Firefly/Serenity probably would go into this category.
― Nhex, Friday, 4 June 2010 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Holy crap, Dark Star is up for free streaming in its full version. I love this world:
http://www.amctv.com/videos/b-movies/?bcpid=13332913001&bclid=14056329001&bctid=14095584001
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 June 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link
don't forget the late Dennis Hopper in Space Truckers.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 4 June 2010 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link
The first part of Otomo Katsuhiro's Memories (available for streaming on netflix)
― GENE PITNEY'S SWEATER BY KANDAHAR (los blue jeans), Friday, 4 June 2010 02:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Silent Running
― GENE PITNEY'S SWEATER BY KANDAHAR (los blue jeans), Friday, 4 June 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link
star wars
― real eyes realize real truffle fries (dyao), Friday, 4 June 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link
And SpaceBalls!
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 4 June 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
"They Live", surely?
― property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Also The Thing. Carpenter has a lot of form here.
― every time i pull a j/k off the shelf (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Tremors
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:06 (thirteen years ago) link
SHit I didnt even realise They Live was a Carpenter joint, ha.
― property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:06 (thirteen years ago) link
But yeah. thats def his vibe.
― property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Saturn 3?
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Nah, the 3 protagonists in that are all kinda exotic iirc
― every time i pull a j/k off the shelf (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Def agree on Firefly btw, which is what I loved about it.
I suppose you could tenatively put Babylon 5 in this category. They certainly allow a lot of working/homeless classes in the show.
― property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Primer
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link
eh, it has a gritty vibe but they is educated white-collar engineers.
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link
They're working out of a garage. It's about as blue-collar as technology startups get.
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:33 (thirteen years ago) link
They're wearing white shirts so they have white collars CASE CLOSED
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I think we're waltzing right into a big grey area here.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link
It's humorous the way they wear their whit collared shirts everywhere and always. It's not just their clothes, it becomes like a costume. There's a definite commentary about class intended there, I think.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link
They're blue-collar and in deep denial.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I wouldn't put this on the list, but it makes me think of the way that Goldblum in The Fly has several sets of identical clothes. He does it do save the time he would spend deciding what to wear; they do it because it's what guys like them wear.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link
xp Do they work their glistening, taut muscles almost daily in practical application? No? Then they're white collar. (See unusual details wikipedia thread.)
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Grey area. Grey collar. (ew.)
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:49 (thirteen years ago) link
OK now you guys are just being nerdy pedants.
― property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:50 (thirteen years ago) link
and?
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link
touche my dear.
― property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:53 (thirteen years ago) link
He does it do save the time he would spend deciding what to wear; they do it because it's what guys like them wear.
I hope I'm not the only guy on ILX this describes perfectly. I'm pretty sure it covers a pretty high % of guys irl anyway.
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Brazil has a clerical worker hooking up with a truck driver
― The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Terminator. Sarah Connor just a hard workin' waitress, Kyle just a hard workin' resistance fighter, T-101 just a hard-workin' killer robot.
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Gordon Gocko's pretty hard workin, is he blue collar?
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Gordon Gocko, whatta guy huh
http://oakey.net/decals/images/Elvis%20TCB%20Band.jpg
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link
"A Clockwork Orange"
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link
No.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Eh?
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Poshos
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Yarbles
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Tom D., I'd be interested to hear your case for that. But it seems clear to me that Alex is supposed to be an over-privileged little snot.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Repo Man
― Otherwise you're kinda being comp-lit in his racism. (kkvgz), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:06 (thirteen years ago) link
In fact, the whole movie takes place in this vaguely futuristic place where almost everyone is over-privileged, and if you're not, you're living in a tunnel waiting to get the shit kicked out of you by snots like Alex. It's kind of part of the plot. At any rate, it ain't blue collar.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Repo Man is excellent, yes.
Lives in a tower block. Parents seem fairly w/c. Northern accent. One of his friends is Warren Clarke!
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link
There are British-specific overtones that I do not understand, clearly.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link
In fact, the whole movie takes place in this vaguely futuristic place where almost everyone is over-privileged
Writers, intellectuals, politicians still more privileged though.
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Probably. The accent is quite important... though only Alex and his family have Northern accents, Dim + Georgie are Cockney.
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link
But Alex also speaks a made-up language that's half Russian.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link
argh beat me to Brazil
― Don't look at the finger (Ste), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link
At any rate, I do not believe that the intention was to portray Alex as economically put-upon.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link
my favorite fanboy argument about star wars is the claim that by blowing up both death stars, the rebels are just as guilty as the empire is of committing mass murderer, since think of all the janitors/maintenance workers/blue collar dudes who are working on the death star keeping it running & functioning, they probably had no ill will towards anybody and were just conscripted by the empire, won't somebody think of the children!!
^isn't this from Clerks?
― sofatruck, Friday, 4 June 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost
She did solder a HAYYYYYULP message into his guts
― every time i pull a j/k off the shelf (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 June 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
have never watched clerks xp
― real eyes realize real truffle fries (dyao), Friday, 4 June 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
since think of all the janitors/maintenance workers/blue collar dudes who are working on the death star keeping it running & functioning, they probably had no ill will towards anybody and were just conscripted by the empire
The prequels supposedly explain this away by revealing that they're all clones. Though why a sentient clone's life should be worth less than anyone else's, I have no idea.
― Tuomas, Friday, 4 June 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link
So you think all those bike messengers on the streets are slaves?
― Tuomas, Friday, 4 June 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link
they used boba fett clones to clean toilets? seems like a waste
xp
― peter in montreal, Friday, 4 June 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
they have to swallow their messages?
