Why is there no thread for The Cure's Disintegration?

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re: years, i agree with crut's theory

cutty, Monday, 7 June 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i believe this is the all-time greatest "coming down" album ever

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

coming down from...?

cutty, Monday, 7 June 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

i believe this is the all-time greatest "coming down" album ever

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i don't agree with that theory at all

it's pretty dopey, stuff like standing on a beach and disintegration are canonical enough that plenty of young folks get into them first. and he ignores the pornography cult entirely.

da croupier, Monday, 7 June 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

i was just going to say, that's a daft theory. what about those of us who think the cure never bettered seventeen seconds/faith/pornography? where do we fit into his supersmug theory?

anagram, Monday, 7 June 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

(add The Top to that and I'm on yr page)

Mark Ronson: "Led Zeppelin were responsible for hip-hop" (acoleuthic), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

There are two kinds of Beach Boys fans in the world: those who believe that "Pet Sounds" is not only the best Beach Boys album but one of the signature albums of the 1960s and those who were born before roughly 1946 or after, say, 1953. Before '46, you probably have vivid high school memories of "Surfina USA" or "Party!" After '53, you probably have warm feelings toward the radio smash "Kokomo."

da croupier, Monday, 7 June 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

The theory as set-in-stone formalism doesn't hold, the feeling he's talking about at the time rings pretty damn true. And as someone who has listened to Faith more often than any other album of theirs as time has gone by, I still appreciate that sense of what 1989 was.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 June 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

coming down from...?

― cutty, Monday, June 7, 2010 10:48 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

a lighthouse

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

the eighties maaaan xp

da croupier, Monday, 7 June 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

a generational landmark up there with the apollo moon launch and seeing your first color TV

da croupier, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

a generational landmark up there with watching my brother's friend blankly stare at the rotary dial of our phone.

Andy K, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey, YOU were the one who got him high.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link

It was around 1993, which would have made him seven or so. I'm not that irresponsible.

Andy K, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

But kids these days etc.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

...with their "Fridays I'm Love" and their videos not directed by Tim Pope. they just don't know!

da croupier, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I was thinking more drugged-out seven years with phones per earlier comments, but I suppose that could work.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyway, the reissue is mine and I am very happy. Helps that I haven't listened to the album in over a decade, I find it familiar and fresh at once. He sounds so young at points now to my mind.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link

There are two kinds of Beach Boys fans in the world: those who believe that "Pet Sounds" is not only the best Beach Boys album but one of the signature albums of the 1960s and those who were born before roughly 1946 or after, say, 1953. Before '46, you probably have vivid high school memories of "Surfina USA" or "Party!" After '53, you probably have warm feelings toward the radio smash "Kokomo."

― da croupier, Monday, June 7, 2010 2:55 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

<3 lol

punperson (latebloomer), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyway, the reissue is mine and I am very happy.

So it's released today? I went to three record stores and couldn't find it here...

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 05:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, its out, even the big chains had it... but for forty fucking dollars! I'm ordering mine offa Amazon for $25 instead.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 05:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I second "best coming down album ever." nothing better after a crazy night out of your mind on acid than dawn and disintegration.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 06:39 (thirteen years ago) link

thank u

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Ordered this from Amazon last night for $25.99 shipped, no tax. Very excited.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

My thoughts here.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link

(I once tried to set up a conversation between Cure frontman Robert Smith and Deftones vocalist Chino Moreno for a magazine feature, but Smith wouldn't participate.)

!!

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Phil's right there. And guess who the interviewer was going to be...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link

mc hammer

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I lacked the pants. Which they would have sensed over the phone.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Stop! Raggetttime!

StanM, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I was just listening to Isis's Panopticon while walking to the post office, and there's a lot of Disintegration influence on that album, it seems to me, particularly the bass sound.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

There could/should be a compilation of metal covers of Cure songs over the years. Deftones as noted, there's Misery Loves Company, "The Drowning Man"...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

The Cure = my favorite band (or so I proclaimed from about 2000-05, before I started buying/listening to waaaayy too much music to even really keep track of "my favorite band" anymore).

Panopticon = my favorite Isis album, by far.

Do the math?

xp

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i just got this today = greatest day ever.

now to find the right time to listen to this again in all its glory.

Boo Radley (Bee OK), Thursday, 10 June 2010 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Guys (who already have this reissue), how's the remastering job? Nabisco points out in his Pfork review that things are a little... squished together.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14288-disintegration-deluxe-edition

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 June 2010 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Nabisco: Wembley Arena is not Wembley Stadium, btw

StanM, Thursday, 10 June 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh crap! Sorry, total north-American ignorance on my part -- I'll let them know to correct the wording.

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link

(still one of the biggest venues in western Europe, right?)

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, stadium > arena (of which Wembley is one of the biggest, I think) > hall, I'd say.

StanM, Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

wembley stadium = 90,000; arena a piddling 12,500 by comparison, and pretty average for arena size i reckon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_indoor_arenas#Europe

sent from my neural lace (ledge), Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually, it's not that big. Max. capacity 12,500 - Earl's Court can hold 19,000 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_indoor_arenas_in_the_United_Kingdom ) - don't know if any of these are ever used as music venues but the 146th in this list is still 15,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_indoor_arenas_by_capacity

StanM, Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost: that's what I was looking for! thx :-)

StanM, Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I wouldn't say Wembley was one of the biggest arenas in Europe. There are quite a few bigger ones, e.g. the O2 and MEN in the UK, Bercy in Paris, Stadthalle in Vienna, SAP in Mannheim, etc.

xp

anagram, Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the review! (suddenly feeling guilty for ruining nabisco's day with irrelevant numbers) :-/

StanM, Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I was at one of those Wembley shows. Support was Shelleyann Orphan if anyone remembers them.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Shelleyan even.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I do indeed. Still got their album Helleborine around somewhere.

anagram, Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty mind-boggling that a fey group like that played Wembley, I can't imagine how they must have gone down

anagram, Thursday, 10 June 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link


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