kind of have a very different reaction. less "oh, how creative" more "what the fuck is wrong with your brain".
xp
― circa1916, Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
The older I get, the less I can derive enjoyment from conspiracy theories... the more they all seem like fruiting bodies of minds in agony. And also it seems like they ALL GET RACIAL when you trace them far enough, it's kinda depressing.
― Blog is a concept by which we measure our pain (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 6 June 2010 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link
First commenter on that New Scientist article is blisteringly OTM:
People deny because there's today little if any culture for uncertainty and lack of knowledge. There's no room for not knowing. One either buys the news or one denies it, but one ought to have SOME opinion and preferable a strong one, reasonable or not.
I think the problem could be greatly alleviated if there was a better awareness for the limits of our understanding generally and what uncertainty there is and that uncertainty is just part of life as much as of science. I have noticed that it happens people learn that something about a scientific theory is unclear even to the experts and they take this as reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater, (not even the experts know!) henceforth ignoring (denying) any evidence in favor of the previously discarded theory (not able to admit their own lack of knowledge, trying to erase uncertainty).
I need that pinned above my desk for all time, srsly.
― Blog is a concept by which we measure our pain (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 6 June 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
fruiting bodies of minds in agony
I like this image!
― breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I feel like blaming "The Da Vinci Code" indirectly for Lady Gaga & Jay Z's Illuminati symbolism. Not that these pop stars couldn't be winking publicly about their secret knowledge, but it comes across to me as strictly a fashion thing. Due to Dan Brown there's now public awareness and a market for this kind of stuff. The symbolism is use in the pop world as evidence of elitism and power in an industry that is perpetually selling the public on status and glamor. Just trade a Hummer for a pyramid with an eye in it. There doesn't seem to be any ideological or philosophical discussion introduced through these symbols, merely superficial representation.
What I'm saying is it would bug me less if Jay Z was boasting hidden knowledge of moon bases or Lizard People or a hollow earth or something.
― Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link
lol, do Lady Gaga + Jay-Z really have illuminati symbolism?
― Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link
The arguments for those "celebrity/movie has Illuminati imagery" are sooo silly – what it typically comes down to is the person finding circles, triangles, and things that look like eyes in things. Like I was watching some video that claimed Rocky swallowing eggs was "Horus imagery." Uh....sure.
― breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Sunday, 6 June 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Read some of those sites, they're hilarious.
"In this fashion shoot - a photo shoot thematically based on Illuminati imagery - Lady Gaga is shown alongside Illuminati imagery! Clearly this proves she is a high level member of the Illuminati."
― Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 6 June 2010 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Recently I read the CLASSIC Behold a Pale Horse for the first time and my favorite bit of that book was when he claimed the moon actually ISNT tidally locked to the Earth. He doesn't even explain his theory behind this, he just states it!
The spooky thing about that book is how the whole intro has Cooper talking about the media's unrelenting smear campaign against him and how these all-powerful people will end up killing him for revealing all these truths. And whaddya know, in 2001 he was killed by FBI agents...
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 7 June 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link
In the 1990s Cooper's interest moved from UFOs, to covert government programs and the militia movement. In June 2001 he warned publicly about an important terrorist attack on United States of America that would be blamed on Osama Bin Laden.[12]
Holy shit is this true? Wow.
― property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Monday, 7 June 2010 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link
oh yeah Behold A Pale horse was a real, uh...eye opener when I read it as a teenager. Cooper was one crazy motherfucker. I'll give him this much: he walked the crazy walk, that's for sure.
― punperson (latebloomer), Monday, 7 June 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPcia9hQohY
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 7 June 2010 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Towards the beginning of the book when he's talking about his military experience he mentions experiencing UFOs out at sea, some of them rising up out of the water, which ties into one of my favorite books "Invisible Residents". Basically the book makes the Chariot of the Gods case about ancient civilization being visited, except instead of UFO from the sky they are UFOs from the ocean. Included are plenty of tantalizing 19th century reports from shipping vessels of strange lights underneath their ships while in the middle of the ocean. Author Ivan Sanderson manages to stay on this one topic for the entirety of the book, which is a welcome change from most conspiracy books I've read!
― Adam Bruneau, Monday, 7 June 2010 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Ivan Sanderson comes more from the cryptozoology school than the UFO/conspiracy school, which is probably why. Different breed of nutty.
― punperson (latebloomer), Monday, 7 June 2010 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i think this video is when conspiracy theories, as a genre of human expression, truly, completely and hilariously jumped the shark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3qFdbUEq5s
― punperson (latebloomer), Monday, 7 June 2010 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link
You guys need to read this book:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WObHw93RL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
It's awesome in complete decimation of everything from the Protocols of Zion to all the Priory of Sion bullshit that let to the DVC.
