New Zealand Election 2008

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O dear new poll suggests a4-5 seat majority for a Nat coalition, bummer. Labour can have my electorate vote then, for all the good it'll most likely do them.

Kiwi, yeah? Same goes for me, y'know. You seem miffed

Niles Caulder, Thursday, 6 November 2008 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

I'm an expat and unfortunately ineligible to vote. Got an email from my mum, her only comment on the election: "Don't want either of them to get in".

franny glass, Thursday, 6 November 2008 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

With the Greens on 9% (apparently, obv) and gaining with each election, she may actually have a legitimate 3rd choice pretty soon.

Niles Caulder, Thursday, 6 November 2008 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

John Key's hair is stupid

Niles Caulder, Thursday, 6 November 2008 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

I can't see my mother ever voting green. She used to be solidly for Labour and anti-National, but I think she's gotten really sick of Helen. She'd probably be thrilled to vote for Labour under different leadership.

I haven't been home since Key has been in charge so I can't really comment on him. But he does seem to have stupid hair.

franny glass, Thursday, 6 November 2008 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

I suppose after what is it now, three terms, her style does get a bit wearying... I'd like people to have a better reason than boredom for getting rid of her/them, tho. A change to Cullen might've been a decent idea, tho he's almost been a coleader a lot of the time.

Yeah it is and his deputy's more capable than him, but HE USED TO LIVE IN A STATEHOUSE so he connects with all NZ, etc etc

I was kinda meaning btw (don't know how old yr mum is) that in maybe 20 years time the Greens'll be up on 20/30/40% type support and no longer seem an outsider choice, which might be nice.

Niles Caulder, Thursday, 6 November 2008 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

I would be really proud of NZ if the Greens got that much support. I am getting HOMESICK man.

franny glass, Thursday, 6 November 2008 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

Does 9% surprise you? We'll see what actually happens tho.

Niles Caulder, Thursday, 6 November 2008 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

Niles Cullen would be a disaster he can be a real nasty piece of work-- a smarmy, aloof bully who is deeply unpopular with voters, Goff or more likely Cunliffe wld be a better bet.

Key being a poster boy for the welfare state; solo mum, state house and school etc drives the left crazy eh --they hate rich bastards more than just about anything else but can hardly publically begrudge his success in life.

I dont understand tvdisko at all, Key is in the box seat he might be thin on coalition partners but hes very close to an outright majority for national alone, hardly a lame duck!

As for being miffed , yes I am, and its not just Sue Bradfords makeover, voting like tvdisko doesnt make sense to me. Perhaps theres a method to his madness but I would have thought the greens will never win a local seat, its a wasted vote, but more than that it will split the left wing local vote with labour gifting close local seats to national.

GOING TO BE CLOSE! HI RUBY!

Kiwi, Friday, 7 November 2008 07:33 (twelve years ago) link

HI KIWI! this thread is great, as i'm not knowledgeable about politics at all, and people here in the US keep asking me about nz pols. election is today, right?

undiscovered cuntry (Rubyredd), Friday, 7 November 2008 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

Yep.

GO BLACK DUDE FROM SPACE ♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡ (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 7 November 2008 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry NZ : (

2nd Black President (The Reverend), Saturday, 8 November 2008 12:02 (twelve years ago) link

Disappointing, and I stand corrected. Oh, and I'm not a resident here (in the process of becoming one), so I couldn't vote. I note only that most of my friends and colleagues chose to vote that way.

I work in the tertiary education sector (at university) and I'm afraid of what a National-led approach will do to students and lecturers (though Labour created their own mess in that regard).

Fuck.

tvdisko, Saturday, 8 November 2008 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

Good luck, NZ!

Aimless, Saturday, 8 November 2008 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

hmm, so these are the kinds of choices that people in inferior countries without black presidents are required to make.

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Saturday, 8 November 2008 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

having a white president is so 2000

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Saturday, 8 November 2008 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

Clark has been doing it a bloody long time, though. I'm sure it's nice to have some stability after the 427531468562648378364 PMs that filed through in quick succession a few years ago.

At least you're getting a centre-right PM when Aus and the US have just fallen to the left. Imagine if it had happened 2-3 years ago! Jesus.

GO BLACK DUDE FROM SPACE ♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡ (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 8 November 2008 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

five years pass...

:/

Three more years of John Key. After all the Dirty Politics &c&c&c, NZ First bled votes from ... Labour?

etc, Saturday, 20 September 2014 12:48 (six years ago) link

Yeah pretty shocked actually - my timeline has been full of anti National sentiment for months. But everyone hates Labour as well so I wonder if the non-national vote was spilt too many ways.

