Bottomless Bellybutton by Dash Shaw

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Satellite CMYK was the name of the short I was referencing with the people living in the isolated floors, btw

fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Saturday, 29 May 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, (sorry I'm on Dash Shaw overload today) there's a decent interview here.

I especially like this, which is basically an awesome unwritten epilogue to Bodyworld:

That said, if there was a telepathy-inducing drug, I think it should be experimented with, in a controlled environment, and I would definitely want to try it. But it's dangerous because if it becomes too widespread, it would lead to a hive mind, which is what happens in "BodyWorld." However, eventually, after the hive mind has become the norm, then people would find ways to "shield" their bodymind from the other members of the hive and things would return to almost exactly the way things are now, pre-telepathy. But that would all happen many years after the "BodyWorld" story ends.

And also this little bit about how his animation work is affecting his comics:

oing animation increases your sensitivity to your body, because you have to think about how you walk and move. You have to do a million little drawings for the most mundane things. You could do a comic like that, but it'd take a lot of pages and very little would happen, which is I guess what "Bottomless" is like. Now that I'm doing animation more, my comics are getting leaner, tighter, and more detailed. If you do a hundred drawings of someone sitting down for an animation, you want to work on one detailed comic page next, to keep yourself balanced.

fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Saturday, 29 May 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought bodyworld was fun and well structured but showed his need to mature as a writer... he got away with some silly scripting in bellybutton but it felt a bit strained and precious at times in bodyworld
that said: i'm so excited this guy is on the scene. hope he doesn't become a filmmaker

forksclovetofu, Saturday, 29 May 2010 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

name-checking P. Chung twice - nice! wouldn't have guessed that as influence

Nhex, Sunday, 30 May 2010 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link

btw, did anyone else pick up the The Unclothed Man in the 35th Century compilation?

I bought UNCLOTHED MAN this week, just thinking it was a collection of miscellaneous Shaw shawts. Imagine my annoyance when, removed from plastic shrinkwrap, the inside flap helpfully explains that it's 20% storyboards for a cartoon I can't watch, and 80% stuff I already have. Fuuuuck off, helpful bookshop.

― Oh boy, Midgard! That's where I'm a Viking! (sic), Saturday, 1 May 2010 18:12 (4 weeks ago)

Señor Communications Adviser (sic), Sunday, 30 May 2010 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link

You can watch the ifc stuff free online, although none of them look nearly as cool as the trailer to his new film imo

fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Sunday, 30 May 2010 02:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I watched all of Unclothed Man online and thought it was amazing.

dan selzer, Sunday, 30 May 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link

IFC even started geoblocking their podcasts a few years ago!

Señor Communications Adviser (sic), Sunday, 30 May 2010 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link

sic, you can't watch these?

http://www.ifc.com/unclothed-man-in-the-35th-century-ad/

fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Sunday, 30 May 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link

unclothed man also collects his blind date short story, which is one of my favorite things of his. when i went to see him talk in berkeley, he talked about how there was going to be a whole book of these, based on pages from a blind date tribute website that he had bookmarked, but when the website went down and he couldn't get in touch with the page administrator, he gave up and moved on to other projects.

he's working on a new book in addition to the animation stuff, so i don't think the printed page is in danger of losing him just yet.

a bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (ytth), Monday, 31 May 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

sic, you can't watch these?

hmm, I tried, but after two minutes of buffering-and-playing, the ad before either Schrodinger's Shaw or a message saying that this content is unavailable in my area had made it from 31 seconds remaining to 21 seconds remaining.

BTW I should have said that Satellite CMYK was indeed great, in Mome. There was a high-school-set one that struck me the most from his contributions, though. I suppose I might as well actually turn the pages of the hardcover and read it again.

Señor Communications Adviser (sic), Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

he got away with some silly scripting in bellybutton but it felt a bit strained and precious at times in bodyworld

disagree! found bodyworld a real leap forward in art and script! opinions!

No disre but maryanne hobbs is peng trust me (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

got my copy of bodyworld yesterday and re-read it last night in bed (but not naked). The vertical format - which i found interesting and novel to start with, then somewhat suspicious and cumbersome, and finally it just felt natural - is cool, and the book just looks great.

Lil' Lj & The World (jim in glasgow), Monday, 14 June 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked the way that the fluoro orange ink on the left-hand side, where the spine would normally be, made satisfying snapping noises as I opened each fresh double-page.

one month passes...

i keep moving house and whenever i come across this thing tucked away in a pile of books i'm sure that it's the nicest shiny-brown object i own

as a banana slug farmer, I still agree with you

two months pass...