― Don Homer (kingfish), Monday, 7 June 2010 02:08 (thirteen years ago) link
There is no santa claus.― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, April 6, 2004
― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, April 6, 2004
take it back
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 7 June 2010 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link
http://158.130.17.5/~myl/languagelog/archives/marx.jpg
― Don Homer (kingfish), Monday, 7 June 2010 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link
this one is good, don't know if it's been discussedhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/06/bp-oil-spill-conspir.html#previouspost
― a failed junkie who reinvented himself by eating a thesaurus (jdchurchill), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link
http://gawker.com/5556281/was-obama-in-the-1993-music-video-for-whoomp-there-it-is?skyline=true&s=i
― punperson (latebloomer), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link
XXDATE: 10-Jun-2010
EMAIL: (removed) NAME: (removed) CITY: Washington STATE: washington PHONE: /
THOUGHTS: This mail is from the grandmoviestar from Hollywood [NAME DELETED] and is for the reporter Jay Hernandes. Before you read the rest of this mail you have to understand that most movies what you see in the theaters from Hollywood right now like Ironman,Prince of Persia,Clash of the Titans,Avatar,Transformers part 1,2,3 and 4 were filmed 11 years ago in 1998/1999/ 2000.I got kidnapped in Hollywood in 1999 and after this something happened and these movies were removed/ stolen.It caused a situation between 1999 and today that evolved into a scandal like Watergate.To give this some credibility;When you watch the movie Jennifer’s Body there isn’t 1 girl that’s Megan Fox but there are 6 different girls who are all 1 Megan Fox in this movie.That’s because Megan Fox isn’t 1 person but they are 23 different models and actresses who are all 1 Megan Fox.Just watch the movie because some girls don’t look like each other at all. -The movie G.I.Joe and the promotion material[posters,bilboards etc.] from this movie don’t belong together[you can see scene's and characters on the posters etc.from the 2nd G.I.Joe movie that aren't in the 1st G.I.Joe movie]that’s because the movie is the 1st movie but the promotion material is from the 2nd G.I.Joe movie[with me as Sergeant Slaughter and Sienna Miller as The Baroness] that was stolen[the 2nd movie and the promotion material from the 1st movie] by Vin Diesel and Jennifer Aniston by burglarising the moviecompany that had these movies.Jennifer Aniston was jealous because I dumped Jennifer Aniston and started a relationship with Sienna Miller so she stole our movie. For more information about the scandal and a list of all the movies that were filmed go to my space and type [DELETED CONTACT INFO]. Vin Diesel still has the promotion material from the 1st movie and Jennifer Aniston still has the 2nd movie.
― Save Ferris' It Means Everything knocked my socks off (latebloomer), Friday, 11 June 2010 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
not so much conspiracy theory as person with schizophrenia
― oɔsıqɐɔs (s1ocki), Friday, 11 June 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link
OMG I have a total weakness for that kind of conspiracy rant (the 'i am at the center of a web of celebrity conspiracy' mode). You have just made me v v happy.
There is a guy on a Rush usenet group who has a similar steez with regard to Geddy and Neal and how they have fucked his life over.
― Blog is a concept by which we measure our pain (Jon Lewis), Friday, 11 June 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Also I REALLY REALLY like the premise of this one.
― Blog is a concept by which we measure our pain (Jon Lewis), Friday, 11 June 2010 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link
megan fox is like the father, son, and holy spirit + 20 other people
― Save Ferris' It Means Everything knocked my socks off (latebloomer), Friday, 11 June 2010 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link
That rainbow video is the greatest thing ever
― Jarlrmai, Friday, 11 June 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Can I just
― there are 6 different girls who are all 1 Megan Fox in this movie (Jon Lewis), Friday, 11 June 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh man, if you want to read something great Google "solaris blueraven rush" and stand back.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 11 June 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i found those kinds of things incredibly depressing, it's not like just some wacky idea some dimbulbs have run with but some serious mental illness shit. that person is probably living in a kind of hell
― oɔsıqɐɔs (s1ocki), Friday, 11 June 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
true. i didn't know if it was even real or not. i found it on some entertainment blog that was linked somewhere.
― Save Ferris' It Means Everything knocked my socks off (latebloomer), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link
well shame on u
― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
"There is a guy on a Rush usenet group who has a similar steez with regard to Geddy and Neal and how they have fucked his life over."more details please!
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 11 June 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link
have we talked about the guy who thinks sylvester stallone is dead and the stallone we have now is a b-movie actor from the 70s who has had a ton of plastic surgery?
