MIA

so shakey is your point that this isn't even worth discussing because she's "pop" iyo?

I think it isn't worth talking about because everyone who cares has already made up their mind one way or the other and is violently disdainful of the people who disagree with them.

In a lot of ways, she has succeeded admirably in being a reflection of 2K politics.

I think talking about whether or not she's "authentic" is a total waste of time, as it is with any artist.

xp

i guess i have more issues with her being 32 & acting like she's 19 than her trumping up her dad's terrorist past

I thought part of the point of being an artist was that you didn't have to grow up.

it would be a lot less fun to poke holes in her image if she didnt come across as such an unpleasant person

that quietus hit piece on florence and the machine seemed so cheap because florence came across as basically a nice lady, if a little simple

this just seems like two unpleasant people spent some time together and the unpleasant person who is the writer got the last word

actually i dont know that lynn herschberg is an unpleasant person

she certainly hold musicians to high standards of political sophistication though

lynn hirschberg sounds awesome imo, would definitely love to sip martinis w/ lynn as long as she's not like writing a piece abt how i'm a massive asshole w/ bad table manners

careful what bread u choose

jesus, i hope she never writes a story about me -- because i AM a massive asshole w/ bad table manners

ill take the olive, but i'll be really ironic and knowing abt it, she'd be into that i think

i tend to like snipey bitchy girls more than i like strident contrarian girls so

man, if my bread basket habits were documented you guys would be aghast.

lots of scratching?

it would be a lot less fun to poke holes in her image if she didnt come across as such an unpleasant person

― max, Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:28 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is very obv otm

basically this piece is not for us, it's more like a heads-up for anyone who wasn't just enjoying her music but also taking her seriously.

somehow I doubt that anyone who takes M.I.A. seriously is going to be dissuaded from doing so by the New York Times

who are these people that take MIA "seriously" and what does it mean to do so

I mean I guess I do but that doesn't mean I take her political sloganeering at face value

i could see this piece subconsciously affecting our lesser critics to not try so hard to find MIA to be a genius, esp if the new album is difficult/crap. none of it is really news, but the rising sentiment of MIA ISN'T ALL THAT is being dignified by the grey lady here.

basically this piece is not for us, it's more like a heads-up for anyone who wasn't just enjoying her music but also taking her seriously.

ILM most certainly takes MIA seriously -- much more so than the fans, say, who've picked up on "Paper Planes" on the radio, or found out about her from that Slumdog song, or her Grammy performance.

Whereas, on ILM we trade off discussions in a 1,000+ post thread about MIA.

I'm mia

hope all that truffle oil is consolation for ur artistic bankruptcy

galang galang

OK, I am just catching up with this thread and responding to stuff from three weeks ago, but whatever: The first time I heard "Paper Planes" back in '07, I immediately noticed the "Rump Shaker" reference. It's pretty obvious! Never heard "Straight to Hell" before, so I didn't realize there was a Clash sample until months later.

(.)(.)

fwiw Hirschberg's Courtney piece really holds up (and I say that as an acknowledged Courtney stan)

don't think I ever read that... was that the one where she was smoking while pregnant or something

Though if you guys like "Straight to Hell" interpolations, here ya go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9hXexd6A-Q

(Comes in at 2:10.)

xpost smoking and snorting and all sorts of whatnot. but going back now it's a really sort of extraordinary snapshot and eerily predictive -- not just of Krut's martyrdom, which was inevitable, but of, like, Courtney's Twitter account and Celebrity Skin.

Court's rap on the Minneapolis scene circa 1987 is lulz: "I just couldn't take it anywhere else [than LA]," she explains. "Minneapolis was so fucking un-pretentious. Everyone has a flannel collection and is in a band named after a welding instrument."

^^^Court skipped Mpls because she promoted a fake Butthole Surfers concert and left town with all the cash the day before it was supposed to happen.

I'm wondering if Maya recorded the conversation she had with Lynn Hirschberg (something an interview subject will do to be all like 'you better not misquote' sometimes). But Hirschberg missed the opportunity to point out that Maya's lived off the largesse of rich hipsters for YEARS, which every third person in London could tell you.

Fuck gold, she's a platinum digger

Who else has Hirschberg eaten fries with?
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/05/who_else_has_lynn_hirschberg_t.html

lololol

xxxpost suzy afaik that's one story.

Meaning? Am sure there are many, many more - and my sources for this particular story are unimpeachable BTW.

shakey otm throughout thread. i'm halfway through the hirschberg piece and, whatever nyt smugness she drips aside, "her child-of-Godard mix of politics, paranoia and pop" is a pretty good argument for why mia is at least as interesting as any other pop star out there now. blaming her in any way for the general low level of understanding of things like the sri lanka conflict is a bit naive, isn't it? and she has openly set the record straight on her father for a while now, iirc.

has gaga responded to any of these jabs? would love to see the beef escalate.

suzy <3 you forever but your sources are for one story and your experience however varied is still only one person's experience ok

I know it's good for lolz to discuss her life but I still don't know what makes her any more a liar and scamp than any other ambitious rock artiste.

the olive bread.

dude, stop: I haven't had dinner.

has gaga responded to any of these jabs? would love to see the beef escalate.

Disagree. I hope Gaga has more class than that.

does she take her fries with truffle oil then?

my god i really want to try that now

Disagree. I hope Gaga has more class than that.

lol more like Gaga's probably smart enough to know that not responding will make her look like the bigger star/better person and increase her cachet

your move, gaga. your move.

Gaga won't bite, she's had MONTHS and hasn't responded to Grace Jones beef, so...

JD, not my experience as such - I was away at college when it happened - but anyone who'd fuck over Lori B is a creep for realz.