And what a dirty, American-style election cycle thus has been :/

just1n3, Saturday, 20 September 2014 16:41 (six years ago) link

the fucking worst

just sayin, Sunday, 21 September 2014 14:20 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Everyone's completely blindsided by this. Keith Ng & Morgan Godfery's comments here are on the mark, I think: http://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/05-12-2016/group-think-david-slack-morgan-godfery-david-seymour-annabelle-lee-and-more-on-john-keys-resignation/

etc, Monday, 5 December 2016 07:17 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Been slightly more eventful lately w/the Metiria Turei benefit stuff & the leadership spill in Labour. Can the Opportunities Party cross the 5% threshold?

etc, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 09:39 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Pretty nervous. Looks like over 1 million advance votes cast, but registration/turnout amongst under-40s hasn't seemed to spike much if any.

etc, Saturday, 23 September 2017 00:01 (three years ago) link

:(

albvivertine, Saturday, 23 September 2017 00:18 (three years ago) link

So I just contributed my under-40 (just) vote, and if the double-page spread of the electoral roll I got to check out as I was marked as having voted is any indication, no-one of any age is voting. Tiny type, must've been 150 or so names there, I was the only voter. Geez.

albvivertine, Saturday, 23 September 2017 06:53 (three years ago) link

Fuuuuuuuuuuck

etc, Saturday, 23 September 2017 10:02 (three years ago) link

https://rongallipoli.bandcamp.com/track/fonterra

etc, Saturday, 23 September 2017 10:41 (three years ago) link

Yeah well that sucked. At least I got a date out of it.

albvivertine, Saturday, 23 September 2017 15:08 (three years ago) link

Well, I guess there's an outside chance we'll get Winston as PM at the head of a Labour/Greens/NZF coalition, maybe ... really wish something had come of the electoral reform commission back in 2012 or so to lower the party vote threshold.

etc, Saturday, 23 September 2017 21:12 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Jacinda Ardern is the new prime minister.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/341958/honour-and-a-privilege-jacinda-ardern

An extraordinary turnaround from 2½ months ago, when she took over as Labour leader on 24% in the polls. Now Labour, NZ First and the Greens will attempt to form a government.

And National lose power for the first time since 2008. They'll go into opposition and count the lessons they have learned. Probably on one hand.

If nothing else, there was a slight swing away from the unashamedly rightwing parties this time. National/ACT/Conservatives got 49%, 51% and 52% of voters at the previous elections, but barely 45% this year. Seeing NZF as a "centrist" party feels weird when some of their policies are equally shitty, but apparently "centrist" is what they've decided to be. This week.

Ardern, Davis and Robertson looked pretty glum at that press conference. Any regrets?

sbahnhof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 10:23 (three years ago) link

Slight dread that the NZF-Labour coalition will be wobbly enough to give us another nine years of National in three years time, but yeah, fingers crossed. Worried about nativist/anti-immigration crossover between NZF & Labour. Big year for Jacinda, and curious as to what sort of portfolios the Greens will get.

etc, Thursday, 19 October 2017 10:34 (three years ago) link

I HATE Winston Peters. He used to come into the restaurant I worked at, and would always smoke cigars at his table (it was a non smoking restaurant) and my boss wouldn’t say anything. He was always really smug, rude and an asshole. And he’s a fucking racist.

I hate how much power his shit party always seems to have.

Anyone follow the spinoff? I’ve been loving the “kiwis of Snapchat” series - the latest one had me in tears: “it’s colonization, bitch”

just1n3, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:17 (three years ago) link

Yeah, he's a pos. Has he been given a portfolio yet?

albvivertine, Thursday, 19 October 2017 20:26 (three years ago) link

This is not all about him.

(btw, ministries should be known next week - https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/10/19/54586/labours-got-talent-and-nz-first)

It hasn't had time to sink in yet, but I'm astounded that National are out of power. Stunning stuff! Maybe the coalition will turn sour, but they've got 3 years to show Kiwis that NZ can be something better than a poor-hating tax haven. They can do it, but they've got to be bold.

sbahnhof, Friday, 20 October 2017 01:37 (three years ago) link

This election's real 'queenmaker':

Back in July, the speech that Metiria Turei gave to the Greens AGM on her experiences as a beneficiary in the 1990s (including an admission she broke the law) was the pebble that started yesterday’s avalanche.

It led to a not insignificant number of Labour voters switching support to the Greens. Which then drove Labour’s poll ratings down to the low-mid 20s. Which caused Andrew Little to resign as leader. Which put Jacinda Ardern in charge of Labour. After which, the rest is history. - (TheSpinoff.co.nz)

sbahnhof, Friday, 20 October 2017 02:07 (three years ago) link

:-O Story of the year! But do you reckon it's got a chance of passing?

- http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/342008/cannabis-referendum-part-of-greens-deal, aroha-bridge-predicted-it

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9jQnSgyMXQ8S0Rq/giphy.gif

sbahnhof, Friday, 20 October 2017 07:07 (three years ago) link

Hi @FirstCatofNZ Paddles! I'm First Dog @usembassynz. Glad your mommy @jacindaardern got a call from @POTUS! Congrats & let's be buddies🐾🐶🐱 pic.twitter.com/xDAaLrj7C8

— Gracie Brown (@DiploDogGracie) October 23, 2017

El Tomboto, Saturday, 28 October 2017 13:46 (three years ago) link

Can her first act of office be transferring the US embassy to a dirt road outside of Invercargill?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 October 2017 14:37 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Mads Chapman on-point as usual:

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/15-02-2018/a-step-by-step-guide-to-writing-a-jacinda-ardern-profile/

Meanwhile, Bill English has resigned, and no clue how serious people are contending for the leadership or if it's seen as a poisoned chalice / one for a caretaker figure.

Time to retweet this pic.twitter.com/7JByeNnomS

— Colin Jackson (@ThisCJ) February 13, 2018

etc, Thursday, 15 February 2018 03:56 (two years ago) link


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