I finished editing the layouts for the new book I’m working on. I started working on this comic last year, simultaneously with the animation, but after going to the Sundance Screenwriters Lab (for The Ruined Cast) I decided to scratch what I’d done on the comic and script it all out- like a comic script, all words, and then from that I did the layouts in sketchbooks.

This is the first long book I’ve completely laid out and scripted beforehand. Usually I’d start with an outline or piece together and rearrange separate scenes, but I’ve tried a lot of different ways, and I’ve written scripts for shorter comics before.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2whgvna.jpg

PUMPED

Z S, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"Ruined Cast" is one of those things where it's like they scanned my brain to figure out just what I'd like most to exist in the world w/out consciously realizing it. I am stoked. And also excited for whatever comic comes out of that epic stack of scripts!

<3 Dash Shaw

The Ten Things I Hate About Commandments (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

"Ruined Cast" is one of those things where it's like they scanned my brain to figure out just what I'd like most to exist in the world w/out consciously realizing it.

Definitely. Frank Santoro contributes, too! It's going to be awesome, there's no way around it

Z S, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

frank santoro is awesome. i've emailed him back and forth about buying books and art from him, and there's this really noticeable and funny trend in his tone going from REALLY EXCITED THAT I'M INTERESTED IN HIS ART to just. barely. tolerating. me. he's still awesome, though.

rag photographique (ytth), Thursday, 14 October 2010 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Dash Shaw photographed for L'Uomo Vogue

Mary Lynn Ice Cube (sic), Sunday, 17 October 2010 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link

he gets a groomer now?

Brick Frog! (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 October 2010 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

bit of a dash shaw reference/influence in the new Chris Ware book, Lint, I think. Just a bit?

dan selzer, Saturday, 6 November 2010 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Dash posted some character model sheets from the Ruined Cast (still really excited for this btw!) this morning. Character model sheets are pretty much my favorite thing to look at in the world, I think.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2nb7qkk.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/103x160.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/oktxqw.jpg

need to impressive a girl? (Z S), Monday, 6 December 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I like Jose's full, puffy lips. They look satisfying to draw.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

me too. Jose's my fav out of the three. I had the following exchange with Dash on his blog:


ZS
December 6, 2010 at 10:37 am
These model sheets are so fun to look at. I especially love Jose and his chiseled jawline. If you have any more I’d love to see them!

Dash Shaw
December 6, 2010 at 10:49 am
Thanks, ZS. I’ll post more later. Some of them get pretty sloppy, though. Mostly I try to keep everything very simple and generic-looking, knowing that when different people draw the same person it’ll always move a little off-model. If it’s generic, like a house style, everyone can shoot for the same face and it’ll end up a little wonky in its consistency (which I like) while still being recognizable as the same character.

need to impressive a girl? (Z S), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

:D

I should write Dash Shaw a letter.

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Yesterday I went with the family to see Rabbit Hole, new movie w/ Nicole Kidman and Aaron Eckhart directed by John Cameron Mitchell from Hedwig. It was OK. As my girlfriend described it "grief porn". But at some point you see a hand drawing these designs and it looked interesting but you weren't sure who was doing it. A bit later they start drawing faces and I immediately thought "that looks just like Dash Shaw's style" but it was pretty basic and I thought it was a coincidence. Later you see the complete drawings, a full comic book a character was drawing called "Rabbit Hole" and soon as they showed it I knew immediately it was his. The character in the movie even describes the comic, something about parallel universes and a teenager with a double looking for his father or something. In other words, a Dash Shaw comic. It looked great, I hope they release it!

dan selzer, Sunday, 23 January 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I saw the drawings in the trailer and thought "D. SHaw???" I missed Mitchell's name in the trailer or I probably would have made the connection bcz they're both doing "The Ruined Cast." I want to see it in spite of it looking like 90 straight mins of a divorce (iirc?).

Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't even put the Ruined Cast thing together. I can't believe how excited I am for the Ruined Cast. And in general I can't believe how excited I am about Dash Shaw. Been a long time since any kind of artist has affected me this way.

Anyway, divorce issues are there, but it's more about coping, or not coping, and people's various ways of coping. It has some funny bits and some melodramatic bits. It's worth watching I suppose but not a priority.

dan selzer, Sunday, 23 January 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

wait...what's the deal with Rabbit Hole? I didn't know about any of this! Is Dash Shaw (the real person) putting out a comic called Rabbit Hole? Or did they just use some of his drawings in the movie? Sorry, feel like a dummy here, totally hungover.

