Red Dead Redemption

i should point out that the woman being hung, you had to rescue

i don't know why that's important, lol

ok, let's do this

My only problem with the game is that I think John Marston is too chatty while he's riding from place to place doing missions. I reckon he could have been more Clint y'know. Also does anyone know if you can just shoot the gun out of your opponents hand when you're having a duel after being busted cheating at cards? Having said that, riddling them with bullets is pretty fun.

i get what Dan's saying and here's a straight answer: yes, there's a lot less relatably icky gang bullshit and putting caps in people's asses. The game is about two steps away from racism; the first guy I met in Mexico might as well have been al pacino playing Tony Montana which didn't even make sense and there is a definite parochial "save us old white guy we cannot survive without you" vibe. Also there's a real disregard for life that even GTA never fostered; the game invites you to kill kill kill every animal you encounter... weirdly, that puts you somewhat more in game and of the time though?
All the above aside, I recommend this whole heartedly and would definitely say it's the best thing Rock Star has ever done.

wow, that is high praise!

Also does anyone know if you can just shoot the gun out of your opponents hand when you're having a duel after being busted cheating at cards? Having said that, riddling them with bullets is pretty fun.

Yeah, if you wait for them to draw before you do and then paint the X on their hand as it flashes white it disarms them and ends the duel immediately.

My only problem with the game is that I think John Marston is too chatty while he's riding from place to place doing missions

His shoehorned in philosophy discussions are almost as laboured as his "sick of this goddamn bullshit gonna shoot you in the head soon" talk to Irish.

Also Herbert Moon really needs to stop getting robbed and/or saying that thing about Jews running the country.

I have avoided every GTA game because of discomfort with the premise

Me too. The setting changes everything, though. It's basically Deadwood - there are no rules, there is no law, you have people living right up on the edge of survival, life was cheap. Which makes kill or be killed a legit choice a lot of the time. In GTA it's pretty much modern times, when there isn't really any defensible reason for carrying a gun.

And yeah, echoing what others have said the game really steers you towards being a good guy. Of course there's nothing stopping you from going all bnw on people's ass but from what I can tell the game gets harder if you do this.

Think the main character is a bit too moral and enlightened to ring true for the setting, really.

It's the best game I've played for years, though

Anyone else encountered the couple, the man of whom lies dead and the woman kneeling over him crying. As you approach she pulls out a gun, you think is she gonna shoot at me? But she puts the gun to her head and blows her brains out?
It's grimly quirky - if pointless beyond helping add to the frontier-life-is-brutal tone - details like that I love about this game.

I've rented Deadwood again because of RDR xp

okay you all have convinced me to get this game

Yeah I'm buying this on the way home.

ok ok i'll join the club too. which version tho - are there any diffs between ps/xbox?

woo-hooo X 3!!

360 is generally acknowledged to look a little better... plus i'm on it and i want more multiplayer posses

Apparently there's an achievement for getting 16 people in a single posse? COME ON ILX.

ordered for 360, fingers xed i'll get it for the weekend.

i'm 'gooole' on xbox if pps want to posse up. i'm on... pretty frequently

and yeah i've seen the suicide couple before!! the character model can be anyone, i know i've seen it with a dead woman and a distraught man, and two men i think. now that i think about it, i wonder if you can drop into dead eye and shoot the gun out of his hand like everyone else?

i'm "antzattax" for the xbox posse

i usually only get on this at the weekends where i can cream a good load of hours, but i may delve into through the week at random.

I nominate forks to invite us all to a posse and get us all the 16-person achievement.

It might be easier if we set a particular time.

Maybe sometime this weekend would be good?

;_; fu xbox ppl

where my PS3 thugs at?

Btw, I've posted my tag on the Xbox tag thread, but if anyone wants to add me, I'm 'Shinefield'

So I've got a ton of flowers, mostly from doing the challenges. Besides the bouquet stranger quest, is there any reason to keep them, or should I sell it all off? (Also re: pelts + meat and stuff. I had read that some people can turn that stuff into cool items, but I haven't run into any of that yet. Maybe it'll be on DLC?)

and yeah i've seen the suicide couple before!!

I just met another couple, in Mexico. This time though the woman drank from a bottle then just collapsed dead beside her partner.

It's not just the Mexicans who get a raw deal character wise, what about Irish??! Ah beggorah, dat's got ta be de wurst example of an over da top Oirish brouge oi've 'eard in a lung toime. And, oh look, he's a snivelling little coward.

Fun though.

ok i give in, loading this up now

Can we make a time tonight? 9:00pm EST? I'll turn it on and see who's down.

I'll be on at 9ish. Just invite me!

;_; fu xbox ppl

where my PS3 thugs at?

― drop it like it's hot, Elena (HI DERE)

Hi dere! I'm xboxless too.

Haven't picked up RDR yet though. :(

Yeah I'm PS3, or will be when I can find a shop with it in stock.

Ugh, hunting for skunks/raccoons other small things maybe me feel car sick.

won't be on at 9 tonight, ah

what, you can't stay up until 2AM to play videogames?

i might be on later, if yall still on. might be bit drunk tho

just played for an hour or so, and didn't accomplish anything other than finding out that the north east part of the map is completely inaccessible right now and that the mexican border river NEEDS MORE FECKING BRIDGES!

The whole map is open in Multiplayer Free Roam.

yeah i was wondering, i played free roam for about 2 minutes and i was in some town with proper roads. is that in the north east bit too?

The Sam Elliott dude you meet when you first get to Mexico has a total Japanese deep-mystery vibe goin on. "I'm the last of my kind..." "So what are you waiting around here for?" "I don't know..."

Totally. And Kevin Spacey to play the 'I Know You' strange man guy in the movie adap.

My PS3 copy has finally shipped, hopefully it arrives today just in time for the long weekend. Am nothingelseon on PSN - will join posse once I figure out how to play!

i'm fabfunk on ps3 - still in tutorial mode tho so might need a bit of time before bringing the multiplayer ruckus

Goddamnit how come I can't do Five Finger Fillet correctly. :(

Been trying to put 3 hogtied prisoners into a human centipede formation. Not easy!

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/red-dead-co-op-dlc-dated

June 22, can't wait.

I have the 16ppl posse achievement; beware tho iirc the achievement is for being the posse leader in a 16ppl posse so if you do manage to get into one the leader has to leave and rejoin to make someone else the leader so they get the achievement, and then rinse repeat until everyone has it

very fiddly

i am interested in any posse action. xbawx gt: Snarly Yow.

did you guys know you can start a bar brawl? :D

should be an "achievement" for that

There's one but you have to start one in every bar in the game.

seriously??

i think this focus on "achievements" runs counter to marston's character. for instance i don't do any of the bounty hunts. what the fuck do i care? i'm basically a criminal myself. i just want to find william williamson.