"The Wire" on HBO

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an american will start a sentence strong and end it weakly, and unemphasized. a britisher will often start weak and then end strong, raising the pitch at the end as well - which can sound more "musical" or whatever.

as somebody from the west coast of Scotland, a pretty wild accent even for a "Brit", i remember the hilarity my accent caused Californians, not because i started up and went down, but because i went up a down several times throughout a sentence. While they couldn't imitate my vowel sounds or accent they could nail the pitch, wavering so much more than theirs ever would.

McNulty's accent is pretty woeful, although i somehow managed to take a while to work out he was English (in hindsight "snot boogie" tells you all you need to know). Not sure how great Stringer's is. It's consistently american in the way House's is, but i don't know how accurate it is of a black man from inner-city Baltimore (not that the American cast are generally any better for this afaik).

No disre but maryanne hobbs is peng trust me (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 6 June 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

and knowing hugh laurie has always made me go "ooooh bullshit" over house (not that i've watched more than a couple of episodes, it outlives its premise after about two).

No disre but maryanne hobbs is peng trust me (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 6 June 2010 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

caek i did not, actually! would love to see.

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 6 June 2010 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link

House does not sound American. House sounds like nothing.

Nhex, Sunday, 6 June 2010 06:49 (thirteen years ago) link

xp, i sent you an email.

everyone else: if you ever need someone to teach an american accent to a british actor who can do a really weird al pacino impression, but that's about it, then tracer is your man! : )

caek, Sunday, 6 June 2010 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link

he could also do a frankly amazing walken!! i know that walken is a common party trick but i've never been able to pull it off

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 6 June 2010 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, the walken was actually really good. there's a few lines of straight up pacino and walken in the final thing, but mostly it's just his weird london/jersey (not new)/rhotacism/american thing. great times : )

caek, Sunday, 6 June 2010 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't get the email \(;_;)/

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 6 June 2010 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

ha! i have three or four email addresses for you. i will try one of the others.

caek, Sunday, 6 June 2010 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link

got it!

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 6 June 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

rescreened (/morbs)

I can't let this stand. "Rescreened" is (/Alfred).

jaymc, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe it's just me, but once in a while String sounds almost Cockney.

Daleks in NYC (Leee), Thursday, 10 June 2010 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Best written show on television among worst closed-captioned on DVD? Small sampling from Season 4:

"Couldn't smoke out who was pulling the strings." as
"Wouldn't smoke. Guy was pulling the strings."

"I debriefed"
"I had to brief"

"was gutted for political reasons"
"we'll cut it for political reasons"

"Fuck the Bunk"
"Fuck that bunk"

etc.

At least they don't do the West Wing thing of editing all sentences for brevity, but come on.

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 18 June 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

What did Charlie Brooker make of Season 5?

The referee was perfect (Chris), Monday, 23 August 2010 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

ha i love that the ilx wire thread got so nerdy we are criticizing the closed-captioning

i'm about to watch the finale. feel like i am going for one last visit before pulling the plug on a beloved family member or something

*gulp*

welcome back ma$ed god (samosa gibreel), Saturday, 9 October 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Peace be with you.

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 9 October 2010 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link

your hair look good, samosa

bitchmaid (sic), Saturday, 9 October 2010 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link

i watched New Jack City on the plane home from NYC a couple days ago, and there are a few exchanges that are almost identical to bits of dialog in The Wire

sarahel, Saturday, 9 October 2010 08:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been watching The Wire on the 101 Network on DirecTv. I never caught it on HBO and never saw the dvds.

It just hit me that that the actor who played Wallace also plays Vince Howard on Friday Night Lights. The episode where he came back to the low rises after leaving his grandmom in the sticks was really a punch in the gut.

I love cinema. My favorite movies are Citizen Kane and the Boondock Saints (KMS), Saturday, 9 October 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

lol

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 November 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://mightygodking.com/images/ac-wire.jpg

miss u this show

caek, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link

think I'm getting all this DVD's for xmas!

erin brokovich (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link

caek that grid is cool!

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"you want it to be one way. but its the other way" is prob my favorite line from the whole series.

u aint messin w/ my dengue (gr8080), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Now I want to go back and watch them all again...again

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 05:17 (thirteen years ago) link

"you want it to be one way. but its the other way" is prob my favorite line from the whole series.

― u aint messin w/ my dengue (gr8080), Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:00 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark

kanellos (gbx), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link

it is also a line of deep and abiding truth

kanellos (gbx), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah that's a hot line - i wish i never watched this show so i could watch it again for the first time

k3vin k., Wednesday, 15 December 2010 06:00 (thirteen years ago) link

always thought it was the weakest of catchphrase lines, tbh

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 06:05 (thirteen years ago) link

how is avon neutral and string evil??

j., Wednesday, 15 December 2010 06:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Avon has nowhere near the long-range vision and laser focus that String had. Avon just wanted to be the big fish in the pond. String wanted to be the emperor fish of ALL the ponds.

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 06:14 (thirteen years ago) link

chaotic neutral is a hard one to pick out for The Wire

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 06:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I see someone online picked Ziggy, I like that choice

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 06:19 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah but wasn't string trying to go legit at the end? i.e. it wasn't about the evilness of the enterprise but the money

dayo, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link

No but I felt like String was going to keep being String just in a different world: like even when he's going legit, he's going to try to be the corporate bazillionaire and take over the empire. You know? He just had that way about him.

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 06:30 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah but wasn't string trying to go legit at the end? i.e. it wasn't about the evilness of the enterprise but the money

― dayo, Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:20 AM (12 minutes ago)

money is the root of ~all evil~

k3vin k., Wednesday, 15 December 2010 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link

What kev said

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 07:10 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't know what these categories even mean, is this some nerd thing?

sarahel, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 07:47 (thirteen years ago) link

D&D

ears are wounds, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 08:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i think wire morality is more complex than that of D&D

once more Jagger faps the hivemind (symsymsym), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Avon definitely follows a code -- much more so than Stringer

sarahel, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 09:32 (thirteen years ago) link

second season: Daniels tells Rawls he'll take on the case of 14 dead bodies in a ship container provided "you give me what I need with no arguments and no bulllshit"

*would have loved to say this to one of my old employers

hubertus bigend (m coleman), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 10:35 (thirteen years ago) link

love that chart

I spilled, saucer-eyed, into the Tonetta fanclub underground. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

ok I feel less bad about not getting it now

k3vin k., Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

http://lc.fdots.com/cc/lc/c8/c845ebf7cff92c726789d411608fdb96.jpg

omar little, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Avon definitely follows a code -- much more so than Stringer

Yeah, the choice seems counter-intuitive to me but on reflection it really works - Avon has a moral code (however much we disagree with it) whereas Stringer has an amoral respect for the system.

The best example of this to me was Stringer authorising the hit on Omar on a Sunday.

Tim F, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I want to argue that String isn't amoral -- definitely NOT immoral -- because he abides by capitalism and Mr. Morals himself Adam Smith, and that he didn't actively violate the Sunday truce so much as waved off Shamrock (or whichever lackey was bugging him) because he had better things to do... which yeah, speaks to his amoral nature.

penis with a man hanging from it (Leee), Thursday, 16 December 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

what about what avon and brianna did to d'angelo?

j., Thursday, 16 December 2010 09:52 (thirteen years ago) link


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