I don't think she's an idiot. I like her first two records fine. I just don't see how going to the Grammys did anything but publicize MIA and the record industry (which is the only reason the Grammys exists, generally speaking). Did she have "Free Sri Lanka" scrawled on her belly or something? Being relatively famous, she would have gotten equal press by refusing to perform.
Regardless, I'd be more sympathetic to her strategy if her political beliefs were at all coherent. I understand some things make her angry, but ... so? Get in line.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 June 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
don't know if anyone's posted this yet, but *siren.gif* breaking news *siren.gif* - http://pitchfork.com/news/39014-echo-chamber-colin-meloy-vs-mia/
― ksh, Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
are we allowed to say pitchfuck?
― the other is a black gay gentleman from Los Angeles (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Colin Meloy, the Tucker Carlson of shitty indie bands
― in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link
1,258,647 Followers
― ksh, Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link
"Somehow with this chick, all the the liberal arts educated middle-class white people expected that she would be different. That she would be content and very happy to be poor and starving. That she would decline a fancy hotel suite and truffle-flavored fries. Are you people fucking crazy? You have the gall to be disappointed that she isn't poor and miserable enough for you to wax eloquent with a straight face on Sri Lankan politics with your buddies and use her as an example of how fucked up the whole situation is."
hmmm...
― Armand Van Helden Vocal Remix (Spinspin Sugah), Friday, 4 June 2010 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link
fwiw the first GIS result for truffle fry is MIA...but the second is Lenny Kravitz!
― breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Friday, 4 June 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link
The Gawker comment Spinspin Sugah quoted from is good good stuff.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link
""Somehow with this chick, all the the liberal arts educated middle-class white people expected that she would be different. That she would be content and very happy to be poor and starving. That she would decline a fancy hotel suite and truffle-flavored fries. Are you people fucking crazy? You have the gall to be disappointed that she isn't poor and miserable enough for you to wax eloquent with a straight face on Sri Lankan politics with your buddies and use her as an example of how fucked up the whole situation is.""
MIA is just unused to posh varieties of french fries, being an outsider and everything, so she wanted to taste as many different new kinds as she could.
― truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I have never had truffle fries and would totally try them if they were offered.
― what it feels like for a goon (The Reverend), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway
i never knew they even existed and now want to have some more than ever.
MIA should advertise them.
― truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link
right, nothing about the truffle fries episode actually disproves hirschberg's point though, right? either in specifically retelling that anecdote or the more general one. specifically it's not that lefty-liberal political activists can't eat poncy foods, it's her lack of self-awareness in proclaiming herself to be an "outsider" while being someone that the new york times will buy truffle fries for. lady, you're establishment. this is ok! you wanted it! own it!
the general point about mia being a div who doesn't actually have a political message at all stands regardless.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:19 (thirteen years ago) link
She should shill truffle fries ... for charity!
"Are you tired of regular fries whose taste is ... missing in action? Try New MIA Truffle Fries! They've got a taste that's downright RADICAL!!!"
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 June 2010 11:39 (thirteen years ago) link
it's her lack of self-awareness in proclaiming herself to be an "outsider" while being someone that the new york times will buy truffle fries for
You are of course aware that this doesn't matter, like, at all, right?
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 June 2010 11:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Can someone please start a MAYA thread on which the words "truffle fries" are verboten? I tried yesterday but it didn't go through. Would be good to discuss the record rather than going around in circles.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Is the record out? Until then, it's holding period time, no?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 June 2010 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah it's too early for a thread I think, it'll just devolve right back into this again.
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 June 2010 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link
has it leaked? id discuss it if someone gave me a copy.
― truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link
OK then, let's wait for the release/leak. I just wanted an early escape from Hirschberg hell.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Friday, 4 June 2010 12:02 (thirteen years ago) link
But see, Hirschberg is the holding pattern! That's why she wrote it and MIA participated: to fill space and take up time leading up to the release of the record. Well, mission accomplished. People are talking. MIA should give Hirschberg points on the record, which will no doubt bow with a Billboard shattering 30,000 sold or so and change the way we think about the world, for about a week.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 June 2010 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link
could see this bombing maybe. nothing that's been on it so far is anything like a 10th as engaging as her "hit". otoh her most high-profile release wrt mainstream media coverage.
