Erik Satie - Vexations

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Yes but his instructions, iirc, say 'If this piece is to be performed 840 times in succession, then [etc etc etc].' First word, if. And Satie liked deadpan joeks.

it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a crane shot to 'NOOOOOO' (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah. I have never realized that the wording was open to such intepretation but now I see that it's actually not an instruction about performing it but an instruction about preparing yourself if you're going to play it 840 times. This makes me wonder how the 840 repetition thing became the accepted interpretation.

If you play piano I recommend trying this piece for fun. I find it quite confusing to play which is maybe something to do with the absence of a key or time signature.

http://home.swipnet.se/sonoloco14/learning/score01op.jpg

everything, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Acutally, I now see that Satie also never specified which instrument this should be played on.

everything, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

^ That could be common practice for him; he often eschewed bar lines as well, and other 'necessities' of printed music.

it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a crane shot to 'NOOOOOO' (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

It's either a deliberate attempt to confuse the performer or else he's subverting the normal rules of musical notation for fun. On the second line he's got D#s bumping up against Ebs in a way that is not logical. There is probably some internal system which is only understandable if you are a musicologist geek.

everything, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

>It's either a deliberate attempt to confuse the performer or else he's subverting the normal rules of musical notation for fun.

Erik Satie's Performance Indications

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Satie's Performance Indications > Eno's Oblique Strategies

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

He's a funny guy all right!

everything, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

The great thing is, almost every performance indication on that page can be actually applied to one's performance on some level.

Love the little prose poems he attached to the 3 Embyrons Desechees...

it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a crane shot to 'NOOOOOO' (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Trying to get hold of a relatively new recording of this by Stephane Ginsburgh, got a great review in Brainwashed a few months ago, but local stores (and, indeed, some classical music stores in a few cities in Europe) are letting me down.

louiiiis jjjjagger (S-), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 04:00 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Today is the day.

when entitlement goes unfilled (doo dah), Thursday, 21 June 2012 00:29 (eleven years ago) link

seven years pass...

Entering hour 5 of @igorpianist's Vexations marathon... https://t.co/HJBHsqoyWM

— Alex Ross (@alexrossmusic) May 30, 2020

Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 May 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link


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