OH BOY, SOMEDAY I HOPE TO HEAR THOSE REVIEWS IN "V"LOG FORM.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
mark prindle's hyperactive reviews always made me think he'd sound like beavis.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
besides the derogatis show, are there any people doing criticism in audio form
I wish audio criticism wasn't just guys talking about music, but rather making music in response. It would be fun if some music website ran a regular column in which the reviewer wrote and performed songs that described/responded to/criticized/analyzed new releases.
― dad a, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyasBBoQqCA
there is this
― da croupier, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRmIfn85d3Q
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i used to own that mini Marshall amp
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
dying @ Electronic Wuss video tbh
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
yung whiney done found his very own twitter gimmick i see
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
this is a masterpiece!http://www.tubafrenzy.org/weblog/mp3/HyperEnoughPart2_TheDJsRevenge.mp3
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
modz plz mercy kill this thread, thanking you
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Electronic Wuss one's spot-on. I'm just dreaming here, but if propagated widely enough I think it could kill off that whole genre.
Someone needs to check with continuity about that earring that starts showing up about a minute in on the Chris Brown one.
― dad a, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link
the only youtube things i ever liked were those Save The Album ones. cuz i will pretty much always prefer listening to musicians talk about their fave albums then listen to a rock critic talk about anything. not that they are all great (the save the album things), but i just like the idea. i've always been a fan of the desert island disc/invisible jukebox/blindfold test/etc/etc feature with musicians. probably more a fan of that kinda thing than i am a fan of most rock crit.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link
do you like listening to rock critics at all?
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
If anyone's interested, I just found the one I did: http://vimeo.com/7391295.
I only filmed it seven months ago and I already disagree with some of the absolute positions I take here. Also why do I care so much whether Brian Wilson's incoherent moans are from beyond edge of mental illness? Never record yourself doing anything.
― Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm sure someone's mentioned it on this thread but it's absolutely ridiculous to review music in video format without including bits of the music or even clips from their videos or live shows. Weak, imo.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
"do you like listening to rock critics at all?"
not too many of them. i don't really read rock crit much at all anymore. i read the reviews in decibel just to see what people are raving about there. i read ilm obviously. i think i would like a subscription to the wire because i am interested in some of the things they write about. i admire finney, sherburne, and stelfox. strange coincidence, that also happens to be the name of the law firm that represents me. wait, does tim write for the wire? in any case, they write about things that i become increasingly more interested in as time goes on. and write (and think) in a way that is interesting to me. i'd like to subscribe to a good classical mag too (but i do get jon lewis on ilm for free). i think i'd be all set. most "rock" writing is abysmal and impossible to read. let alone watch on video! talking about critical writing and reviews. there is still good historical journalism about music out there. even though it gets harder and harder to find.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel you on that, and i would totally subscribe to the Wire if it wasn't so damn expensive in the US
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Decibel's the only music magazine I really love. i also read Pitchfork, and sometimes the New York Times and Village Voice music sections. and some blogs. but i've been looking at stuff in other music magazines at the bookstore lately and not too much appealed to me
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
wax poetics is great usually
― the dj screwtape letters (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
okay, maybe "abysmal" is too strong a word. how about "not really worth reading unless i'm really bored and stuck somewhere and there is nothing else to read". that's more like it.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah. i just wish more magazines covered different bands and published more longform stuff. the world doesn't need twelve more articles on She & Him imo
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link
wax poetics is great usually― the dj screwtape letters (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, June 9, 2010 5:58 PM (3 minutes ago)
― the dj screwtape letters (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, June 9, 2010 5:58 PM (3 minutes ago)
i've heard ppl say that here; i should buy a copy
― ksh, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Without wanting to big up my own show, I think Jordan is right to say that probably what made it more palatable was that it was in dialogue form - I think if music crit lacks anything by and large it's a sense of real life interaction between different viewpoints. One dude talking into a camera doesn't solve that. Most of my intentions* for the show were always to make it more like ILM-on-TV rather than Pitchfork-on-TV.
