Best Orson Welles film (as director)

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before Morbs leaps on me though I gotta say I need to see more Welles - only seen Othello aside from this

some men enjoy the feeling of being owned (acoleuthic), Sunday, 30 May 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Why on earth are Chimes and Ambersons not available on DVD??? Very frustrating.

Moreno, Monday, 1 November 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

in the case of Chimes, rights disputes I'm sure.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 November 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

it'd be sad to watch these on youtube but i guess that's what i'll have to do.

Moreno, Monday, 1 November 2010 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

My copy of Ambersons is a PBS showing in the mid nineties. Good condition too.

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 November 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Other Kane weaknesses: ... What would you like to have been?" "Everything you hate!"

of course alfred had to go and pick on my favorite line!

'ambersons' gets showed on TCM pretty often, i think. no idea why it isn't out on dvd, unless they're holding out for a 'metropolis'-style miracle. more and more i think it's his best film -- so many shots in there are like nothing else i've ever seen in a movie.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 1 November 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

there was some shitty dvd of ambersons in spain or mexico or somewhere and it was rlsed on xvid years ago, only copy i've seen of it but still my favourite film of his

Terminal Boredoms (nakhchivan), Monday, 1 November 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Saw Othello a few months ago in a theater — some audio sync problems but it's Welles at his sensory-overload baroquely excessive best.

corey, Monday, 1 November 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Just watched "Black Magic" (aka "Cagliostro"). What a hoot. Probably the most 'fun' Welles prior to "F For Fake". Also, so obviously directed by him for the majority of the film that I'm surprised it's not considered his.

A happenstance discovery of asynchronous lesbians (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 3 January 2011 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Didn't mean to put fun in quotes there.

A happenstance discovery of asynchronous lesbians (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 3 January 2011 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i saw The Trial the other day. Great effort but kind of a mess. one of those things they shouldn't have tried to do in the first place

Cunga, Monday, 3 January 2011 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Nah, I love Anthony Perkins in the role, and the extra dialogue Welles wrote.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 January 2011 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link

it's fine on its own

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 January 2011 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Poor Peter Bogdanovich couldn't understand how Kafka could be funny -- yet another example of the illiteracy of film directors.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 January 2011 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link

feel bad saying this since OW is my favorite film guy for life but 'the trial' doesn't really work for me, the 'before the law' opening aside.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 3 January 2011 04:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Certainly love the fact that Perkins was cast in the role, but it doesn't turn out to be as good as you think.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 January 2011 13:33 (thirteen years ago) link

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Awarded a long-overdue SB for this comment.

it also takes hip-hip with it (Eric H.), Monday, 3 January 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, cmon

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 January 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

and remember, Starman is John Carpenter's best.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 January 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

And there's another one.

it also takes hip-hip with it (Eric H.), Monday, 3 January 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I really don't think it works that way, Pope Eric

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 January 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Rest assured: I SB'd you both.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 January 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd like to re-poll this one. Also S&S '12 if Kane takes that one.

it also takes hip-hip with it (Eric H.), Monday, 3 January 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link

wau, ya woulda made a "great dictator"

(based on an idea by Orson Welles)

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 January 2011 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link

And you would've made a great court jester.

(based on a genre of film by untalented hacks)

it also takes hip-hip with it (Eric H.), Monday, 3 January 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

the vessel in yer pestle

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 January 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I really think I may have been wrong about Jerry Lewis.

it also takes hip-hip with it (Eric H.), Monday, 3 January 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Rent/dl/steal and watch "Black Magic", fellow film geeks. Have fun!

A happenstance discovery of asynchronous lesbians (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 3 January 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

havent seen The Trial since i was a kid, but i thot it was amazing then

Princess TamTam, Monday, 3 January 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah the trial is good. saw it first while stoned out of my head and really dug it: the soviet bloc style tower blocks, the weird frisson with the chix, the running around latticed mazes casting crazy shadows, the play on the psycho persona with the nervous repressed nice young man free of crime this time if still moved to temper, the bizarre variation on the kafka ending

zvookster, Monday, 3 January 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Dennis Perrin on growing old w/ Ambersons:

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2012/05/lost-in-amber.html

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 May 2012 08:26 (twelve years ago) link

well and beautifully said.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 21 May 2012 06:20 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

Yeah, Macbeth definitely not on the same playing field as Chimes at Midnight.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

But still much better than I expected from a movie shot in 3 weeks in salt mines.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

and much better than Othello.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

fond memories of his Macbeth. I guess I should get around to seeing the Magnificent Ambersons one of these days

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

Didn't realize DVD was now available as a standalone.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

I remember Roddy McDowall being kinda terrible in Macbeth... Othello all the way among Shakespeares.

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Roddy isn't going to make a great king.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

Will get back to you to call you totally insane, Morbs, when I finally get around to Othello.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

tsk tsk, you have become what I was merely rumored to be....

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

That's a throne you will never vacate.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

Not only does Macbeth boast one of Welles' few good performances, the one by Jeanette Nolan is almost as good.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

no, I do what's necessary and leave. xp

oh, you go envision Cary Grant as Titus Andronicus!

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

"one of Welles' few good performances"

Hah, OK, so that's what it looks like when I do that.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

I get my jollies envisioning Archie as Rosalind.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

Hah, OK, so that's what it looks like when I do that.

insightful?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link

i maintain that OW never made any bad films, but 'macbeth' is better than 'othello'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

I, too, haven't seen a "bad" Orson Welles movie yet.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

The Stranger probably.

Bad performances he's got, er, tons of.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link


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