23 24 (Z S), Sunday, 23 January 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks!

also, that post pointed to a video that Dash put up on the Ruined Cast blog once that's cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcbHwS_hDBk

23 24 (Z S), Sunday, 23 January 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/999818113/the-ruined-cast-an-animated-feature-by-dash-shaw-0?ref=recommended

The Ruined Cast has a kickstarter thing going now:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/999818113/the-ruined-cast-an-animated-feature-by-dash-shaw-0?ref=recommended

Along with the list of things you "get" if you donate at various levels (i'm probably going to splurge and go for the $40 to get a ltd. edition print from the film+digital download of film on release day+signed postcard - rich people may want to donate $1000 and get themselves drawn into the movie itself), it also includes this description of the project:

The Ruined Cast is a hand-drawn animated feature I’ve written and am directing. It’s my first attempt into feature-length animating. I’ve been tamed, beaten, and trained by producers John Cameron Mitchell (director of Hedwig & The Angry Inch, Shortbus and Rabbit Hole), Howard Gertler (Shortbus & Bobcat Goldthwait's World’s Greatest Dad) and Biljana Labovic (Bill Plympton’s Idiots & Angels) to bring this to the screen. The video above is a teaser meant to prematurely arouse you for a movie night that is two million drawings away from completion.

I’ve also been developing the project at the scenic Sundance Institute’s Screenwriting & Directing Labs. It’s been a loving, collaborative environment in which I’ve honed the script and learned to mercilessly manipulate actors and crew.

What’s the story?

Michael Malone has created an enclosed scientific community, Argus, where he experiments on the population and the members of his own family. His latest experiment is a personality-altering cosmetic shell. If you don the shell of another person, their personality seeps into you. Aided by gross overdoses of Jamais Vu pills, which give you the experience of feeling something for the first time (as opposed to déjà vu), you can be completely reborn in a new personality. When he loses a test subject in this new process, his control over Argus and his family begins to unravel. His art student son finds and hides the escaped test subject and plans to overthrow his father’s work!


I would copy and paste the things you "get" at various donation levels, but...it doesn't let you (as soon as you click on

Z S, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

uh, multiple weird things in that post of mine just now, sorry. for some reason even with stupid posts like this i end up trying to write it several different ways, with different versions of the post, and then sometimes i forget to clean up the mess before hitting the "submit post" button.

Z S, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh man, I've never wanted to throw $$$ at anything so bad.

blah blah blah my entire life happened to me once (Abbbottt), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I funded 50 bucks. It's not a lot of time to raise that much money, but I kinda think there's two kinds of projects on Kickstarter. The ones nobody really cares about that raise a little money from family and the ones everyone already loves and will raise more then they need.

dan selzer, Friday, 8 April 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

or not.

dan selzer, Friday, 8 April 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link

$40 for an image from the film seems like a good buy

slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

and he's at the strand in half an hour!

slight even by tweet standards (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Wld maybe throw in for the $150 pkg if Justin3 & ytth hadn't already hooked me up with an Unclothed Man... decorated by Shaw.

blah blah blah my entire life happened to me once (Abbbottt), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Also those 'thank you' portraits at the end of Bottomless Belly Button make me think whoever has the disposable $1k probably will not be disappointed.

blah blah blah my entire life happened to me once (Abbbottt), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

$40 for an image from the film seems like a good buy

Plus a signed postcard and digital download of film!

knowing my luck, the image from the film that i get will be an extreme close-up of poolwater or something, just a flat grey-blue

Z S, Friday, 8 April 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.globaltotaloffice.com/textiles_finishes/large/DF_94_GreyBlue.jpg

limited edition still!

Z S, Friday, 8 April 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i threw in $40 as well. 25K is a lot, but i hope he gets it.

this is off the subject of dash shaw, but still comics related: this is the most recent kickstarter i donated to.

everyone should at least watch the video - it's pretty rad.

and you are a part of everything and everything is like melting (ytth), Saturday, 9 April 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

i love bodyworld soooooooo much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W9xtzY5Lmw

SELF DEPORTATION (Z S), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 06:48 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

yo shaw fans... desert island is selling an awesome bodyworld print for $15 on eBay right now... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dash-Shaw-BodyWorld-hand-printed-and-signed-art-print-/220946476470?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33716fadb6#ht_500wt_1313

this used to be way more expensive, and it's really cool (and enormous).

also zs - did you ever get the print from the ruined cast kickstarter sent to you? i got mine pretty recently, and i have to say, it was great but totally not what i was expecting.

how did we get here how? (ytth), Monday, 13 February 2012 06:17 (twelve years ago) link

I got the ruined cast print as well. I dont' know where I'll put it, it doesn't go anywhere in my place! I've met the guy who does a lot of Dash's and Desert Island's printing, he just moved his shop to a bigger space in brooklyn and had an open studio party thursday night:

http://havenpress.com/

dan selzer, Monday, 13 February 2012 06:27 (twelve years ago) link

How did you guys hang your Dieball prints? nails? tape? psychic spells?

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link


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