― every time i pull a j/k off the shelf (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 June 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
oh wait, they probably had droids to clean toilets
Now you're being antropomorphic. R2 didn't "swallow" anything, it was just its version of a messenger bag.
― Tuomas, Friday, 4 June 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
not enough midichlorians
― in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 June 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/b/b9/Lobot_btm.jpg
This guy has the worst of it -- looks human, but named LOWbot.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 June 2010 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I heard they almost got him to star in death of a salesman
― real eyes realize real truffle fries (dyao), Friday, 4 June 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zd_khk6zXo
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 June 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFKhV_X6-cg
apparently George Lucas addressed the matter in the DVD commentary to one of the prequels.
― sofatruck, Friday, 4 June 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Jay and Silent Bob are not in Clerks. Well, ok, except for kind-of.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I can understand the confusion there, certainly.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Isn't it Lobot? As in lobotomy?
― Yes! Yes! Hammerheads! (Jon Lewis), Friday, 4 June 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
You're right! Poor lobot! Why they gave you a lobotomy? Maybe you wanted too much freedom.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 June 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
― real eyes realize real truffle fries (dyao), Friday, June 4, 2010 1:52 PM
more like Death Star of a Salesman
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 4 June 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, but C3PO is a "protocol droid", i.e. built for a white collar job. Can you imagine him doing manual work?
"My last job was programming binary load-lifters, very similar to your vaporators!"
the original trilogy doesn't really show any of the Empire's supposed oppression.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/1/14/OwenBeru_dead.jpg
― I guess for copraphiles this is gonna be awesome (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 4 June 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
c3po just bragging how l33t his coding skills are, but whenever they need to hack empire security, notice it's always R2 who steps up.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 June 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
3po would have sold his droid bros out -- total class traitor -- did you see how quickly he maneuvered himself into exploiting ewok religion to make himself queen of the ewoks? don't weep for 3po.― Philip Nunez, Friday, June 4, 2010 1:40 PM Bookmark
― Philip Nunez, Friday, June 4, 2010 1:40 PM Bookmark
But 3PO initially demurs, claiming it would be against his programming to impersonate a deity. He gets browbeat into this idea by, if I recall correctly, the princess.
Thread probably needs some distinction between "has blue collar character in it" and "blue collar sensibility." Like, it's hard to find ANY Hollywood picture where every character is a rich snot who only occasionally tips at restaurants.... whereas Alien is really interested in imagining what the bold new future really looks like to the delivery people and Marine draftees.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 4 June 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Me at every job interview ever.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
which one is Aunt Beru and and which one is Uncle Owen?
― Jarlrmai, Friday, 4 June 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
xxxp
― Jarlrmai, Friday, 4 June 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Posted this thread as a response to Star Wars, as a sense, which is space opera only in a scruffier universe. Ridley Scott took that look and mixed it with the 70s bits of trucker films, Dark Star, Silent Running, et al, and did his own.
― Don Homer, I have baked a special donut just-a for you (kingfish), Friday, 4 June 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, June 4, 2010 3:28 PM Bookmark
LOL
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 5 June 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link
"They Live" is the ultimate blue collar scifi film.
― Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 5 June 2010 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link
'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' - i.e. Richard Dreyfuss' character.
― Chooglin'alCarbon, Saturday, 5 June 2010 07:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Non blue collar sci-fi = Wyndham
― Jarlrmai, Saturday, 5 June 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't seen it since it aired in 1993, but I remember Space Rangers as going for an Alien inspired blue collar atmosphere
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/Space_Rangers_cast.JPG
― GENE PITNEY'S SWEATER BY KANDAHAR (los blue jeans), Saturday, 5 June 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Does 12 Monkeys ever tell you what Cole's job was before he was put in prison?
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I think Starcraft 2 fits in this category. Interesting mix of backgrounds, too, as you have the hero with his southern/hick/redneck drawl vs the lambchopped mechanic with a strong NY accent
― Don Homer (kingfish), Thursday, 5 August 2010 06:18 (thirteen years ago) link
You can't have a white collar/blue collar distinction in slavery
In the pre-Civil War U.S. south, there were house slaves and field slaves.
― Charlie Chaliapin (j.lu), Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I suppose someone should mention the Planet Express delivery team.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 25 May 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
Hmm, true, tho the vibe I always got from them is more white collar/90's corporate/kinko's/fed-ex like
but I guess Scruffy would have harsh words for that
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Scruffy_2_9337.jpg
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5cAwTEEGNE
― Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
this was a solid thread, well done everyone
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
"the island", while indefensibly shitty, was ultimately pretty working class
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
"indefensibly shitty, was ultimately pretty working class"haha that's all of michael bay's movies.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 25 May 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
Playing Borderlands 2 this weekend and realized that both this game and Guardians of the Galaxy(much like Starcraft I & II) had great depictions of sci-fi rednecks/hillbillies. Yet again, I posit that Michael Rooker will probably never get the full credit for what he contributes to GotG.
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Saturday, 23 August 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link
Ha, and I completely forgot this thread had this exchange:
Yeah, but C3PO is a "protocol droid", i.e. built for a white collar job. Can you imagine him doing manual work?"My last job was programming binary load-lifters, very similar to your vaporators!"
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Saturday, 23 August 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link
I guess we can add Elysium / Total Recall(remake) to this list, and also Edge of Tomorrow, which pointedly highlights the contrast between grunt & pretty-boy officer
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Saturday, 23 August 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
I'm watching Snowpiercer right now. Definitely counts.
― Scary Darey (dog latin), Sunday, 24 August 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link
that repo men flick from a few years back. terrible, but working class, even trying to say something abt it.
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Sunday, 24 August 2014 07:51 (nine years ago) link