― No disre but maryanne hobbs is peng trust me (jim in glasgow), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link
30,000 sold would likely mean it's a hit these days, btw, as far as that goes.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 June 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I just wanted an early escape from Hirschberg hell.
Suggestion:
"Remove Bookmark from this Thread"
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link
also, i'm guessing it might be an indie thing considering i doubt the paper planers are gonna stick around for IWASBOOOORNFREEEEE nanananananananananana
― a mind is a terrible thing, too #based (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Hirschberg hell now comprises the totality of reality -- removing a bookmark will not change the constitution of the Absolute
― ksh, Friday, 4 June 2010 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link
this thread kind of a microcosm for what reading about indie bands on the internet is like in 2010
― a mind is a terrible thing, too #based (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
hey guys, dirty projjies covered a bob dylan song iirc
― a mind is a terrible thing, too #based (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Thread still needs a link to 1000TimesYes to accomplish that in full, iirc.
xp
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link
xp A microcosm? This thread is literally about reading about indie bands on the internet in 2010.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 June 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Nabisco weighs in, apparently:
"Maya Arulpragasam was never a politically sophisticated thinker. We knew that already. What else do we know about her?"
http://pitchfork.com/features/why-we-fight/7813-why-we-fight-4
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link
guys here's a giant painting of Isaac Brock standing next to a boar that is in the office of the Portland mayor
http://endhits.portlandmercury.com/endhits/archives/2010/06/03/portland-mayor-now-has-a-portrait-of-isaac-brock-on-his-wall
― a mind is a terrible thing, too #based (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link
http://twitter.com/colinmeloy/status/15333104281http://twitter.com/colinmeloy/status/15333104281http://twitter.com/colinmeloy/status/15333104281http://twitter.com/colinmeloy/status/15333104281http://twitter.com/colinmeloy/status/15333104281
― ksh, Friday, 4 June 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Meloy is following Brooklyn Vegan, Largehearted Boy, Infinite Summer, Pitchfork, The Paris Review
i am not making this shit up
― ksh, Friday, 4 June 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link
The question was never if she was a politically sophisticated thinker. The question was is she a more politically sophisticated thinker than Bono, who she takes down and implies is a less politically sophisticated thinker than she is. Which is truly begging the question.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 June 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
the way ksh has elevated from one of the worst posters to one of the best posters is a magnificent feat like Dr. Dre going from the World Class Wreckin Cru to The Chronic in the span of a month
― a mind is a terrible thing, too #based (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link
^ made my day
― ksh, Friday, 4 June 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Read who it's coming from, then reconsider.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link
ksh has done cooler things than post colin meloy's twitter updates
― call all destroyer, Friday, 4 June 2010 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link
still think it's hilarious that that tweet merited a fuckin P4k news story -- http://pitchfork.com/news/39014-echo-chamber-colin-meloy-vs-mia
when that showed up in my Google Reader, it may as well have just read: Hey supposedly intelligent readers, fuck you!!!
― ksh, Friday, 4 June 2010 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Hey supposedly intelligent readers, LOCAL NATIVES!!!
― a mind is a terrible thing, too #based (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link
looooooooooooooooooool
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
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― Jamie_ATP, Friday, 4 June 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
^^ m.i.a. LP4 ^^^
― 0xCAFED00D (LOLK), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
oops.
― Jamie_ATP, Friday, 4 June 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link
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― ksh, Friday, 4 June 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Fuck it.
― ksh, Friday, 4 June 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
wait do you mean "a magnificent feat like dre going from wreckin cru to chronic in a month instead of the 6 years it actually took"
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
If I relax my eyes, that looks like it says something about a truck.
― Otherwise you're kinda being comp-lit in his racism. (kkvgz), Friday, 4 June 2010 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyway, nabisco OTM, the end:
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 June 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link