bring him one bathrobe???
― tehresa, Friday, 1 February 2008 07:11 (sixteen years ago) link
and a cigar
well see it's more about finding which area bars they hang out at first bathrobes and cigars I have plenty of
― El Tomboto, Friday, 1 February 2008 07:16 (sixteen years ago) link
you pimp
― tehresa, Friday, 1 February 2008 07:18 (sixteen years ago) link
i just finally watched the 4th episode and it was a lot better than the 3rd. the two obvious weak spots this season are the serial-killer thing (which i initially defended on one of these threads because i didn't fully appreciate the stupidity of it) and the fabricating reporter. but the rest of it's good. most of the newspaper stuff is right on -- like the federal courts guy saying "do you want one reporter covering two court systems?", i worked at a paper that did exactly that. (same paper made me cover an entire 50,000-student public school system AND a state university, because they'd cut the university reporter position.) but my favorite bits in the episode were small character moments: herc and carver talking in the parking lot; the grin daniels allows himself at rawls' desk; kima with elijah; michael with his mom. i think those are the payoffs you can get in a 5th season when you've put so much time into back stories and characters.
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 1 February 2008 08:50 (sixteen years ago) link
also r.i.p. prop joe. one of my faves. sold out by method man.
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 1 February 2008 08:58 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't know why i keep scanning this thread and risking/seeing major character death spoilers when i haven't even finished s4 yet.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 1 February 2008 09:10 (sixteen years ago) link
just assume that everybody gets killed. that way you'll be surprised by the ones who don't.
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 1 February 2008 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link
tipsy otm, I love the little moments in these episodes like Herc and Carver, etc.
the Wire auction I went to last week was a little disappointing, the stuff being auctioned wasn't as cool as what they had at the one my dad went to on one of the show's actual sets circa season 4, but some of that stuff is now part of an eBay auction too: http://stores.ebay.com/hbothewireauction so you could possibly get a DVD set signed by the cast for as little as a hundred bucks
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link
looooool okay mcnulty in the newspaper office pretty much justifies the whole serial killer storyline.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link
RONG
― milo z, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Has Bunk had any dialogue that didn't involve berating McNulty for being a fuck up?
― milo z, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link
o yeah, in the bar about white chicks in Aruba
― milo z, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link
When Homicide got the OT approval for a second detective, why was Greggs brought on instead of Freamon? Is it because Command didn't know Freamon was helping out McNutty?
― Leee, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link
ep6 was definitely the first time The Wire has mentioned O'Malley as a past mayor (I guess as a gesture of finally saying "Carcetti is not Wire-world O'Malley, dammit!"), but was that the first time the show's mentioned Schmoke?
― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link
although acknowledging O'Malley's existence in the show's universe really kind of screws with all the season 3/4 talk about how Carcetti couldn't get elected because he's the "wrong color" when apparently all that time he could've cited O'M as a recent white mayor.
― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link
wasn't Freamon supposed to be working the case against Davis?
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
"Nevermind" MUST be the absolute coldest thing to say to someone before shooting him in the skull, right?
― Mike Dixn, Friday, 15 February 2008 09:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Could somebody please tell me (without spoilers) if this season has gotten better since the end of ep 2? Thx.
― 31g, Friday, 15 February 2008 09:33 (sixteen years ago) link
mike dxn i think that's from after s05 right? so stfu on this thread.
31g -- yes it does, but it's still the weakest series so far :(
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 15 February 2008 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link
disagree
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 15 February 2008 10:54 (sixteen years ago) link
it's smaller in scope but what do you expect with only 10 episodes
that's only two fewer than series 2. if anything it's larger in scope, though! so it needs more space than it has to do what it needs to. hamsterdam was a big stretch, plasubility-wise, but they sold it well. although the consequences of what mcnulty's doing are convincing, and i respect it more than i did initially, i still find it really hard to get behing the fake serial killer story. i guess it's david simon's take on iraq, more than any previous series. (+ omar as osama bin laden anyone?)
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 15 February 2008 11:00 (sixteen years ago) link
stupid serial killer shenanigans get stupider
― milo z, Monday, 18 February 2008 05:40 (sixteen years ago) link
+ omar as osama bin laden anyone?
i would love to see a diagram of the inside of your mind sometime
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 February 2008 11:28 (sixteen years ago) link
the series is pretty clearly an extended skit on the WoT; i don't think he's doing a direct one-for-one thing, it's not an allegory, but the extent to which marlo will fuck up his business to settle scores with omar... i think a case could be made. otoh the imaginary serial killer is osama too.
this ep was better, lol at munch cameo, powerhouse clay davis shit, but seriously this serial killer thing was a terrible idea.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 18 February 2008 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link
this episode was great EXCEPT for the increasing absurdity of the serial killer plot. Handing out hours and help to everyone in homicide? This isn't going to be noticed? A serial killer abducts a victim, phones it in to the paper - and no one meets with the paper except for one homicide detective? A serial killer in Baltimore, images of the newest victim splashed all over the paper (and national news) - and no one working in the DC shelter is going to notice a striking resemblance to their newly arrived charge?
