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I know it's good for lolz to discuss her life but I still don't know what makes her any more a liar and scamp than any other ambitious rock artiste.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

the olive bread.

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 May 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

dude, stop: I haven't had dinner.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

has gaga responded to any of these jabs? would love to see the beef escalate.

Disagree. I hope Gaga has more class than that.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 27 May 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

does she take her fries with truffle oil then?

like a guttenberg, strong with your mane (another al3x), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

my god i really want to try that now

plax (ico), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Disagree. I hope Gaga has more class than that.

lol more like Gaga's probably smart enough to know that not responding will make her look like the bigger star/better person and increase her cachet

emotionally abusive jowls (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

your move, gaga. your move.

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Gaga won't bite, she's had MONTHS and hasn't responded to Grace Jones beef, so...

JD, not my experience as such - I was away at college when it happened - but anyone who'd fuck over Lori B is a creep for realz.

when the fertilizer hits the ventilator (suzy), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

move gaga move

like a guttenberg, strong with your mane (another al3x), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

assuming gagalang jokes have been made already

like a guttenberg, strong with your mane (another al3x), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i would think that the fact that she actually sells some records would be the thing that makes gaga the bigger star but what do i know

CUSE EX MACHINA (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @CourtneyLoveUK is now all "got ur back sister" on the Twitters

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

how mean is the actual nyt piece?

django weingart (samosa gibreel), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i was trying to make some kinda jethro tull gagalung joke then i was all wtf am i doing w.my life

m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

how mean is the actual nyt piece?

it's really kind of subtly mean - Joan Didion would have written the definitive dismissal around the same issues I think but this one isn't so confident

she just kinda sits back and waits for maya to contradict herself. it is mean, no doubt.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Didion is subtler about balancing disdain and admiration.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know if this NYT piece is quite in control of its effects.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

to the extent that we can even conceive of an ink-stained wretch as "mean" to a billionaire-by-marriage international pop star, i suppose the piece has done its job

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

MIA would never call a 13 year old on the ellen show and tell him to follow his dreams... mores the pity...

she has all this press to actually get across a legimate pov of tamil and just come up looking like hipster lolzzz and i have met 20 something girls with fringes who consider her their RATM.

+ that pic up there of the fries etc is how her new tracks makes me feel.

kumar the bavarian, Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost like, "meanness" requires a certain power imbalance to be perceived as such

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

she has all this press to actually get across a legimate pov of tamil

is this her obligation? Serious question. I guess we're entering much-trod terrain here: how coherently do we expect artists to discuss politics when most of them just exploit?

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

if the objective of the piece is to signal to the world outside of ILX that This Is Not A Serious Person, i'd take ILX discussion of "meanness" as an index of its effectiveness in that project

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

i just re-read the courtney love piece, and this seems meaner than that.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

except that had accusations of actual harmful shit

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 May 2010 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Didion is subtler about balancing disdain and admiration.

I would sub "awe" for admiration, but yeah - Didion gives respect to those qualities which she could not begin to imagine in herself; it is one of her most towering strengths as a writer; a monster, for her, is that which she understands but is only willing to judge with reservations most of the time

and yeah obv as a stylist there is nobody living within a hundred yards of Didion

aerosmith, I miss you.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 May 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^real talk re: Didion

emotionally abusive jowls (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 May 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link

bringing up Didion is sorta not fair to other writers

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 28 May 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

alfred I miss you too - mixed a delightful gin drink tonight and thought "man, Lord Sotosyn would appreciate this, I bet"

i would think that the fact that she actually sells some records would be the thing that makes gaga the bigger star but what do i know

Real talk.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 28 May 2010 00:32 (thirteen years ago) link

And make her more, shall we say, circumspect.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 May 2010 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Naw dude, she doesn't have a cock, didn't you hear.

kkvgz, Friday, 28 May 2010 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

it's pretty obvious from Shakey's post that he meant more Gaga not responding makes her look more dignified and not that he actually thinks there's a question of who's the bigger star, but y'know why get in the way of any excuse for a zing

Christina NAGLera (some dude), Friday, 28 May 2010 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I think we all know what M.I.A. has to do now (A: do an interview with John Mayer)

Cunga, Friday, 28 May 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

She's turning 35 years old in a month, FWIW.

This article is hilarious, and depressing. But M.I.A. has *always* been full of shit and shitty contradictions - and with the really basic stuff ("Kate Moss in ads for mascara / Don't sell out to be product pushers!" --> M.I.A. is the new face of Marc Jacobs within weeks!). None of this should be particularly surprising.

Oh, and Costa Gavras' son seems like a champ, too.

Becky Facelift, Friday, 28 May 2010 01:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I basically like MIA's music, but yeahhhhh, the fact that she acts literally half her age is pretty damning

iatee, Friday, 28 May 2010 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, big difference between madonna's 'act like I'm a hot 24 year old even though I'm 79' and 'act like I'm a bratty 18 year old even though I'm 35'

iatee, Friday, 28 May 2010 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess "act like I've got hot 23-year-old body tone when I'm 50" is more repellent to my sense of dignity than a youngish woman whose politics and "worldview" are as disorderly as everyone else's.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 May 2010 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link

eh I'm fine w/ her shitty politics (what musician has good politics? uh...)

iatee, Friday, 28 May 2010 01:34 (thirteen years ago) link

alfred otm

at least I can look at a pic of m.i.a. without recoiling in horror

i don't care if big daddy kane signed your mommas tits (The Reverend), Friday, 28 May 2010 01:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Ted Nugent is pretty consistent iirc xpost

Cunga, Friday, 28 May 2010 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

she has all this press to actually get across a legimate pov of tamil

is this her obligation? Serious question. I guess we're entering much-trod terrain here: how coherently do we expect artists to discuss politics when most of them just exploit?

― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:39 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this would totally be a cogent argument if she didn't deliberately and repeatedly make it a huge part of her image to be explaining her home country's issues to the western world. i mean you can shrug 'yo musicians are not usually v nuanced re: politics' but she's been depicted, by herself and the media, as a little more engaged and knowledgeable than your average bono wannabe.

Christina NAGLera (some dude), Friday, 28 May 2010 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link

But that's the media's fault. What makes her music compelling to me is the degree to which she's able to marry agitprop to "1999." This will inevitably produce some uncomfortable, embarrassing moments.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 May 2010 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link

huh? why is it the media's fault?

call all destroyer, Friday, 28 May 2010 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link

But that's the media's fault.

blaming the press for her ridiculousness is sort of a cop-out

Cunga, Friday, 28 May 2010 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, sorry, mayas image is as much her fault as it is the medias

max, Friday, 28 May 2010 01:53 (thirteen years ago) link


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