MIA

::sigh:: not on the level of thousands of people getting killed in a decades-long political conflict but sure ok

plus Madonna incorporating totally commonplace middle America issues/problems into her music and videos is really not going to steer the general public perception of those issues the way virtually the only famous Sri Lankan in U.S./U.K. music is going to steer the image and understanding of that country.

The lesson here is we shouldn't expect too much from our Italian-American and Sri Lankan musical avatars.

i mean just because you can come up with a halfway clever analogy doesn't make it magically steamroll over every detail that doesn't parallel at all (xpost)

ffs, how many MIA fans could point out Sri Lanka on a map? xp

I didn't expect it to, dude.

it's nice that you don't expect anyone to do or say anything of worth, even yourself. it must be very freeing.

damn

how the fuck are you extrapolating this from what I've written?

It's nice that you can't have an adult conversation. It must be liberating.

gotta say it's bizarre to ascribe shit like that to alfred who ime is usually one of the most reasonable ppl in these types of discussions

also irony @ some dude defending shakey mo from similar cheap zings upthread

haha sorry man it just felt like you came back to "this doesn't bother me but then i don't expect much from M.I.A./Madonna/pop stars/my own pet theories" as this frustrating retort to bounce off anything anyone said.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/images/MIA.jpg

man i get real tired of this whole "its a pop star -- let them be as stupid as they want" kinda defense

me 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFmMGYv3mag

man i get real tired of this whole "its a politician -- let them sing as badly as they want" kinda defense

No. By all means call them out for stupidities in their private lives and incoherences in their music. I'm just offering a less...manichean view.

man i get real tired of this whole "its a pop star -- let them be as stupid as they want" kinda defense

yeah but isn't it the case that when it's somebody we dig, we make all manner of excuses - pop stars are just people - name the # of people you know who aren't dumb shits at least half the time - zero unless you were friends with Mother Teresa iirc - let he who does not have at least a hundred posts he'd delete himself if he could cast the 1st stone

Dom's take on this is quite funny, for those who miss the man put out to Athenian exile.

jd i don't know many ppl who make a pretty lucrative living by being dumb shits cuz hey it pays the bills (not that they need the money lol) and who cares if some poor ppl get fucked they got an image to maintain/desperately keep alive and the press loves it (except when they don't in which case you should act like a petulant douchebag). do you?

who is balls

the question that had to be asked

blunt iirc

haha i mean blount, actual typo and not going for easy joke

James?

Wait who is getting fucked by her stupidity?

thx some d00d

Wait who is getting fucked by her stupidity?

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:48 PM

ben whatshisname

Franklin

lol

bronfman! i'm reading this book about prohibition and how the o.g. bronfmans were smugglers and scary motherfuckers before they bough seagrams and went legit

Feel bad for poor fucked Ben Bronfman.

jd i don't know many ppl who make a pretty lucrative living by being dumb shits cuz hey it pays the bills (not that they need the money lol) and who cares if some poor ppl get fucked they got an image to maintain/desperately keep alive and the press loves it (except when they don't in which case you should act like a petulant douchebag). do you?

umm no - it's just like, really? we're mad at mia because her brand of being a pop star with nothing of particular value to say is somehow more offensive than any other pop star's vacuity? also, why are you so hostile to me since you came back, I thought we was bros

http://www.observer.com/2010/media/lynn-hirschbergs-response-mia-tweet-fairly-unethical-and-infuriating

btw in case you were wondering who the piece was directed at, from my fb:

J****** S****** P***** MIA is vile. lies! I feel violated.
7 minutes ago · Comment · Like

J****** S****** P*****
but, you know, I still like her music.
6 minutes ago

goodnight, guys

peace

who's 'mad' at mia? i don't even know mia! saw the 'controversy', saw the funny hirschberg response, saw the pharrell quote, laffed, glanced at ilx, saw the groupie slurping here, commenced rolling eyes. totally able to deal w/ remarkably stupid professional provocateurs and their sycophants w/out getting emotional or heavily invested: paul broun is my congressman.

wait mia's groupies are getting slurped???

weve missed balls

i'm finding it harder to be a gentleman everyday

J****** S****** P***** MIA is vile. lies! I feel violated.
7 minutes ago · Comment · Like

J****** S****** P*****
but, you know, I still like her music.
6 minutes ago

― call all destroyer, Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

who's that? jessa saraca parker?

i think it's worth considering her in the contexts of western pop music and the war in sri lanka. pop music - is there any other pop star right now who makes politics, however muddled, one of the central features of their music? much less radical politics? not that i know of. i don't listen to a ton of top 40 stuff though, so maybe i'm wrong -- to me it's refreshing.

after all does anyone who is active in the conflict in sri lanka (in any of the political camps), or who writes about it from there or abroad, argue that mia is actually a factor to be weighed seriously? the guy quoted in the nyt saying she helped put the tigers on the map - uh, right. whose map again? some western hipsters? having one tiny anti-sri lankan military voice in the morass of war on terror rhetoric that predominates media coverage of the conflict here isn't a problem for me (speaking from the US anyway). she's also continually stated she doesn't even support the tigers. the most damning political criticisms from hirschberg are that she put tigers on her arular art and that she isn't a pacifist.

tl;dr - xp aerosmith otm

She chose the olive bread.

having one tiny anti-sri lankan military voice in the morass of war on terror rhetoric that predominates media coverage of the conflict here isn't a problem for me (speaking from the US anyway).

glad its not a problem for you but it seems to be a problem for the guy who is actually working on sri lankan issues!

Did you find that quote terribly credible?

I mean he seems annoyed that she's not doing anything particularly constructive, that's fine. . . but the argument that she's actually making things worse seems suspect to say the least.

plus the opinion of one person you certainly don't know as quoted by another person you probably don't know in an obvious attempt to make somebody else look bad...

I don't care. Misguided or not I miss politics in music.