Franz Ferdinand totally sucks...

And I don't think the fact that there's no other bands around currently that sound like them who don't suck even more justifies their existence.

I mean c'mon, what's next, The Hives FFS?

Actually I was asking you if they were unique or if there are other similar yet better bands (i feel like i've said that about 4 times now).
Okay so you've said who they sound like. I'm guessing you don't see the appeal of those bands either? Maybe they're catchy/poppy enough to attract a wide audience yet also have enough perceived coolness/edginess (relatively speaking. relative to say, Jessica Simpson) for those who normally don't like pop to not be ashamed to admit to liking them? I dunno.

Is it shocking to anyone that the people making the "corny indie fuxx" argument against NME's pet bands are being exactly the sorts of clannish, snobby asshats that they're railing against?

You've got the "katie" franz ferdinand email hotkeyed and just waiting to be the piece de resistance of the latest and greatest Frinterpol Strokillers debate. You don't let mainstream radio OR Spin/NME decide what you like (and Magnet's for fags). Big fucking deal. You couldn't fit the indie stereotype more unless you died twenty years ago and pitchfork was reviewing reissues of your first record.

hasn't that always been obvious? indie fuxx make fun of indie fuxx, fanboys make fun of fanboys (ahem), religious nuts make fun of other religious nuts...and so on.

I'm glad I found ilx and I love the sense of community, 99% of the time you get insightful and/or hilarious posts, but sometimes the posturing is a bit much.

I do, but they're not post-punk

I'm not talking about the "general population", though -- I'm talking Serious Music People, whom I'd always kinda hoped I'd end up being considered one of, but also always seem to be out of step with.

Uh, sure. If you want to call that lukewarm, tepid, "Eh, they're sorta okay-ish" or "I like two or three songs of theirs" or "They're, like, really, really, really simple, but I like them anyway" sort of "liking" that.

Really, Franz Ferdinand will probably be passionately extolled in some futuristic version of ILX eleven years down the line, when I'll be onto another group people will think is horribly derivative or overly simple or something. It'll be destiny.

If they do sound like The Strokes, it's the version of The Strokes that's engaged with the song they're currently playing and displaying a pulse (which I'm sure The Strokes do from time to time, it's just that I've never seen/heard it).

I suppose not NOW, but historically I've been made to feel like there's something wrong with me for taking seriously certain musical artists, so please forgive me as I try to make the necessary adjustments.

i like the strokes and what i've heard of f.f. some of the negative reactions are interesting, some may even take root eventually, but it doesn't change the fact that i like them. dee, i think you need to be more secure in your tastes while happily acknowledging and even digesting some criticism of your faves. the alternative makes for depression or, even worse, glibness.

You do make really good points there. I suppose I'm just so weary of getting heavy amounts of grief for what I love most musically and feeling more than a measure of loneliness re: not being able to find people to share my biggest musical passions with on an intellectual level that I just end up in a pile of despair.

*sighs* It would be SO EASY if I were a Radiohead fan or a Beatles fan, for example. But I'm not, and I never will be. But okay, I'll try to be more secure about what I love, and I'll try to continue nurturing my FF fanhood at the same time as I try out other "new music" artists, and I'll try to absorb the criticism better.

do they still make those teenbeat things?

if so, are they still restricted to gwen stefani stock photos?

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So, if you're lonely
You know I'm here
Waiting for you
I'm just a cross-hair;
I'm just a shot away from you

And if you leave here,
You leave me broken
Shattered I lie
I'm just a cross-hair;
I'm just a shot, then we can die

oooh!

I know I won't be leaving here
With you

I say, don't you know?
You say you don't know
I say: take me out

I stay, you don't show
Don't move; time is slow
I say: take me out

I say, you don't know
You say you don't go
I say: take me out

I know I won't be leaving here (with you)
I know I won't be leaving here
I know I won't be leaving here (with you)
I know I won't be leaving here
With you

I say, don't you know?
You say you don't know
I say: take me out

If I move, this could die
Eyes move; this could die
C'mon --
Take me out

I know I won't be leaving here (with you)
I know I won't be leaving here
I know I won't be leaving here (with you)
I know I won't be leaving here
With you