(*word chosen intentionally)
― Tim F, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
http://sharetv.org/images/kenny_everett_video_show_uk-show.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PXwS1IJVmVA/0.jpg
http://www.tvcream.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/kennyeverett1.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKDVCc34AXI
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
ksh, you need to all get up on this: http://thequietus.com
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
there was a short-lived rock-crit show on VH-1 circa 1995: "Four on the Floor" starring some ex-colleagues of mine from r0lling $tone etc.
― johnny la rue's pajama party (m coleman), Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
brad nelson is that bookshelf from ikea
― ⚖ on my truck (dyao), Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
http://genius.com/discussions/138517-Anthony-fantano-on-white-people-and-hip-hop
― hunangarage, Friday, 20 February 2015 04:02 (nine years ago) link
*spends a moment pondering whether/how much he really wants to watch someone named Anthony Fantano talk about white people and hip-hop*
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 20 February 2015 04:04 (nine years ago) link
Why do so many people who make youtube videos of themselves talking talk in that exact same "I am a smart guy recording a video of myself" voice?
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 20 February 2015 04:06 (nine years ago) link
hi -citta8 hours ago "art doesn't belong to anyone" - white peopleReply · 46
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Friday, 20 February 2015 04:11 (nine years ago) link
lol i didn't realize ilm had a thread about this guy much less a user who was actually excited about his potential (?)
i also doubt very much whether i want to watch this video
― dyl, Friday, 20 February 2015 07:42 (nine years ago) link
woof @ this thread
markers is a prophet
i gotta remove that vlog from vimeo
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 20 February 2015 08:33 (nine years ago) link
that bookshelf was from target
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 20 February 2015 08:34 (nine years ago) link
this guy has gotten gradually more insane over the past 5 years, its been 'interesting' to watch. is this what being a music critic does to you?
― ciderpress, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link
does weird me out that this dude showed up right around the time i stopped writing rock crit on the regular. the game needed an anthony ______o to annoy it.
― da croupier, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link
I don't like Fantano's videos but I thought the Quietus article was good. I enjoyed his description of the guitar sound on Plastic Surgery Disasters .
― JRN, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link
My favorite 13 records would be an incredibly boring list― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, January 13, 2021 2:26 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, January 13, 2021 2:26 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
otm
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 21:42 (three years ago) link
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMRsgcdER/
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 24 September 2021 23:33 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jUr57dIMq4
I only know him as a meme but this popped up - I assume it's not his best work or anything but... he doesn't say really anything? Point to their influences and "they've got some good hooks here."
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 29 August 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link
Ha ha
Drake somehow loses in feud with Fantano
― You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Saturday, 17 September 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link
a low point for dignity
― imago, Saturday, 17 September 2022 07:55 (one year ago) link
it's like two complete morons trying to outsmart each other. i feel like we're the real losers for giving them our attention. oh well.
― ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Sunday, 18 September 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link
fuck this guy
― formerly abanana (dat), Thursday, 11 May 2023 05:38 (ten months ago) link
Well yeah but what happened now
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 May 2023 05:59 (ten months ago) link
idk but afaict he still hasn't apologised at all for the video where he told "SJWs" to drink bleach.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 11 May 2023 06:31 (ten months ago) link
I've basically only heard of this guy on here... but Activision is suing him for declaratory judgment, b/c he apparently (a) made a pizza-themed TikTok video where he says "It's enough slices!"; (b) made that audio available for use as a sort of meme on TikTok (where is has since been used in "hundreds of thousands" of other videos); and (c) is now threatening to sue Activision for using it in a Crash Bandicoot–themed video, if they don't pay him $$$. Activision says they relied on TikTok's representation that the audio was freely available for commercial use, and that they also agreed to remove the video when he complained.
― Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Thursday, 27 July 2023 22:02 (eight months ago) link
Was going to express an opinion on Fantano but cannot be bothered.instead, let's share some non-shitty music "reaction" channels.JustJP - https://youtube.com/@JustJPInto The Music - https://youtube.com/@intothemusic908The Charismatic Voice - https://youtube.com/@TheCharismaticVoiceObviously 99% of music reaction channels are completely irredeemable, but these three pick interesting music and have interesting things to say about it, that's the standard I'm looking for, you would think that's not a high bar, but
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 July 2023 13:26 (eight months ago) link