― milo z, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link
The shelter was in Richmond VA, right? Still far-fetched.
― eater, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link
I felt so bad for that hobo i wanted to puke.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link
munch!
― adam, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Also, doesn't Baltimore have street/traffic cameras everywhere? Mightn't somebody go look up the footage of the missing guy's corner and see the abduction? I think earlier seasons mostly stood up better to this kind of nitpicking.
― eater, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link
im sure mcnulty would consider camera angles
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link
how are they planning to bring the case in? won't they have to explain an illegal wiretap, etc?
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link
naw they wait for marlo to be in the room w/lol hueg greek drug shipment then say they got a tip is all
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Thank god for CIs.
― milo z, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
disappointed that Bubs isn't getting more time
― milo z, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
drugs on the table.
i want them to pull it off tbh.
but i guess it's a race for the prize w. omar.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
no they're not everywhere, they're very deliberately placed in mostly poor, non-white areas
― am0n, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link
that was the first time omar broke Bunk's 'no more killing' pledge, t/f?
― bnw, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Griggs putting together IKEA furniture is the closest they've gotten to anything resembling reality this season.
That said, I'm still kind of enjoying this.
― righteousmaelstrom, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Omar killed one guy in the stash house, I think
― milo z, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
I forgot you won't be reading the non-realtime thread, NRQ, but I was calling you out over there - seems no-one else subscribes to your angling that the serial killer plot is Simon's skewiff take on the war on Iraq. Care to expand…?
― czn, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 09:34 (sixteen years ago) link
srsly? well i think it is partly because of evidence that DS likes rubbish analogies. on the commentary for s03e01, at the start, when the towers are getting blown up, he says, "this show is about the collapse of the american empire... and it begins with towers getting blown up... that's all i'm going to say." i am paraphrasing, but, seriously, not very much.
sooooo when this series started with an overstated version of a scene in 'homicide' in which a guy is made to think a photocopier is a lie detector, and bunk says "the bigger the lie, the more people believe..." -- if DS reckons this show is about the collapse of the american empire, what possible subtext could be read into that scene, put at the very start of the series?
so from that the baltimore sun story is not unlike the judith miller saga at the NYT, right? it serves her interests to get a big story, it serves washington's interest too, or, in this case the BPD. and then of course money has to be diverted from more important thinks to fund the investigation/war.
i'm not saying this is a one-to-one mapping exercise, but i do think that's how DS thinks, and though obviously for dipshit english lit grads what DS thinks "doesn't matter", well, you know, maybe it kind of guides certain aspects of the show.
i don't think it's a skewiff take on the war, exactly, just sort of inappropriate and jarring. well, maybe i do: personally i don't think anyone in power really believed iraq posed a threat in 2002, whereas people believe in the serial killer.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link
wtf does "skewiff" mean?
― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link
I dunno about 9/11, but I read the Barksdale-Marlo transition as Simon's commentary about contemporary American capitalism, with Marlo as the faceless, inhuman multinational that's destroying the community (which, yeah, Barksdale's drugs destroyed the community, but Marlo takes it to another level with his treatment of other dealers, etc.).
― milo z, Thursday, 21 February 2008 01:17 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah this is true. but i think a lot of crime stories -- 'the godfather', 'goodfellas', 'casino', 'the sopranos', to take minor examples lol -- have been based on that kind of transition. i hadn't thought of marlo in that way before -- i had him more like a mergers-and-acquisitions kind of guy who doesn't play by old school corporatist rules.
one of the kids in s04 tells wee-bey (it's his son right?) "yeah yeah" when he says says there used to be a code -- also bodie (or poot?) says basically the same thing to herc and carv one time, that people are always saying the next generation is meaner and more cut-throat.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 21 February 2008 09:31 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/skew-whiff
I am not really enjoying this season.
― caek, Thursday, 21 February 2008 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link
liked e08 a lot better. clay davis golden as ever. "shameful shit". funny that in a programme mostly about the drug wars one of the least redeemable characters is a journalist.
cringed a bit at the obvious CSI zingage. WE GET IT.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link
huh. i missed that.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link
when mcnulty and kima go to the feds, one of them has been an advisor on mainstream cop shows. mcnutty says he's never seen CSI, kima says "most of our business is drug murders", not serials, crazies, etc.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link