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 11 June 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link
jimi hendrix rock prophecy guy
― dell (del), Friday, 11 June 2010 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
"There is a guy on a Rush usenet group who has a similar steez with regard to Geddy and Neal and how they have fucked his life over."
>>more details please!
Wow, see last time I looked in there were actual sane conversations about Rush going on, with L1b3r@tor's insane posts here and there. Now it seems he's almost the only one posting:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.rush/topics?lnk=rgh
― there are 6 different girls who are all 1 Megan Fox in this movie (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 12 June 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Holy shit wait is it the same guy as latebloomer's?
Scientists create synthetic cell/organism (Megan Fox is proof)
We all know by certain individuals thought to be dead they're way waybeyond this. This was achieved 50 years ago, probably by a Naziscientist. Megan Fox wants people to know by her tatoo. That's all Ican say at this time (for those that don't know).
― there are 6 different girls who are all 1 Megan Fox in this movie (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 12 June 2010 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
That rainbow video! I immediately signed this petition and you should too:http://www.petitiononline.com/h2o/petition.html
― Not the real Village People, Saturday, 12 June 2010 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link
And also it seems like they ALL GET RACIAL when you trace them far enough, it's kinda depressing.― Blog is a concept by which we measure our pain (Jon Lewis)
― Blog is a concept by which we measure our pain (Jon Lewis)
Can't spell "comspiracy" without r-a-c-i-s-m
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Saturday, 12 June 2010 06:09 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― kkvgz, Saturday, 12 June 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Speaking of Usenet crazies, anyone recall the guy on alt.prophecies.nostrodamus that some guy posted in August 2001? Look up "Xinoehpoel".
― property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Oops I brainfarted. the guy on alt.prophecies.nostrodamus that posted in August 2001 about "911" and then on sept 4 said "in 7 days I am going away and wont be back". Creepy.
― property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link
A cabal of evil corporate geniuses have generated thousands of useless internetish and cell phonish technologies as the most invasive and effective way to distract the minions from the fact that they have taken over our government, committing crimes against humanity and are polluting our environment.
― Lady, Saturday, 12 June 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
http://alllayedout.com/Images/Funny_Posters/graphics/whatever.jpg
― delanie griffith (s1ocki), Saturday, 12 June 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
o_0 at that Solaris Blueraven/Neil Peart thing. She could practically be another Verbal Kint-level talespinner
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9219647520615705963#
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Saturday, 12 June 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
USA Today's been reading this thread:
Matt Chasansky, the public art administrator at Denver airport, has watched all the YouTube videos, answered many e-mails and read all the internet postings about the secret messages allegedly embedded in murals, sculpture and other art pieces in the airport. He's glad people are responding emotionally to the airport's collection but insists concerns about strange doings at DEN are just misunderstandings.One traveler wrote to complain about the "demons" in the baggage claim area. Those demons are part of Terry Allen's work, Notre Denver and are European cathedral-inspired gargoyles meant not to harm people, but to protect them from losing their luggage. Other travelers see a secret code in the words and images in 21st Century Artifacts, the four mosaic floors created by Carolyn Braaksma and Mark Villareal for Concourse B. "The piece is actually about geography, archeology and topography," says the airport's Chasansky, "And those are Native American words and symbols for the Colorado River and other sites around the area."
One traveler wrote to complain about the "demons" in the baggage claim area. Those demons are part of Terry Allen's work, Notre Denver and are European cathedral-inspired gargoyles meant not to harm people, but to protect them from losing their luggage. Other travelers see a secret code in the words and images in 21st Century Artifacts, the four mosaic floors created by Carolyn Braaksma and Mark Villareal for Concourse B. "The piece is actually about geography, archeology and topography," says the airport's Chasansky, "And those are Native American words and symbols for the Colorado River and other sites around the area."
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 09:48 (thirteen years ago) link
http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?2681-the-Case-for-A-Binary-Partner-to-our-Sun
― We are pleasure to inform you about (jdchurchill), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.vimeo.com/9104959
― gnarly sceptre, Friday, 13 August 2010 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I've always thought that one of the problems with most conspiracy theories is that they aren't outlandishly batshit enough to have any kind of lasting interest. Who cares about who plugged JFK when it's possible that the entire MIddle Ages didn't exist. Meet Phantom Time Hypothesis - what happens when a clerical error goes horribly wrong.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 30 August 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I read the Voodoo Histories book kingfish plugged upthread. It was a very high-quality and reasoned takedown of various conspiracy theories and the conspiratorial thought process. OTOH it was what I happened to have in my purse when my husband went to the ER and I have to note: this book will not cheer you up. It will only make a bad day worse.
― sharkless dick stick (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 August 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
dude elvis holy shit what
― goole, Monday, 30 August 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link